r/TopCharacterTropes Jul 12 '25

Weekly Discussion Post "Fanbase opinionsshould not be counted as tropes." TVtropes: (kinda relevant post)

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A lot of complaints in this sub have been about some posts should not be here because they rely on fanbase opions so there for cannot be considered "tropes"

...and then we have TVtropes , where a lot of tropes are just from fanbase stuff.

I am going to be honest here , I have difficulty in what makes a trope and what doesn't. It ends up where I delete "breaks trope guidline" posts that has equivalents in the TVtropes site that are considered actual tropes.

Idk , I just wanted to rant here. I might be a very bad moderator here , I just try to make it tody as possible , I just don't really know how to.


r/TopCharacterTropes Mar 27 '25

Weekly Discussion Post Probably the most controversial one , honest thoughts on "No Kill Rule"? What are the most egrigious examples of it in your opinion? What media makes it work in your opinion?

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r/TopCharacterTropes 6h ago

Characters [Funny Trope] When a recast gets acknowledged in universe with an explanation on looking or sounding different

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MCU, Captain America: Brave New World: Thaddeus "Thunderbolt" Ross is recast with Harrison Ford since the previous actor William Hurt died between movie production(RIP). Sam Wilson jokes that hie isn't used to the new look and Ross says his advisors told him, "lose them mustache or lose the election".

TMNT(2012 tv show): Leonardo gets a new voice actor for Season 3 in Seth Green. After the season finale where Leo received massive injuries from Shredder. While recovering in the O' Neil farmhouse someone asked why his voice sounds weird and Donnie explains that he sustained a lot of damage to his larynx(the organ that helps you talk).


r/TopCharacterTropes 6h ago

Characters (Horrifying Trope) Birth is supposed to be beautiful not utterly horrifying.

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Yuji and Kaori(Jujutsu Kaisen): Yuji was essentially born from a zombie. Kaori died and Kenny piloted her corpse to have intercourse with Jin to make Yuji. Essentially making Yuji who was used to house Jujutsu Satan who is also his Uncle

Guts’ mother(Berserk):Guts was found as a newborn infant under a tree full of hanged bodies. One of these was his mother, whose birth of him was triggered by her own death.

Cleopatra(Dante’s Inferno): Look up the video if you dare but she makes Unbaptized Infants from her bosom when you first encounter her in combat.

Elisabeth(The Substance):Elisabeth gives birth to the "better version of herself" (a younger clone for her to transfer her consciousness into), except it grows rapidly into an adult while inside her and then bursts out of her back. The process is excruciatingly painful for Elisabeth and has gory results.

Well all births but these are utterly horrifying


r/TopCharacterTropes 7h ago

Characters (Funny trope) The character fails to notice the obvious.

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*The Lego Batman Movie* – The Joker asks for the Batcave's location; when Sauron informs him that the cave is beneath Wayne Manor, the Joker assumes Batman and Bruce Wayne are roommates.

*South Park* – Butters' father is puzzled when his drone seemingly moves on its own during the night. Although many people suggest his son might have been responsible for activating it, he refuses to believe this because, in his words, "That's impossible; my son doesn't have permission to use the drone."


r/TopCharacterTropes 10h ago

Characters [Loved trope] Adapted character gets a “proto-name” before their proper one

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Netflix’s Daredevil: The Vigilante/ Man in Black -> The Devil of Hell’s Kitchen -> Daredevil

CW’s The Flash: The Streak-> The Flash

CW’s Arrow: The Hood -> Arrow -> Green Arrow


r/TopCharacterTropes 8h ago

miscellaneous [TV Trope] “Wow. That episode was really dark, even by the show’s standards.”

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(TRIGGER WARNING - mentions of SA, murder, and mental illness)

“Uncle” (Law & Order: SVU) - A mother and her 9-year-old daughter are violently raped and murdered after their killer tied them down onto the bed with packaging tape. They find evidence that the mother was struggling to make ends meet, and had decided to sell the daughter’s bicycle for extra cash. The detectives believe that her advertisement indirectly got them killed; the suspect saw an opportunity, given that there was no father or male relative present, and was allowed into their residence under the guise of purchasing said bike.

