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Donald Trump’s immediate reaction to the 9/11 attacks was to brag that his building was now the tallest in downtown Manhattan after the Twin Towers collapsed.
I remember my father always talking about what a scumbag he was in the 80s. Then he ran republican and my father seemed to lose his total sense of moral compass, because he will be damned if he votes Democrat. Its been a wild trip watching this all play out, kind of feels like a psychological experiment.
I dont talk to him much about politics. He is still glued to fox news and whenever I go over there its amazingly intolerable how they spin everything. He believes what he hears, they are in fear for their lives because the woke are coming to destroy the world or whatever. He was always set in his ways but hes a grumpy old man now. My mother who is a little easier ro talk to but still just conforms to his opinions, still avoids politic talk with me because we just dont see things the same way.
This is not easy for you. But I co-sign. I still keep a healthy distance from a few of my sisters because of their unbridled support for the president. To have an intellectually honest conversation with a Trump humper who makes $300,000/year is not in the least bit feasible
Are you my relative? My Union family from Long Island that hated his guts for decades ended up becoming Trumpers. I guess if you hate the right people everything is forgiven
I am from nj originally, and I have had other people agree with similar comments before. I think its a boomer thing to be die hard for your team and scared that the commies are going to get you. I didnt go through what they went through but thats what I glean from their words.
I remember being a kid watching Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous. They did his home and I just remember thinking "This is a bad-guy/villain." He always looked evil to me.
We New Yorkers (for the most part) have always known about trump.
When he first announced his presidency, I didn’t believe he would ever win because surely the majority of the country would never elect a 6 time bankrupter to high office, and that was before all the Epstein revelations.
My family hated him since The Apprentice. They never found it cute or funny how he treated people. A girl did a dance to the "Money, money money" theme song in school, my grandma rolled her eyes. Her parents went to prison for embezzling millione of dollars.
Edit: pic of article included for people who think I just made this up. He was also my soccer coach and one the the "wealthiest" guys in the area.
This reminds me of the time a Texas county mutual insurance CEO absconded the country with all his clients' insurance payments, including mine. The next time I saw him, he was on the cover of a newspaper skiing down an alp with his fam looking for all the world as if he didn't have a care in the world. The "lie" part would be that Trump's first wife was skiing down with him nearby, but I swear to god that blonde celebrity in the background looked just like Ivana Trump, and it was in the 1980s.
I was born in 1978 and recognized the evil of this man as a young kid in the 80's. Even back then I realized he represented all the worst aspects of US culture.
I'm in your age group and yeah, he was already offputting to me for reasons I couldn't really pin down long before he made his Home Alone cameo, let alone got his terrible tv show. At the time, I just didn't like the way he talked. I was too young to realize I was picking up his overall evil villain vibes.
One? I'm confident there is a ton of bodies, and to me it will never be
real justice unless the perpetrators live to face the consequences of their actions.
Too many were hoping that Jesus would eventually take the wheel. Trump isn’t giving up this particular steering wheel, so buckle up, American suckers. If you’re not intimately familiar with what hell on earth is like, I “pray” that you learn real fast and that you have the staying power to endure the literal heat.
Exactly. People didn't vote for him because they didn't know he is a piece of shit, they voted for him because of that. The sooner the USA acknowledge they have a cancer with metastasis, the sooner the chemotherapy will begin.
We knew he was a 💩 back in the 80's when his ex warned us, when he took out several full page ads to call for the return of the death penalty for the black teens accused of the central park murder case "be forced to suffer". The five Black and Latino teenagers—later known as the Central Park Five—were wrongly convicted under pressure and coercion. Trump has repeatedly declined to apologize for the ads,
Trump never was the bigger problem, he’s a symptom of it.
Society has a very divisive view on insatiable greed. We all say we hate it, but our actions prove otherwise. The majority either hate it or don’t care and can’t be bothered. Then there are a significant amount of people who oddly admire it. They miss the message in popular films like Wall Street, Wolf of Wall Street, and American Psycho to a degree. They miss the point of being cautionary tales and more see them as anthems.
This admiration of greed exists in all demographics. Rich, poor, male, female, young, old, and every race that exists.
Donald Trump has been the poster boy of greed for 40-50 years.
"Trump never was the bigger problem, he’s a symptom of it."
I'm totally onboard with the idea that Trump is a symptom of a larger problem. But, at the same time, I think he's still almost uniquely horrible as an individual.
I'm one of those guys who regularly watches live 9/11 coverage because it's amazing historical material, it's insane to me that Democrats didn't use it in their presidential campaigns.
