r/aiwars 2h ago

Meta Do you like the orc vs catgirl thing?

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I posted yesterday asking what the deal with it was and there was quite the spread of opinions about it, so I'm very curious to find out how popular those opinions (as i understand them) are on this sub

fwiw I'm genuinely having fun finding out what's going on. Tried to make options reasonably unbiased but feel free to tell me they're terrible lol

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yes, it's a cute/funny way to show that the overall argument is ultimately very silly. it's just not serious
yes, i think the caricatures have some truth to them, and they do help get points across
yes, ragebaiting is fun
not really, but using it ironically to make fun of ragebaiters is funny. Ragebait ouroboros!
no, it's dumb. Wait, you're telling me some people aren't just trolling? Please say sike
it's dumb but that's what I've come to expect so i don't care

r/aiwars 19h ago

Discussion Thoughts on Ai Replacing CEOs?

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“A group of software engineers who say they were fired by their bosses because of AI are giving their former employers a taste of their own medicine.
With the powers of spite and friendship, they’ve built “OpenExecutive,” an AI system designed to do the work of a CEO, if not the entire c-suite.”

CEOs at top U.S. companies earn an average of 281 times more than a typical worker. If anyone should be replaced to save money, shouldn’t it be the CEOs?

If Ai threatens the job of the Top Executives what could this mean? I personally believe Ai should replace everyone.

https://futurism.com/artificial-intelligence/new-ai-designed-replace-ceos


r/aiwars 2h ago

Discussion A genuine question for both the Pro-AI and Anti-AI sides.

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I'm drawing manually because I like drawing (even if it's shit), and I am managing workflows in ComfyUI and training LoRAs for fun (mostly for experience). I like generating images, but on my local PC (mostly Stable Diffusion). So I have a few questions:

I have two main issues with the arguments I see here, from both the 'Anti-AI' and 'Pro-AI' sides (or however people prefer to generalize each other).

First, to the Anti-AI side: why do people who are against image generation under the slogan of "companies stealing art" still use LLMs like ChatGPT, Gemini, Groq, or Claude? Both text and image models are trained on scraped content. If you are genuinely against image generation for ethical reasons, be consistent and stop using LLMs for the exact same reason.

Second, to the Pro-AI side: why do people call themselves "artists" just for using AI? I can acknowledge complex workflows involving templates, ControlNet, and specific references. But the core 'skill' still lies within the AI model, not the prompter. Just asking an AI to draw something is like being a writer for a manga, but claiming the entire manga as your own work when someone else actually illustrated it.

Of course, these are just my observations, and I'm not trying to force anyone to change. But can people be a bit more reasonable when it comes to arguments here? I keep seeing people cursing at each other without any proper argumentation.

EDIT: What I'm seeing is actually amazing. Many people have very similar views, and I'm going to look a bit more into the "artist" title thing.
And I apologize to anyone who is Anti-AI and doesn't use any AI at all by choice. I know people who call themselves Anti-AI while only opposing image generation, so my post was aimed at that group.


r/aiwars 15h ago

Discussion Does this happen to anyone else?

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I’ve been accused at least three times now over the past year of using AI to draft replies to people in the context of a debate.

I‘ll write out a few paragraphs that take me about 3-4 minutes to write, sometimes longer, and some imbecile will reply that it’s AI generated. I’ve been writing for decades and never really imagined a scenario where elucidating a point beyond a couple sentences would register as being artificially generated to another human being.

It’s a bizarre and somewhat effective way to derail and negate an argument, if that’s the purpose. I have a feeling most of these accusations are in earnest, however.

I know it’s not AI’s fault that some people are so harebrained that they think no one on planet earth could possibly express a complete thought without the use of AI, and maybe it should be taken as a compliment, but goodness. Is this what we have to look forward to?

Is this becoming its own brand of trolling? Strange stuff.


r/aiwars 1d ago

"AI could never"

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So drawn images are still AI generated? These drawings are not 'real' drawings because AI draw them?

gpt6 was given access to the mouse and keyboard to draw them in a traditional digital drawing pad.

So this different from human using mouse and keyboard to draw them in a traditional digital drawing pad?

traditional digital drawing pad

Traditional and digital at the same time? Is there non-traditional digital drawing pad? 🤔


r/aiwars 14h ago

People complaining about AI on reddit is like...