The first suspect is believed to be a homeless man with severe mental illness. After being placed in a holding cell, he’s revealed to be Andrew, the uncle of Detective Munch who had wandered away from a living facility after going off his medication. Detectives Beck and Stabler soon learn about DNA evidence that leads them to a man named Brent Allen Banks, who was previously convicted of rape fifteen years prior. He had likely seen the bike ad while restocking a vending machine at the supermarket. With his fingerprint on the ad, Brent claims he had lifted it to look at a different flyer. They inform him that the mother and daughter were covered in teeth marks, which is what Brent’s previous victim (who survived) experienced. A technicality, however, results in Brent walking away; a judge throws the bite mark evidence out, and there’s no legal reason to hold him.

Munch’s uncle, who had gotten to know the mother and daughter when they saw him in the park, is outraged over this and (despite being medicated) demands that Brent be “euthanized.” Beck and Stabler monitor the suspect and inform Andrew that they’ll handle it. Since he was temporarily housed at Munch’s residence, Andrew caught glimpses of the case files - he saw the brutality of the murders and found Brent’s address.

Beck and Stabler follow Brent when he appears to be taking a young woman on a date. They trail him to the subway and quickly realize that Andrew is there too. As the train approaches, Andrew shoves Brent onto the tracks, killing him instantly. When confronted by Stabler, he repeatedly says: “We did it! We did good!”

The episode ends with Andrew in a psychiatric facility, refusing to take an insanity plea. He tells his nephew that he needs to own up to his actions, and that he’d “rather die” than be on those medications again. (We never see Andrew after that and it’s implied that he’ll never go to trial, as it was determined he experienced a psychotic break.)

“You Can’t Handle the Truth” (Supernatural) - Sam and Dean investigate a small town in Illinois where several people feel compelled to tell the truth, no matter how horrible it is. It begins with a waitress serving customers; one of her patrons reveals they committed a violent hit-and-run years earlier and didn’t feel bad about, while a male co-worker rudely tells her she’s “not as hot” as the new employee. Already stressed out (and implied to be depressed), the waitress calls her sister to vent. The sister casually tells her that she’s a burden, and always has been. The waitress then hangs up the phone, pulls out a revolver, and shoots herself.

But (in my opinion) the most disturbing moment comes later in the episode. A dentist is making small talk with his patient, who just so happens to be a good family friend. The patient begins blabbering on about how he’s nervous to get his teeth checked… and then goes on about how his wife is aging poorly and he’s no longer attracted to her. The dentist is confused and taken aback, but proceeds with the appointment. The patient then admits to raping the dentist’s underage daughter when she visited his own kid for a sleepover; he even says he did it because “I knew I could get away with it.” Without thinking, the dentist proceeds to shove the drill down the patient’s throat, killing him. (The dentist later commits suicide after being placed in a holding cell.)

“Slaughterhouse” (CSI: Miami) - A family is massacred in their own residence with a shotgun, and the sole survivors are the father and toddler daughter. After awakening from surgery, the father claims he arrived home from work in the middle of a home invasion, before admitting that his wife is the one responsible (as her fatal injury appears to be self-inflicted). The team scopes the house to determine what likely occurred before and during the shooting. They theorize that the mother may have been experiencing postpartum psychosis, and evidence shows that she was on antidepressants at the time. Horatio soon doubts this, arguing that family annihilators are often men, and even when a woman is responsible, it’s unlikely for her to use a gun.

After the medical examiner takes a deeper look into the mother’s wound, she informs the team that she was murdered too; the position of the shogun was also inconsistent with how one would hold it when taking their own life. Believing that the father is hiding further information, he breaks down and says their 17-year-old son was the shooter and that it was an act of revenge for the discovering that dad was having an affair. After the mother gave birth to the youngest victim (the 8-month-old baby), all responsibility fell onto their son; with his father being a workaholic and mom struggling with her emotions postpartum, he was left to help out with his three younger siblings. (His teeth are examined for excessive grinding and the examiner remarks, “Good Lord, what kind of stress was this boy under?”)