It wouldn’t have changed anything. When Trump said : “I could stand on 5th avenue and shoot someone, and I wouldn’t lose any voters”, it was not a joke. There is absolutely nothing this creep can do that will turn off his base.
When he talked about young models and how "they let him do things by grabbing them by the p***y", I thought for sure he was done, considering how other republicans having done almost nothing compared to that was usually cast out of the party.
But apparently, everything stopped making sense after 2016.
November 2018. The orange shit stain is scheduled to do a ceremony at a French cemetery where 1800 American military war dead lay. He doesn't want to do it, since it is drizzling and he doesn't want to mess his beehive hair up. He tells his four star General and Chief of Staff, General Kelly, that it is waste of time since those that died in service to our country are "suckers and losers".
If you voted for this POS AFTER this info became publicly available, you are in fact the suckers and losers in this case.
Its ridiculous. Did you see the older clip that popped up the other day of the Erin Burnett on the phone with a trump supporter? They said they were fasting to help with groceries and talked about the money they were 'saving money'.
When the Access Hollywood clip dropped and it didn't change anything for him, I knew they would eat up whatever shit he craps out. It's really amazing from a psychological standpoint, even though it sucks for society.
This was the reason I lost one of my close friends when I learned he voted for trump. I gave him this quote, and he said "yes, and I'd support him doing it" I blocked him on discord on the spot and I ghosted him in real life. we've never spoken since.
remember that was the rape of an adult. He has never paid for the well documented SA of a thirteen year old he is guilty of, or any other crime he committed with his BFF Jeffery Epstein.
Never forget that Sandy Berger repeatedly confronted Condolezza Rice in the summer of 2001, tried to get her to pay attention to the intelligence on the issue, and told her that she needed to concentrate on Bin Laden, who was going to attack America. She told him to fuck off, since W was fixated with Sadam Hussein.
She and George W are just as responsible for 9/11 as the Saudis are, and that reality is just ignored.
Republicans accused Bill Clinton of only trying to take out Osama bin Laden to distract from Monika Lewinsky. Pretending that’s the same as ignoring the intelligence warning of the 9-11 attack is just stupid.
Too bad so many people buy this bullshit.
I guess Obama negotiating the JCPIA is the same as Trump starting another forever war.
No homie... A majority of Dems aren't hitching themselves to a president that openly says he wants to wipe out entire demographics of law abiding citizens from existence.
You can make the case that they all share the same neocon DNA, but this both sides shit has to stop.
He had men chanting to grab women by the pussy, started a insurrection, told the world he would bang his daughter if they weren't related by blood, and said he could shoot someone on 5th avenue and not lose any voters.
I was in Marine Corps boot camp when this happened. We are completely cut off from civilization. But the San Diego International Airport shares a fence with Marine Corps Recruit Depot San Diego. We were in our second week and doing drill around the barracks. We doing pretty bad, the drill instructors stopped us and told us we had to get our shit together. Two planes just took down the trade towers, one crashed into the pentagon and one crashed on its way to the white house. It was such an unbelievable story. No one believed them. One of the drill instructors said "don't you think its weird that no planes have been flying?". It was weird, but that didn't mean what they said was happening was actually happening.
9/11 happened on a Tuesday, on Thursday some recruits went to dental, which is ran by the Navy. They had the TV on, and it was the only thing playing on the TV. Those recruits came back and told us it was real. We didn't get our first real bit of information till Sunday. We were allowed to purchase newspapers on Sundays. The following week we started getting letters from family telling us what was going on. Drill instructors started telling recruits they would get their MOS (job) changed to 0300 (infantry). We started having recruits jumping the fence to the airport trying to leave. The base commander had an all hands formation and said no drill instructor was allowed to tell any recruit that their job was being changed.
Anyways, I missed that whole event. Basically the entirety of the USA and most of the world experienced this event except me and maybe a few thousand people? Every year on 9/11 I rewatch the news coverage.
There’s a lot of things democrats don’t capitalise on. There’s endless amounts of ammo to use against Trump but they rarely do. Or they’re just bad at using it
I made like a collage / mural on my dorm wall after 9/11 of magazine and newspaper headlines. I wish I’d saved it somehow because it was fucking wild the shit they printed and sold. Like literal people jumping to their death to avoid the fire and smoke. WSJ had a headline that proudly exclaimed “MARKETS CHEER SHOCK AND AWE” … possibly the one that stuck with me the most was a I think an op Ed with a byline that said “what is needed now is classic white hot American rage”
9/11 was a resounding victory for enemies of the values that America, in its most hopeful and idealistic form, strives for
In the first Republican primary debate, I remember Trump said that when 9/11 happened, thousands in NJ were cheering on the rooftop when the towers fell. As someone from NJ, I thought his chances were dead after that. I expected every news outlet to pick up on how dumb he was to say that. I thought NJ would especially call him out, given many of us have family that live/commute to NYC and were personally impacted by 9/11.