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it's like someone who's vegan for morality reasons

buying coke(indirectly funding cartels that engage in human trafficking) on their iphone (that has cobalt mined by children in it)

like. Anti AI people realize every contribution to reddit is data contributed to AI right?

yeah let's fight AI on reddit guys!!!!! (the site that AI has received a metric shit ton of data from)


r/aiwars 11h ago

Just this once, Pro Ai

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we have bigger fish to fry


r/aiwars 14h ago

WHAT HAPPENS WHEN GREAT DIRECTORS START MAKING AI FILMS?

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Hi all My First post on here.

We're talking a lot about AI in music, but what about the film industry?

I've been watching some AI-generated sci-fi films on YouTube, and they're getting better remarkably quickly.

It got me wondering: what happens when a genuinely great director decides to make an AI film?

No enormous studio budget. Fewer production constraints. The ability to experiment with ideas that might previously have been too expensive to film.

What could someone with decades of directing experience do with these tools if cost stopped being such a major limitation?

Good, bad, a threat to traditional filmmaking — or potentially liberating for some directors?

Interested to hear what people think.


r/aiwars 11h ago

Meme Four Endings for Ai

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r/aiwars 1h ago

is the harassment and downvote mobbing normal?

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these hyper-pro-anti-ai cult groups harbor people who clearly love to sexually harass, spam, and degrade actual artists, even when presented with factual evidence and slop that meets their criteria lol.

i’m convinced it’s full of bots, and we should report accordingly.

where can i get my art valued without getting bashed and mobbed? i mean yo, it even got sexual and spammy, which was nasty.


r/aiwars 2h ago

Meme New AI benchmark

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r/aiwars 6h ago

Legal issues of AI generated image/video

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In real life while using any image/video for commercial purpose you ensure the model appearing in it have signed model release agreement. However, while using AI you don't know if the generated person by AI matches with someone in real life. It may happen you use that image/video for advertisement and someday you receive a notice from someone saying you are using my face without permission.

Let's say I give prompt "create a dating video of Indian young male and female" to AI tool. The prompt is genric having no reference to any individual. The AI creates video showing two persons and you use that for advertisement purpose. These are some questions that I have.

  1. How to ensure the person generated by AI isn't matching with someone in real life?
  2. How do businesses using AI image/video ensure the above?

r/aiwars 3h ago

Posted this a while back and wanted to clear somethings up

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So I posted this a month or so ago complaining about how being have been putting my art through ai to make it fit to there standards. And lots of you seemed to thing I was saying that people couldn’t draw Miku or I was gatekeeping it. That was not my intention and I have no idea how people got to that conclusion. To set the record straight, I do not care about what you do with Miku, it’s not my ip and I know that perfectly well. If you wanna make your own pro ai Miku artwork be my guest. What I take problem with is people putting my art through AI and basically “fixing it” to fit there ideals. What I’m saying is you can make your own ai miku art but please don’t use or “fix” my art to fit your opinion. It’s not rocket science and I’m so so so tired of people thinking otherwise.


r/aiwars 21h ago

Discussion ai is genuinely good but humans cant help abuse it for the wrong reasons

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mostly anti, but for the wrong reasons.
the technology at hand is amazing, and it could impact humanity in a overwhelmingly good way.

gpt6 is insanely good. to be clear, i'm not fond of how this tech was achieved (stomping on data and ignoring any consent when scraping) and of the environmental impacts (hopefully local models can catch up), but the positive implications for learning and empowering creation are amazing.

again, if you can write a coherent prompt, that doesn't make you a skilled individual in whatever scope you're prompting, and neither should you label yourself as one.
we breed cute dogs all the time, we choose the types and let them breed. theres a certain degree of "art" there, in picking the right dogs to create the cutest breeds we have today, but i certainly would give most of the credit to the randomness of nature for creating that creature, just like the credit for the artwork relies in the randomness weights in models. different skills, youre still not creating dogs by stitching them from nothing. you can be the best breeder in the world, but youre still not making dogs out of thin air or from your imagination.
[edited since it came off as biased]
eg. you're not an artist for prompting for a picture as in you're not a chef for putting a frozen pizza in the oven.

personalized learning, animations and info-graphics for digesting information during the day and on demand based on your current goals, rough drafts for small or big projects, ...
of all the amazing things people could showoff demos for, the best use case techbros can come up with is rage baiting fellow humans with skills they themselves admitted can't or won't develop, by posting "artists/3d/cad/... is dead! ai is faster and cheaper" clips.
why? engagement -> ego -> possible monetization -> greed

why does anything good always turn into crap whenever a human is in the equation?
why can't the cool ai bip bup tech make some valuable resources for everyone's gain? without putting them behind a capitalistic paywall, and without putting down the same humans with creative skills that enrich life for all of us? we all like a good song from our favorite artist, but ai can never appreciate a piece of art like we do - emotionally that is.
in the race for wealth accumulation the tool is being used (by people and ceos) for all the wrong reasons, making humans vicious instead of virtuous.