When actually retracing the pattern of events - and who died in what order - the team realize that dad is the killer. He took the day off work and came home when nobody was expecting him to. Earlier that morning, he had spiked his wife’s drink with a higher dosage of her medication and she was passed out on the couch when he found her. He shoots her before going after the 13-year-old son, who wasn’t in school because of the flu; dad shot him in the back as he played video games with noise-cancelling headphones. He detoured to the garage to remove the life insurance policies from the safe, and that’s when the 17-year-old came home with dinner. The son found his toddler sister on the couch with mom, covered in blood, and quickly took her to backyard so she could hide. He goes back inside to retrieve his baby brother when he encounters dad with the shotgun; a fight ensues - the son manages to grab the gun and shoots dad in the lower back. He drops the weapon and takes his brother from the carrier to flee. Before passing out, dad grabs the gun and shoots the teen as he attempts to run towards the front door. The buckshot goes through him and into the infant, killing them both instantly.

After arresting the father, Horatio asks him if he really thought he could get away with this. The man blames his wife for being neglectful and says that he “just snapped.” He informs Horatio that a jury will sympathize with him once they “hear the whole story.”

“Stranger” (Law & Order: SVU) - A young woman appears on the doorstep of the Hallander family, and they realize she’s Heather - the youngest daughter who went missing a few years earlier when she was fourteen. Detectives Stabler and Benson are hesitant to believe the young woman’s identity, but she appears to know things about the family that make it difficult to prove she’s lying.

Halfway through the episode, she attempts to slice her wrists and is taken to the hospital; because she needed a blood transfusion, the doctors took note of her blood type and inform Stabler that it’s not possible for her to be the biological daughter of Mr. and Mrs. Hallander (“Heather” is Type B, but the Hallanders are both Type A). They confront the woman, accusing her of being a con artist. She professes that everything she previously told them was true: she was kept in a basement, forced to urinate in a bucket, and was raped repeatedly every day. Her identity is soon determined to be that of Kristen Vucelik, who was abducted by her father years earlier after a nasty custody dispute. Kristen’s father is arrested and she’s soon reunited with her mother. Before she’s due to travel back to Ohio, however, Kristen stops by the Hallander residence at the request of Nikki, the middle daughter.

Because Nikki had been acting “off” throughout the episode, Benson and Stabler attempt to locate her but find that she’s disappeared with Kristen. Mrs. Hallander denies knowing anything, but oldest daughter Erica confronts her and asks why she’s lying about Kristen leaving with Nikki. The mother quickly breaks down, revealing that she’s known the real Heather has been dead this whole time - and that Nikki was responsible. She explains: “I already lost one daughter, I couldn’t lose another!”

The episode ends with the detectives and Erica confronting Nikki on the rooftop of the apartment building, where they rescue Kristen. Nikki implies that she pushed Heather into the giant chimney stack because the latter caught her doing drugs and “she was going to tell on me.” She’s arrested and coldly tells Kristen: “Why did you pick us? The police stopped looking for my sister a long time ago.”


r/TopCharacterTropes 12h ago

Characters [Loved Trope] Characters making comments on weird or unreasonable things in their world

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I don't know if it makes sense or should these be in a same topic, but it just crossed my mind after watching Elemental last night. Let me know if it doesn't and share your examples of course.

  1. Yzma (The Emperor's New Groove). Yzma wants to enter her lab so she commands Kronk to pull the lever, but it ends up being the wrong lever. She asks why is it even there.

  2. Wade (Elemental). Wade and Ember both easily get over a fence, which makes Wade asking why is there even a fence.

  3. Kusuo Saiki (The Disastrous Life of Saiki K.). Hair colors being anything but black, became a very usual trope in anime since idk when, but Saiki can't just get over this easily so he claims that because of his hair being pink, it was weird and hard to go around so he changed the fact that pink hair is "weird" with his psychic powers and it ended up rewriting the human biology on the genetic level.

