Chicago has had some interesting history since civil rights movements, a lot of people in the area look at people like Farrakhan as an almost parental figure . NOI headquarters near where he grew up.
Same but with Jay Electronica, I listened to his whole discography (1 studio album, 1 mixtape) some time ago, by the end of it I had a feeling that he's not particularly neutral about Jewish people
yea, that’s been well-known; just saying it’s pertinent context that jay elec called himself jaydolf spitler specifically in an appearance on a hitler wears hermes tape & not as an isolated hitler shoutout in his own music lol .
I also saw it a little as like a reference to one of his own bars:
“They call me Jay Electronica—fuck that
Call me Jay Elec-Hanukkah, Jay Elec-Yarmulke
Jay Elect-Ramadan, Muhammad as-salaam-alaikum
RasoulAllah Subhanahu wa ta'ala through your monitor”
Now you made me think if this whole story happened because he hates Jews or was it just a coincidence, imagine him being like "Damn, them k*kes sure as hell annoy me, I probably should ruin a marriage of one"
He's a sponger a grifter and Alchoholic on some fake spiritual tip that gets him laid with them new age wealthy white chicks who want to act like they don't have money
He didn’t backtrack shit. Show me the interview where he backtracked, he never did. You have to interpret the art, that’s where we see it’s from his cousins perspective. The art tells us his cousin Carl Duckworth, a black Israelite, was offering Kendrick a view on black and minority identity that was based in victimhood. This is emphasized in the voicemail snippet off the track where Carl quotes Deuteronomy and talks about minority people being gods chosen people, doomed to suffer. Damn is an album about false prophecies and faux philosophies and Kendrick explores the problematic nature of one of these, black israelitism, with that song yah.
u/JGar453diehard Swans fan since their debut in 2014 🦢Aug 15 '25edited Aug 15 '25
This is very clear when you compare FEAR to DUCKWORTH.
The message of FEAR, at least as Carl describes it, is that you need to internalize the mentality of damnation and punishment. There's nothing you can do to change your fate.
But the basic message of DUCKWORTH is karma. Good actions have good consequences, bad actions have bad consequences, your material conditions are all under your control. Considering this is the finale of the normal version of the album (as opposed to the reversed version where he gets shot), Kendrick seems to genuinely believe that Top Dawg rejecting the kind of cynical attitude Carl has in FEAR and not killing his dad stopped him from going down a dark path in life.
And like half of FEAR is intergenerational trauma, his mom is gonna beat his ass. His uncle is telling it to him verbally but it's been instilled in him by adults his whole life. But intergenerational trauma is the kind of thing he rejected on Mr. Morale — which came later ofc but you'd have to assume he's been against it for a while.
It's always interesting that people can see The Art of Peer Pressure or How Much A Dollar Cost as specific moments of time but every song on DAMN is somehow Kendrick's current opinion just because he didn't present the album as an overt narrative.
You're only getting downvoted cause this the circle jerk subreddit, we need more people taking a Pulitzer Prize winner seriously and understanding there's no one way to represent a scene, I think there's whole artists that solely perform from a secondary perspective, you're not supposed to take everything they say as factual it's supposed to be something that makes you think and question what you know about it
This specific comment thread was a serious discussion so I figured I’d offer a serious reply. I’m actually getting downvoted for the reason you’re illustrating: people aren’t willing to take Kendrick’s work as seriously as it should be taken. Whether that’s out of convenience cuz he may have obliterated an artist they enjoy, or whether it’s a person with their own victimhood complex who wants to believe everyone is scandalized, nobody seems willing to meet Kendrick’s work on a respectful and considerate level in this climate. In academic spaces, people who study works of a specific author are considered scholars, with an authority on the subject—in music discourse you’re considered a dick rider who shouldn’t be trusted. The impression of rationality that internet music fans seem to have is to never really like anything at all, to always be ready to hate on something, to care very deeply about sales and audience over the personal matter of an artwork, and to never express an opinion outside of the reactionary nature. Kendrick in part satirized this nature during the beef and gave haters a taste of their own medicine.
There’s a big Black Israelite community in Dimona Israel. They originate from the OG group from the 70’s, I think back then it wasn’t hateful at all towards Jews just thought they were descendants of a long lost tribe and part of the Jewish diaspora. I guess the extremism evolved later on in some circles.
Me too. Sometimes i color myself in with sharpie while listening to DAMN. just to get a taste of what K. Dotty and his people go through, to further my understanding of his genius.