we are all on the same ball of dirt in the middle of space. replacing the next person in the field because we are leveraging the tool for our own gain (ego or greed) is misusing it.

edit: ofc excuse my english, not my main language.


r/aiwars 13h ago

Meme Kinda unrelated to debate buttt I noticed quite the pattern here....

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(3rd is ref)

Somehow, there are FOUR wittysonas, that SOMEHOW match the colors of the four teller types from doors 😭

(btw the white one by artisan is a wittysona but doesn't count here due to being confirmed father, not one of the siblings. Plus doesn't fit in with what I found)


r/aiwars 7h ago

How can people simultaneously support scientific AI and criticize OpenAI for being unprofitable when OpenAI actually solves scientific problems? Should scientific AI even be profitable? Since when?

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It's one thing to criticize OpenAI for a result that isn't what they're promoting, but you initially said that only scientific AI is good, and currently the most successful methods for using LLM are those that occur in science. You can criticize Vibe coding at length, but you can't say same about solved scientific problems, especially if they weren't very popular, because then they pass two tests. The first in importance, and the second is that LLM does something humans don't do (because humans don't want to do it).

And whether AI is autonomous or not doesn't matter at all. The fact remains that AI helps science in areas where humans don't want to do things. Maybe , ironically, current AI is already the scientific sector you wanted and it isn't what Sam Altman wants and not what will give him many moneys?


r/aiwars 16h ago

Discussion KFC Australia with AI generated posters while also having signs about making things “the hard way” “by hand”

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Regardless of what side you’re on, the irony is hilarious.


r/aiwars 21h ago

Some of all can you please be freaking normal

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A kid posts that their mom ran one of their drawings through an AI tool.

The reaction in the anti-AI art sub isn’t “that was annoying, please ask first.

It’s this:

Top-level energy includes:

“Time to get a new Mom”

She’s being deliberately cruel

She “took the soul out of it”

Even a human redrawing it unprompted would be rude, and AI makes it worse

She doesn’t deserve to see the art anymore

This is a parent who almost certainly isn’t terminally online. She saw her kid’s drawing, thought it was cute, and used a tool that made a different version.

That’s a normal, clueless 2026 parent move. Not a calculated attack on the artist’s essence.

When the response to that is cut-her-off language and “soul” rhetoric, you’re no longer looking at normal artist frustration.

You’re looking at a community that has trained itself to treat every minor friction as a moral emergency. The emotional volume has to stay maxed out or the identity starts to feel less urgent.

Proportion is the missing piece.

Someone actually tracing and selling your work = real problem.

Someone harassing you = real problem.

Your mom running a file through an image model without asking = awkward and worth a conversation.

It is not the same category. Treating it like it is just makes the whole stance look unserious to anyone outside the bubble.

This is what the purity version of the anti-AI art scene increasingly looks like, high intensity, low threshold, and a strong incentive to escalate ordinary situations into proof of how embattled the group is.

If you are like this to anyone about AI in REAL life, you have a BIG problem, be fucking normal god sake.


r/aiwars 7h ago

What’s your thoughts on people who try to make AI art as human like as possible and say that their AI art is human made?

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r/aiwars 1d ago

Discussion How would both pros and the antis react to this video? (Note: AI-generated vid, not by me, but it's getting popular)

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r/aiwars 15h ago

I feel like most of the argument is that respect is earned

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So many of these posts boil down to: non generative deflection/theft&copyright/what is art

But I rarely see posts about what made an artist great before AI and how respect is earned. Artists starting out make bad art and progress in a way that is extremely personal in an objective sense. An “artist” consumes whichever art they are exposed to and combines it with years of practice and personal expression to create something so unique it becomes great.

Describing a song is so vastly different compared to someone honing their songwriting over the course of years and the only way to understand that is to do it.

AI is poisoning the artistic drinking water and wants respect at the same time, but that’s not how the world works. You can say “anything is art” and tell people you’ll dance on their graves when their jobs become too over saturated to be popular, but it’s a bridge too far to feel like you deserve respect yes?


r/aiwars 15h ago

Discussion An agency blamed AI for its collapse. What evidence would actually establish that AI was the cause?