  4. Yakitate!! Japan. Like in Siaki, different hair colors is supposed to be a normal thing in this anime, until a character named Henry Spencer, tells another character named Kawachi that dyeing his hair blond isn't very japanese of him.


r/TopCharacterTropes 8h ago

Lore [Loved Trope]The hero has their secret identity revealed, but instead of their life getting ruined the public stands by them and supports them.

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1) Spider-Man 2- Whilst fighting Doctor Octopus Peter's mask slips off and he's knocked out in a train full of people who get a good look at his face, but instead of being met with hatred they actually feel bad for him, with one of them commenting that Peter looks as old as his kid. The people then form a human shield to protect him from Doc Ock, and eventually move him to safety.

2) Ben 10: Ultimate Alien- Ben's secret identity he's been guarding for 6 years is finally released to the public, but instead of his life being ruined (although it is definitely negatively affected to a certain degree) he's met with fan clubs and paparazzi. When he goes back to school and everyone glares at him he's confronted by his bullies, who tell him that he's helped a lot of people over the years and the whole school starts cheering him on.

3) Iron Man- At the end of the first movie Tony Stark reveals that he's Iron Man, but the following movies show him being loved by the public for it. Every time he beats a major villain afterward he's cheered on by bystanders, and when he sacrifices himself to save the universe he's mourned across the planet.

4) Spider-Man (Ultimate Comics)- In this timeline Peter dies saving his loved ones and his identity is revealed to the world. The people of New York and every hero come together to throw a massive funeral for him, with almost every New Yorker attending it because they all have a story of being saved by Spidey at some point.


r/TopCharacterTropes 10h ago

Characters [Loved Trope] Street Food vendor in scifi media that gives the main character advice or useful information

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r/TopCharacterTropes 4h ago

Characters Magical Girls using non-magical attacks

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Madoka Magica- using guns stolen from the yakuza

Pretty Pretty Please I Don’t Want to be a Magical Girl- breaking enemy's legs with a lead pipe

Magical Girl Ore- bludgeoning monsters to death with her staff


r/TopCharacterTropes 3h ago

Hated Tropes [Hated trope] First time, it's great! Second time, it's a chore and unskippable. (Bonus points if it's with a polar opposite character from the protagonist)

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Ironwood, God of War Ragnarok. First time you get to Ironwood via a dream (don't ask), it's mesmerizing and playing as Atreus is ok, but the second, third, fourth time you have to play through it it becomes vomitive. There's a "racing" section where you can literally go take a piss, come back and it's both automatic and still going.

MJ section, Spider Man game. Again, first time you play through it, it's a neat little section, but subsequent playthroughs have no way of skipping it to get to the web slinging action, instead doing a boring stealth section over and over.


r/TopCharacterTropes 10h ago

Lore [Classic Trope] Gilligan Cut

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Characters suggesting something in obvious jest or insisting there is no way they will ever do something, followed by an abrupt camera cut to them going through with it. Fun fact, this is the first ever trope to be posted on TV Tropes.

1: "I'm not gonna dress up like a girl, and you can't make me!" (Gilligan's Island, the trope namer)

2: "What do you want me to do, dress in drag and do the hula?" (The Lion King)

3: "We are not doing 'get help'." (Thor Ragnarok)


r/TopCharacterTropes 1h ago

miscellaneous [Dialogue Trope] "I have to say this in English" NSFW

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Tagged NSFW just in case.

O-Ren Ishii (Kill Bill, vol. 1): O-Ren is the Chinese/Japanese-American head of the Yakuza. When a lower-ranking boss named Tanaka disrupts a meeting by insulting her for being Chinese, American and a woman, O-Ren cuts off his head.

She then tells everyone to never mention her ethnicity, saying it in English so that "everyone understands how serious [she] is."

The Nazi Officer (Wonder Woman (1975)): In the pilot episode, a Nazi officer tells a spy about his next mission in English, hoping the other Germans around them won't eavesdrop on something so secretive. This backfires, as the officer's assistant turns out to be an American spy.

