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u/womanwithoutborders 3d ago
Completely unsurprising. I work in an oncology clinic and UHC denies virtually every single solitary PET scan, and we have to do labor-intensive peer-to-peers every time. There is one patient with a horrible iodine contrast allergy who can’t have CT scans, UHC denies on the basis that she can just get a CT instead. They’re monsters.
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u/Cobrastrikenana 3d ago
“I don’t want to pay for someone else’s healthcare.” THATS WHAT INSURANCE IS!
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u/DanteChurch 2d ago
The amount of people who don't comprehend this is absurd. At the same time everyone understands adding a middle man to business increases price. Then refuse to recognize insurance is that middle man. If you kept everything the same but government was in control as a service like USPS the price would plummet. It doesn't even have to be universal healthcare, just cutting out the middle man.
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u/Oxytokin 2d ago
The dipshits constantly try to privatize the USPS as well, as if they have never dealt with the efficient and unimpeachable service provided by FedEx and UPS (/s just in case).
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u/KatieTSO 23h ago
UPS beats FedEx at least, since they're union. But it's still not that much better.
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u/alliedeluxe 2d ago
They profit off those denials. So many people die, get sicker, get injured, lose jobs because of this system...it's legalized murder and torture for profit.
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u/Any-Rabbit8099 2d ago edited 1d ago
Are we serious with this shit. We are such a nation of absolute clowns 🤡!
Fuck my BOOMER cuckold parents for going along with shit in the first place and yep totally okay my kid goes through it to. What a bunch fucking morons.
Also, I'm done thanking vets for service. Don't get me wrong , I'm all for better benefits better services for them. But Please, tell me anything good our country has done with our military after 1945. Please explain how this place is so much better and safer now. $6 Billion profit for a company that kills more Americans than 9/11 or them damn ole "mOsLim TeRrOiSt's," ever could.
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u/Oxytokin 2d ago
I prefer to refer to it as the "medical-industrial complex" because there is hardly care in this system.
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u/TraumaLlama1111 2d ago
Not to mention these insurance companies deny a lot more than just pre-auths. They deny actual claims for services that are supposed to be covered because their “internal review board” came up with some fake ahh reason to deny it.
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u/sweergirl86204 8h ago
This isn't Disney channel, you can say "ass"
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u/TraumaLlama1111 8h ago
What an odd thing to say. Furthermore, that you assume I didn’t curse for your benefit or anyone else’s here. I simply do not like to curse and as such, I will communicate in whatever way I so choose, irrespective of your opinion. Have a nice night.
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u/ttystikk 2d ago
United Healthcare's record stands in good company- with Treblinka, Dachau and Auschwitz.
Just run the numbers.
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u/Fairie-Fae 2d ago
$6.2 Billion in one QUARTER. That is just 3 months!! We are so completely f*cked as a country.
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u/adkio 2d ago
Ok so let's take a look at the eu healthcare system:
They refused to schedule my grandpas surgery, because the average waiting time for it was 7-10 years, and her condition probably wouldn't let her survive that long. Free universal healthcare eh?
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u/Cobrastrikenana 2d ago
How many Americans do you think have died from a disease that could’ve been stopped if they could’ve afforded healthcare? Love your anecdote but statistically speaking universal healthcare saves lives.
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u/timubce 2d ago
How many people in your country die from rationing their insulin?
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u/adkio 2d ago
Ok none. You got me there.
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u/timubce 2d ago
The truth of it is, if you have money, healthcare is accessible in any country in a timely manner. You at least have some semblance of a safety net. A lot of people in the states are one medical emergency away from going bankrupt. Almost 67% of all bankruptcies list medical debt as the primary factor.
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u/tfn197 2d ago
You have to be more specific. What was the country, condition, etc.
1) in many 1st world countries waiting times heavily depend on urgency rather than money. So if it is critical, waiting time is 30 minutes for a surgery. If it is inconvenient it can take up to 1-2 years
2) some surgeries have negative consequences as well. Are you sure it wasn't cancelled because the downsides were bigger than the benefits?
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u/fromkentucky 2d ago
If you had been in America he would have still died, but you would be facing $30,000 worth of medical bills.
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u/adkio 2d ago
He didn't die. As i mentioned it a previous comment.
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u/psychad 2d ago
I’m assuming you’re in the UK. But regardless, ask your parents how much it cost for your mother to birth you. They will certainly look at you like you’re crazy, because it’s a crazy notion to pay nearly 5k to have a baby.. which I just did. That’s with a government job and health insurance I pay for monthly, and not a particularly complicated birth.
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u/adkio 1d ago
Not in the uk. And also no, child birth isn't free unless you're willing to do it at home with a volunteer nurse. One thing i give you is that C-section (if deemed necessary) is free, and that it will actually be done ON TIME, as, you know, it isn't something you can postpone.
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u/Cobrastrikenana 1d ago
Everything I can find says that the NFZ does cover childbirth. Am I missing something?
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