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An Australian agency liquidation raises a broader question about how readily businesses and the media accept “AI disruption” as an explanation for corporate failure.

The Courier-Mail reported that The Big Smoke Media Group entered liquidation with approximately A$31,117 in assets and A$4.15 million in debt. Reported creditors included 13 employees and the Australian Taxation Office, which was reportedly owed nearly A$1.9 million. Former employees also alleged that superannuation remained unpaid.

ASIC records confirm that a liquidator was appointed on 10 June 2026.

The Courier-Mail identified the company’s director, a Public figure, as Anita Alexandra Tselios, also known as Alexandra Senter, and reported that she attributed the collapse largely to AI disruption in the marketing industry.

AI is unquestionably changing agency economics. It can reduce production costs, compress margins, eliminate routine work and encourage clients to bring services in-house. But does that adequately explain approximately A$31,000 in assets against A$4.15 million in liabilities?

The explanation becomes harder to assess when related operations continue providing publicly described digital, media, branding and web services through separate entities.

Sentral Holdings publicly presents Sentral Media Group as part of its portfolio. Sentral Media Group describes operations including TBS Digital Lab, a “strategy-led Digital and Media Agency,” and Oh Hello Agency LLC, a US-based “Brand and Web Creative Studio.” The Big Smoke advertised digital marketing, public relations, website design, and brand development.

Separate legal entities and overlapping services do not by themselves establish misconduct. They do, however, complicate the claim that AI made the underlying agency work unsustainable when substantially similar work appears to be continuing elsewhere within the related group.

What evidence should be required before accepting AI as the principal cause?

  • How would you distinguish an AI-driven collapse from ordinary cash-flow, governance, or management failures?
  • If substantially similar services continue through related entities, does that weaken the AI explanation?
  • Is “AI disruption” becoming a convenient way to portray preventable business failures as technological inevitabilities?
  • What should journalists ask before repeating a company’s claim that AI caused its collapse?
  • Should employee entitlements receive more attention than the AI narrative when employees are among the reported creditors?

I wrote a longer analysis with links to the public reporting, ASIC notice, and relevant company descriptions:

https://medium.com/@jeffreyjacobross/when-an-agency-blames-ai-for-its-collapse-look-at-the-balance-sheet-and-employee-entitlements-fde3f67bc82e

Disclosure: I worked for Oh Hello Agency in a senior North American role after its acquisition by Sentral Holdings. There are wage claims relating to unpaid compensation from my US employment. That claim remains unresolved, so I have a direct interest in the broader situation, and readers should weigh my perspective accordingly.

I am posting this to debate the AI explanation and its broader industry implications, not to encourage anyone to contact or target the people involved.


r/aiwars 18h ago

Discussion It bothers me how much praise this song is getting. I'm not pro or anti fyi.

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I get this feeling that despite the fact that this person believes what they are saying the are griffting. Possible intentionally but its going to be hard to convince me this person didn't post this knowing it would get tons of views because the anti ai message. The main reason im posting this is where I say it posted hint it involves obscure and slapping and it just erks me that this person can play a very basic guitar song and barley sing about how ai is bad and the anti come out in droves to clap like seals. I'm not a guitar player ( i play synthesizer) but isn't this the most beginners way of playing guitar possible like the strumming style and that its just pick a chord up down up down switch to another chord same strumming back to the original chord repeat tell the song is over. in what world is this innovative for people who claim to defend efforts you sure do love to glaze people who post lazy stuff just because its not ai or talks bad about ai. I feel like the music I post to my YouTube channel gets the appropriate amount of views based on the quantity which isn't very good but I try every week to make unique music that sounds nothing like anything that has already been played and seeing this person getting some much praise for playing this basic beginners stuff and people acting like its something extraordinary and special really make me unreasonable mad so I guess i can relate to antis in that regard!


r/aiwars 1d ago

average ai wars conversation

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r/aiwars 21h ago

Discussion Pro AI, debate me on anything

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I’m a pro AI person, very strongly so. I believe AI is going to be very prevalent in our future, and I strongly support that. Furthermore, I believe it is going to be humanity’s salvation in the future. I believe it will bring us to the next level in our civilisation

I understand there are a few problems with AI currently (or the external factors of it), and I’m willing to accept that. However I’m fully pro AI, and want to accelerate its development no matter what. Anti, please send me your points and I’ll try to give a logical point to it.