But nope, very little backlash, even during the debate. In fact some "supporters" even tried to back-up Trump (which was most likely Russian election interference).
If lying about 9/11 didn't stop him from becoming the Republican primary, mentioning it wouldn't have gotten more Democratic support. 2016 was such a weird revelation.
That was my first concern after the attacks: What are the tallest buildings in Manhattan now?
F-ing embarrassed that this moron has been given any power, let alone more than anyone ever.
FDT times infinity
It's almost as if many Democrats are secretly compromised. Obama attempts to do something and the GOP obstructs it but Trump can do all kinds of crazy stuff and the Democrats act like helpless babies. It's weird, suspicious and discouraging.
What's funny is that if you look into anything the Heritage Foundation has put together, they've been pitching variations of Project 2025 since Reagan.
They've been extremely consistent with their views, it's just people refuse to accept their villainy for what it is: an end to the republic and return to a feudal techno-fascist oligarchy.
It's not a secret. There's been so many leaked audio of the various private elite donor calls essentially confirming this. It's just that a large swath of democratic voters refuse to accept that reality, and will get incredibly mad if you point this out.
Edit: not entertaining bad-faith "just asking questions" bs from people trying to bait a pointless discourse instead of engaging with donor control of the party.
I think it proves that Americans hate fuels them. They don't care if they feel negative impacts from his presidency as long as the people they hate feel it worse.
Just run this as a commercial for the next month until the midterms, and ask every single republic congressman whether they support his statements. Watch them squirm.
Well there’s not much to “support” in what he said since it’s just fact. The better thing to do would be to play this and then ask, if like Trump, were their initial reactions to also think of their investment properties and wether or not they had gained value due to a massive terrorist attack
Yeah but according to Republicans Zohran Mamdani was the one who ‘celebrated 911’ meanwhile he just declared it an official day of remembrance and service. Yet those xenophobic, racist assholes are still telling him to not to come to the Ground zero ceremony when he’s the fucking mayor of New York. 🙄
This is why it is dead essential to stop engaging, debunking or debating with the GOP at any level. They lie knowingly, and with zero interest for truth. They do it to waste time deliberately. They are intending to drag their opponents to the ground by and endless barrage of bullshit. It's why the hopeless naive assumption that a "gotcha" moment will change things is delusional and plays into their hand. They never were going to change their minds. They'll argue a complete 180 from their previous stance within a breath. They don't care as long as you lose.
Problem is that the internet is always takes the bait. Always. They can't not debate.
Zohran being Muslim is enough to call him an enemy of New York and happy for 9/11, but Trump literally celebrating the attack as it happened is enough to get him elected. It’s literally just racism.
All of the world's fattest oligarchs, really, including Russia's incomprehensible group of matryoshka oligarchs, who can no longer stomach watching Putin feed and wouldn't mind watching an American clown for awhile instead.
By the way, the pathetic prick was still wrong. He somehow managed to turn 9/11 into a brag about his property, and even that boast was bullshit 70 Pine Street was 25 feet taller. Imagine being that narcissistic and still failing at the one fact you chose to make about yourself.
“What a nice thing to say just after watching 3k people get murdered, he makes good President material” the average republican must have thougth at the time.
Cant figure out how he is president when all the American people have nothing good to say about him, like how did they fuck this up and allow him again
I’m convinced that he won initially cause everyone bought the successful businessman persona on TV and that stuck with the low IQ base the most because they can’t differentiate reality from fiction
His base likes this. It actually earns him more votes. They hear him say this and defend it by saying it's technically true while snickering. They don't care about the thousands of people who died because it didn't affect them.
I hate this guy with a passion but I struggle to believe this is real. Theres no way someone answers like that. I did a little bit of searching and I haven't found anything to backup this audio.
He wasn't even correct, Trump Tower only became the second tallest. He wasn't only an asshole who tried to use a national tragedy to stroke his ego, he was an incompetent asshole who tried to use a national tragedy to stroke his own ego. Nothing about him has changed.
40 Wall Street wasn’t even the tallest building in downtown Manhattan after 1WTC collapsed, it was 70 Pine. So he was not even right about his own buildings, which are probably the only things he actually likes.
Dude has always been an enormous scumbag, and an even bigger moron.
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