And yeah, that is the only image I could find.

Hans Landa (Inglorious Basterds): While questioning a French farmer about the possibility of Jewish people being hidden in the farmhouse, Nazi Colonel Hans Landa switches from French (which he is fluent in) to English. The hidden Jewish family doesn't understand English, and Hans knows he can talk without tipping them off to the fact that he knows about them.

Jeevan Thondaman (Real Life): I usually don't like using real life examples, but this is what inspired this post in the first place.

Jeevan Thondaman, a member of the Sri Lankan Parliament, recently addressed Parliament in English so that everyone present could understand his point (because Sri Lanka has a bunch of different local languages). This makes sense, because he was blasting Parliament for ignoring child abuse carried out by religious figures.


r/TopCharacterTropes 12h ago

Characters Characters with unfortunate names

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Sigma (Mega Man X)

Clanker (Banjo Kazooie)

Goons (Lego Batman)


r/TopCharacterTropes 13h ago

Lore [Loved Trope] Alien invaders were actually fringe outcasts of a grander universe

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I always liked this idea: instead of it being a large interstellar empire invading Earth, the Alien invaders were actually just Aliens' equivalent of barbarians or pirates.

Examples:

  • Demons/Castes (Cowboys and Aliens) - In the movie, the protagonists refer to them as "Demons," but in the book it's based on they're called Castes. The Castes/Demons aren't some large empire invading Earth; instead, they're pirates who came to Earth looking for gold, and they hunt Humans for experimentation so they can bring reinforcements to establish a permanent mine on Earth. They're meant to be an allegory for Conquistadors and colonialism, where white settlers are being put in the same position that they forced Native Americans into for centuries.
  • Landsharks/Aliens (Battle: Los Angeles) - The Landsharks were a mysterious shark-like species of aliens who invaded Earth, most likely to harvest its water. It was confirmed by the director that they weren't actually some space-faring empire; instead the were one of many civilizations that existed on their homeworld. But they were chased out after losing a war and are now fleeing to find a new home.
  • Prawns (District 9) - The Prawns accidentally ended up on Earth for unknown reasons, but basically, their ship was stagnant, so they ended up taking refuge in Johannesburg. After major tensions between the humans and the Prawns, they were forced into an internment camp called District 9, where they would be exploited by criminal gangs and a weapons company called Multi-National United (MNU), which conducted medical experiments on Prawns to understand their weapons. Later, a Prawn named Christopher would retake the mothership and fly back, presumably to his homeworld so that he can rescue his people.
  • Reticulans (UFO: AfterBLANK trilogy) - I don't remember much about these guys, but basically, the Reticulans who invade Earth to turn it into a biomass are not actually a unified empire but are a doomsday cult. The Expedition, the actual Reticulan civilization, views these guys as terrorists and actively helps the Humans fight them.
  • Greys (various media) - Looking back, I don't think anyone ever assumed the Greys that abduct people across old sci-fi media were part of a large civilization. The abductions imply they were field researchers, but no one ever fleshed it out. I think that most people just assumed that the Greys that abduct people were interstellar nomads rather than invaders.

r/TopCharacterTropes 14h ago

miscellaneous [loved trope] The original character is much stronger than the violent parody

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Superman and Homelander (Dc comics and The boys) even in the comics the best Homelander can do is throw a jet with one hand. meanwhile Superman can lift infinite weight and fly out of black holes.

Barney and Buddy (Buddy the unicorn and Barney the dinosaur) basically buddy is a demonic entirety that exists inside his TV and preys on people to brain wash them and make them part of his show, he can die by getting stabbed or burned. Barney can create stars and has literal imagination as his power.


r/TopCharacterTropes 4h ago

Lore [Underrated Trope] The Understated Crossover

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In an age where every game makes a big hoopla about the crossovers they have; I find it interesting to look back on the things that didn't make a big deal that they were doing a crossover. The character from another franchise just shows up, does their thing, and bows out without the game making a big event out of it.

