r/Hiphopcirclejerk Aug 14 '25

Communicated to me by the sprirt of Eazy E When you know Kendrick Lamar is a Hebrew Israelite that hates Jew$, but you just can’t prove it…

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u/robonick360 Aug 14 '25

He didn’t backtrack shit. Show me the interview where he backtracked, he never did. You have to interpret the art, that’s where we see it’s from his cousins perspective. The art tells us his cousin Carl Duckworth, a black Israelite, was offering Kendrick a view on black and minority identity that was based in victimhood. This is emphasized in the voicemail snippet off the track where Carl quotes Deuteronomy and talks about minority people being gods chosen people, doomed to suffer. Damn is an album about false prophecies and faux philosophies and Kendrick explores the problematic nature of one of these, black israelitism, with that song yah.

u/TheJackal927 Aug 14 '25

Doesn't he have a song where he sings from the POV of a black woman prostitute? Ain't no one saying Kendrick is secretly trans lmfao

u/Jalon315 Aug 14 '25

"And Imma need that forty dollars even if i got to fuck, suck and swallow, my titties bounce on the cadence of his tinklin keys"

u/frankoceansheadband red rose 🌹 white ceiling Aug 14 '25

Nah, that was definitely from his perspective

u/v_tortilla Aug 15 '25

I had $40 , you’re telling me I had a chance

u/eyesotope86 Aug 14 '25

Kentits Lamar

u/Pop_Joe Aug 15 '25

No way that’s a real line…..

u/woooshbait123 Aug 17 '25

listen to sing about me, i’m dying of thirst

u/JGar453 diehard Swans fan since their debut in 2014 🦢 Aug 15 '25 edited Aug 15 '25

This is very clear when you compare FEAR to DUCKWORTH.

The message of FEAR, at least as Carl describes it, is that you need to internalize the mentality of damnation and punishment. There's nothing you can do to change your fate.

But the basic message of DUCKWORTH is karma. Good actions have good consequences, bad actions have bad consequences, your material conditions are all under your control. Considering this is the finale of the normal version of the album (as opposed to the reversed version where he gets shot), Kendrick seems to genuinely believe that Top Dawg rejecting the kind of cynical attitude Carl has in FEAR and not killing his dad stopped him from going down a dark path in life.

And like half of FEAR is intergenerational trauma, his mom is gonna beat his ass. His uncle is telling it to him verbally but it's been instilled in him by adults his whole life. But intergenerational trauma is the kind of thing he rejected on Mr. Morale — which came later ofc but you'd have to assume he's been against it for a while.

It's always interesting that people can see The Art of Peer Pressure or How Much A Dollar Cost as specific moments of time but every song on DAMN is somehow Kendrick's current opinion just because he didn't present the album as an overt narrative.

u/randobrando990 Aug 14 '25

You're only getting downvoted cause this the circle jerk subreddit, we need more people taking a Pulitzer Prize winner seriously and understanding there's no one way to represent a scene, I think there's whole artists that solely perform from a secondary perspective, you're not supposed to take everything they say as factual it's supposed to be something that makes you think and question what you know about it

u/robonick360 Aug 14 '25

This specific comment thread was a serious discussion so I figured I’d offer a serious reply. I’m actually getting downvoted for the reason you’re illustrating: people aren’t willing to take Kendrick’s work as seriously as it should be taken. Whether that’s out of convenience cuz he may have obliterated an artist they enjoy, or whether it’s a person with their own victimhood complex who wants to believe everyone is scandalized, nobody seems willing to meet Kendrick’s work on a respectful and considerate level in this climate. In academic spaces, people who study works of a specific author are considered scholars, with an authority on the subject—in music discourse you’re considered a dick rider who shouldn’t be trusted. The impression of rationality that internet music fans seem to have is to never really like anything at all, to always be ready to hate on something, to care very deeply about sales and audience over the personal matter of an artwork, and to never express an opinion outside of the reactionary nature. Kendrick in part satirized this nature during the beef and gave haters a taste of their own medicine.

u/CryoAB Aug 16 '25

Is he still working in the interview where he says he is one?

u/nayrad Aug 21 '25

I actually have proof Kendrick is a Hebrew Israelite 🤭 lmk if you’re interested. Thought about it then remembered this thread

u/All-696969 Aug 14 '25

Whitoid spotted

u/CryoAB Aug 16 '25

Crazy. Because he has an interview where he says he's a black israelite.

u/robonick360 Aug 16 '25

Only thing I could find about this was in Rolling Stone:

Lamar said he wanted to amplify his Hebrew Israelite cousin's views on the album, and let listeners make of it what they will. "I was taking his perspective on the world and life as a people," Lamar said, "and putting it to where people can listen to it and make their own perspective from it."

His cousin Carl’s thoughts on blacks being a cursed people did seem to resonate with him, but he treats it pretty obviously as a curiosity and not as a lifestyle he’s willing to lead or personally endorse.