Oh fuck what miserable people. They dress in purple and set up around my neighborhood sometimes
What's funny is that they switch up depending on season. I'm light Brown during the cooler months and they won't talk to me. I'm BROWN BROWN during the summer and they wanna know what's up with me
On either occasion I move along and their guy just starts yelling scripture out of a book
I'm a jew and I decided to debate them one time when they were spewing their bs out in public, and omg, they're literally the stupidest people alive, and all they were doing was cherrypicking bs from the Bible to make their insane views make sense
I started interacting with them bc I was walking with my friends, who are all Hispanics, and they asked my friends, "Do they believe in god?" And a couple of my friends said yes then they started to say how Native Americans, Hispanics, and Blacks are the true Jews and how white jews are the devil and are from the synagogue of Satan and how we stole the whole idea of being a jew and how white jews are khazars who converted to Judaism. Then I interjected by saying that they're talking about me bc I'm an ashkenazi jew and mizrahi jew but my skin is predominantly white. They started to ask me what I'm tribe I'm from, and I stated that I'm from the mizrahi and ashkenazi tribes and I started to back up my facts by obviously stating stuff that destroyed their logic and the way they think. After I stated my facts, they started to scream bible verses loudly to drown out my voice, and at the point I knew I "won" the conversation and just walked away and as I walking away they started to shout out antisemitic tropes. They're fucking idiots in my honest opinion
Ashkenazi Jews primarily trace their lineage back to the tribes of Judah, Benjamin, and Levi. While some may have ancestral ties to other Israelite tribes, these three are most commonly associated with the origins of the Ashkenazi Jewish community, particularly through their presence in the Southern Kingdom of Judah.
No thats what jews in general means. Thats what word "jew" comes from. Cuz the biggest surviving tribe by far after the exile that can still verifiably be traced to the israelites as a whole was Judah, with a sprinkling of Levi because they were interspersed between all the tribes and Benjamin simply due to chance same as Judah. Ashkenazi has nothing to do with that origin, as it is applicable to all known jews today. Rather it refers to the subsect of jews who wound up in Europe after the exile from Israel. Mizrahi also shares the same Tribal origin, but instead of Europe they are generally from the middle east. And Beta Israelis are jews from africa (specifically almost always Ethiopia). There are probably a few other groups im missing but thats what i can list off the top of my head.
People love to call Drake soft or sensitive but this freestyle further proves that Drake is the demonic goon employing thug that Tupac and Biggie were thought of. If the ominous drill beat didn’t spell it out, Drake is one of the realest threats in the rap game and can get anyone killed if he wishes. Kanye said it himself about Drake in 2018, “He running around like he pac”, that's because Drake is the new modern day Pac. He's really running around with a strap on his hip, has killer goons on command, is affiliated with the mafia, and has bodyguards that that looks like they eat nails in a bowl of blood. He had Kanye fearing for his dear life and kids lives in 2018 when the beef was popping. Drake really is the demon of Calabasas and Hollywood. We're looking at a real life Godfather Michael Corleone type figure, a gang affiliated Michael Jackson tier pop-star but on a much grander scale than MJ ever was. There’s so many stories of Drake's getting rude yutes clapped up or performing mob boss gestures like throat slices, clapping his hands, etc. Drake dines at mafia style restaurants like The Nice Guy/Delilah in Hollywod. And he has enough power to bully superstar celebrities like Tory and Kanye around and make them think twice about their actions. This nigga Don Corleone runs every corner and inch of Canada and claimed it as his own. For the first time in forever we’re looking at an invincible GOAT who really lives the stories.
He for sure has ties to the movement (very weak from what is known but still there) but I seriously doubt he’s actually hateful towards Jewish people.
Only discrimination I want from this mf is towards these new racist ass fans that keep telling me to “stop putting politics in rap”. I’m fucking on to you, you fuckers. I’m going to get you.
Kendrick Lamar has been very careful about not taking a position on anything that powerful ppl would view as controversial while somehow still being hailed by some of his fans as conscious or political. I don’t get it.
You can say people hate J's all day, and you get thousands of likes. Say the opposite and you're flagged for antisemitism and the post gets locked to preserve civility.
Kendrick doesn't know who he is hence the need for therapy first he was a black hippie , then he wasn't black no more call him Negus then he's a Hebrew Israelite then he's jesus Christ with a diamond Crown of thorns now he's Drakes therapist .
Some believe Democrats hate Republicans. Is it hate? Or is it an acknowledgment of fundamental differences and a hatred for the attempts to create and promote misinformation? Not a hatred of PEOPLE. It’s easy for someone who doesn’t know, or share your belief to misinterpret your stance as “hate”. Way too easy. ✊🏾
On one of the rap diss tracks to Drake, he said Drakes entourage “got you in them”, but it literally sounds like “got jew in them” and Drake is Jewish.
Pretty blatant double entendre, commented it on genius.com, and my analysis got buried in downvotes.
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u/petahthehorseisheah Aug 14 '25
And I can't prove the same for Ye. I just couldn't find out why he gives off a hates-the-jews vibe.