Pizza Tower x Mort the Chicken - The titular hero of the PS1 game Mort the Chicken randomly shows up in a level of Pizza Tower as a power up. Granting a double jump and an attack that can take out electrical enemies and allow you to grab onto hook points. Outside of Fun Farm however, Mort isn't seen again until the final level, Crumbling Tower of Pizza; where he's one of the people Peppino saves from the collapsing tower.

Turns out, the crossover came about because Pizza Tower creator, McPig, simply liked Mort the Chicken and asked Mort's creator, Ed Annunziata, for permission. Which Annunziata granted without even apparently requesting a royalty from McPig. The crossover also spawned a lot of Pizza Tower title cards featuring crossovers ranging from Shovel Knight to Hell's Kitchen.

Dead or Alive x Halo - In Dead or Alive 4, Tecmo decided to add the Master Chief as a secret unlockable fighter. Unfortunately, Bungie declined the request as they felt it would clash with the story of the Halo series. However Bungie did let Tecmo make their own Halo character based on the Master Chief, Nicole-458. The idea being that Nicole was a Spartan-II super-soldier, just like the Chief, who was trapped on a space station temporally displaced from the 26th Century to the 21st.

Bungie would actually return Tecmo's favor in Halo 3 by including a set of armor based on Ryu Hayabusa's appearance and named after him. You can even get a special katana backpiece for the Hayabusa armor as one of Halo 3's final unlockables. It also adds the implication that Halo is set in the far future of the Dead or Alive games which there's no canon to dispute that claim so... yeah, I'm rolling with that. Because it's funny.

EDIT: I can't believe I forgot that Nicole is also canonically Filipina just so the devs could make the joke that her favorite food is halo-halo.


r/TopCharacterTropes 14h ago

Characters [interesting usually comedic trope] characters who the audience never see on screen

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1) Incredibles: Frozon’s Wife is never seen on screen but is part of the most memorable scene in the movie, interestingly she has a design that was going to be used but was decided against because according to Brad Bird “she’s funnier as just a voice”

2) Victorious: Cats brother is never seen on screen and only mentioned several times on things he’s done, however we have a very good idea on what kind of character he is just from Cat’s comments about him.


r/TopCharacterTropes 6h ago

Powers Their power is screaming really loud

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Black Canary (DC)

Silver Banshee (DC)

Black Bolt (Marvel)


r/TopCharacterTropes 18h ago

building/location. [Building trope] Giant and distinguishable megastructures

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Giant structures are made by mankind to express their ambition of "reaching the sky", to achieve parity with God, to beat records or to show their superiority. Here are some examples of giant/distinguishable monuments or constructions in medias

- Tower of Babel (Bible): in the Bible, the Tower of Babel was made by the men so they could gain fame and become "God's equal". In the end, the language mix created by God made the project unfinished.
- Zigurrat (Metropolis, Japanese animation movie): This high structure in the city of Metropolis is in fact a mass destruction weapon to subjugate the entire planet
- Volkshalle (Man in the High Castle / IRL): planned IRL by Hitler for his project of "Germania", the Volkshalle was supposed to be the largest dome on the planet and to welcome more than 100,000 peope during mass celebrations. The construction of this building would be a logistics challenge, and the dome (higher than the Eiffel Tower) would create its own climate system
- Tower of the Soviets (IRL): This project was supposed to celebrate communism and to become the highest structure on Earth, with a giant statue of Lenin on its top.
- X-Seed 4000 (IRL): This visionary and futuristic building would have accomodated +1.000.000 people and would reach 4,000 m (+12,000 feet). However, it was merely a proposal, as realistically speaking, it would be hard to make this project feasible.
- Friend's Tower (20th century Boys): as Friend virtually dominated the world through mass manipulation, he made this giant structure in Japan while the rest of the population was kinda condemned to live like in the 80s (despite the manga being set in the 21st century)
- Burj Khalifa (IRL): Currently the highest building on Earth... but for how long ?


