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Chugging tea Capitalism Needs Chill

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u/webdog77 4h ago

They did the same things to us Aussies too. It was headlines about 3 months ago here.

u/vixxienz 3h ago

there was pressure on Pharmac here also ( new zealand)

u/deep8787 2h ago

I hope you guys replied appropriately :D

u/SeengignPaipes 2h ago

Well it either went one of two ways, either my government bent over and got the shaft from the US like always or we told them to go take a long jump off a short pier.

u/deep8787 2h ago

Tbh, I was hoping more for something along the lines of "fuck off you cunt" lol

u/webdog77 2h ago

I’m not sure that they said that, but could you imagine the community backlash if our medicines all of sudden jumped significantly because the Orange Pedo said we had to…

u/Puzzleheaded_Ad8032 1h ago

I think these American companies don't realize that populations of countries with options, aren't cucked like Americans.

u/webdog77 1h ago

Yeah it must piss them off to be putting pressure on the Orange one to do something about it.

u/scootah 43m ago

Cucking is a perfectly respectable kink. ‘Murica wishes whatever the fuck is going on with MAGA and the Epstein files was just some nice cuckoldry.

u/Northinnh 58m ago

People blame trump for everything, the real facts are this is a 2 party blame, don't you remember Obama care (a Democrat) that has skyrocketed insurance costs, driven up deductibles. Let's put blame where it belongs Insurance, drug,medical industry that doesn't want change their making to much $

u/webdog77 54m ago

Trump is the one putting pressure on our governments to increase our cost of medicines- Obama never did that.

u/JustStraightUpTired 8m ago

don't you remember Obama care (a Democrat) that has skyrocketed insurance costs

That's because this is a great case of corporate greed, not government push for that greed. The big problem was and still is that republicans are hell bent on preventing making actual universal healthcare a thing or even regulating price gouging by the insurance companies. All while they are willing to raise premiums when regulation is passed for them, when it's passed against them and when no regulation is passed at all.

Basically, you are blaming one of the billion excuses these companies have used for increases in premiums, when in reality they also raised premiums at every other possible opportunity. You are blaming a tape fix not working perfectly, when it's opposition is what prevented any actual regulation from being passed and has been since forever.

People blame trump for everything

In this case, they should. Trump was pushing a 100% tariff on pharmaceuticals imported to the US to pressure companies to move drug manufacturing to the US from other countries. This is all after the US pharmaceutical industry has claimed that Australia's PBS is losing them billions of dollars in sales.

If you don't think those are connected, you could be right, Trump is probably incompetent enough to not realize how he is affecting US trade partners in order to raise pharma profits while making medicine more expensive over all, only benefitting the big pharma. On the other hand, literally only the rich people benefit from it, while Obamacare, which you used as a comparison, actively still helps a lot of people. Obamacare isn't perfect, far from it, but whatever fuck Trump is doing is just flat out bad, unless you are the rare few benefitting from the suffering of the poor.

u/teelolws 1h ago

For New Zealand we'd say something more like "Yeah, Nah"

u/LogiCsmxp 1h ago

Be munted if you didn't.

u/qwerty145454 17m ago

Nah, we have big pharma executives as Ministers in our current government, specifically overseeing Pharmac.

It's too popular to kill outright, so they've been undermining it by changing policy to force it to answer to "patients rights groups". Those groups are just astroturfing groups funded by pharmaceutical companies to undermine Pharmac's capacity to objectively assess and bargain with Pharma.

u/Low-Gift-8287 22m ago

Imagine being mad that people can afford medicine without going bankrupt. Capitalism really needs to chill.

u/Fear023 2h ago

Worst part is that US companies are pulling fucking cancer drugs (complete exit from our market) because they don't want to sell it at a cheap price anymore. Despite selling it and making money for decades.

u/relevantwishofverse 1h ago

Just ignore their patents. Let American companies exploit their own apathetic populace. It would be beyond stupid and treasonous for any country to hurt the healthcare of their citizens so American terrorists can have even more money.

Agreeing to their demands just means they'll be back repeatedly to keep increasing the prices since profits are more important than society to these mentally ill sociopaths that can never have enough.

u/ghigoli 1h ago

honestly do it. just remake the patents in your country and sell them to American markets. they wanna fuck around and find out? let them.

u/Fear023 21m ago

At the very least, the Aus government stood their ground and wouldn't accept the ridiculous inflated price they wanted to charge.

The competitor's drug got fast tracked and put on our pharmaceutical benefits scheme, basically makes it free for patients.

u/Low-Gift-8287 22m ago

Healthcare should keep people alive, not keep them financially struggling for the rest of their lives.

u/Crypt33x 1h ago

Next news: "Aldi makes food a little too affordable in the US"

"Please raise prices =("

u/JimboTCB 1h ago

"Also can you make more of your food give people explosive diarrhea, your hygiene standards are making us look bad"

u/Bear1375 2h ago

Did it work ?

u/Low-Gift-8287 21m ago

If affordable medicine is a problem for the market, maybe the market is the problem.

u/dirtydigs74 24m ago

It's not over by any means. He's put a 100% tariff on Australian pharmaceuticals. The issue is that the government negotiates a price with drug companies directly. If they lower the price sufficiently, it goes on the PBS, and is subsidized by the tax payer, for the tax payer. If the price can't be negotiated low enough, it can still be sold here, it just won't go on the PBS.

Apparently, the drug companies aren't making enough from the drugs that go on the PBS to trickle it down to US citizens. Supposedly, they would pass on the extra profits to the US domestic market by lowering their prices in the US. And if you believe that, I've got a bridge to sell you.

u/scootah 46m ago

Until ‘Murica does something about removing their MAGAt infestation, I can’t imagine why we’d give a shit about their opinion about literally anything.

u/DexM23 25m ago

This is from the same time

u/StepAlarmed20 19m ago

Wasn't that trump's strategy to lower prices by 600% for USAmericans, by forcing other countries to raise their domestic prices?