r/TopCharacterTropes 4h ago

miscellaneous (Sad/Tragic Trope) Unnecessary “Sacrifice” (But not limited to Human Sacrifice)

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(Telltale’s The Walking Dead: Season 1 Finale) - sacrificing Lee’s Arm with a rusty saw does not save him from the rapidly-spreading Virus like he hopes it will. Regardless of the choice made, Lee Everett suffer the events of the episode in the same way as he would otherwise, just with one less limb, (although both choices lead to his death anyway so I guess it doesn’t really matter in the long run, but it’s a good example of the Trope)

(The Walking Dead: The Ones Who Live) - In the opening minutes of the first episode of the mini-series. Rick Grimes (After being imprisoned by a Post Apocalyptic Military group for many years) decides to attempt a desperate escape by sacrificing his Hand with an Axe to free himself of his cuff and flee whilst he has the opportunity to. The plan doesn’t work and he’s re-captured almost immediately after. Being re-imprisoned, now without a hand.

This Trope (like the title suggests) Can include Human sacrifice (which is more common with this trope so I expect to see a ton of it) but doesn’t have to be limited by it, so I showed two scenarios where the “Unnecessary Sacrifice” wasn’t a person, but a body part, and of course it isn’t limited to that either, anything that you could call a Sacrifice that ends up not really mattering can qualify.


r/TopCharacterTropes 11h ago

Characters The random loyal fan who stuck with the protagonist the whole way

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Nacho Libre - Every fight Nacho has in the movie there’s always that one old guy who supported Nacho the whole movie.

Tony Gazzo (Rocky) He’s Rocky’s loan-shark boss who had a soft spot for him He gives Rocky money to take Adrian out, helps him financially when he gets the Apollo opportunity, and generally seems proud that this random collector working for him suddenly gets a shot at the heavyweight championship and goes to both fights Rocky has against Apollo just to support him.


r/TopCharacterTropes 12h ago

Characters [Interesting trope] The villain is a pretty good boss to work for

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Villains tend to showcase their malevolence through how they treat those around them, whether it be their enemies, their family, and of course, their underlings. It's common to show how bad they are by showing what terrible, abusive bosses they are to their mooks, assistants, abusing them for minor infractions, punishing them by proxy when their plans are foiled, or simply not caring if they get in the crossfire because they have reserves and their mooks' lives couldn't matter less to them. Well, then there's the exceptions, villains who not only don't go out of their way to mistreat those under their command, but they're even good, competent bosses all things considered, treating their mooks with respect and rewarding them for their accomplishments. Here are some examples:

-Adrian Toomes aka the Vulture in Spider Man Homecoming: Once the head of a salvaging company whose contract to clean up the destrution in New York was screwed after Tony Stark's Damage Control took over and didn't even bother to refund the original company or care about their situation, Toomes and his assistants saw an opportunity when they got the scavanger technology from the battle and turned it into weapons to be sold to the underworld, at first to save their business but then they turned to stealing leftovers from Avengers' battles under their nose, which Adrian wears a flying suit for and creates the Vulture persona to keep his business and give his family a well-off life.

Despite his fall from grace, though, Toomes remains a perfectly reasonable boss to his partners, listening to their ideas and looking after them. The only time he acts like a typical supervillain boss is when one irresponsible member screws up one time too many and then threatens to tell on him, but Toomes merely tries to use an anti-gravity weapon on him, only desintegrating him by accident. Even then, it's clear that murdering his goons is never his first idea and he genuinely values them as his personal responsibility

-Professor James Moriarty in the Sherlock Holmes book series: Sherlock's famous nemesis, once a mathematic professor who turned to crime because he found it more challenging and exciting, Moriarty may apply strict discipline towards his employees and punish them with death for treason, but he pays his sniper Sebastian Moran an exorbitant salary and, if any of his agents is caught, money will be found in his organization for said agent's freedom or defense. After his death, Holmes comments how three of his former agents will stop at nothing to avenge themselves on him, indicating Moriarty inspired undying loyalty on many of his employees.

-Shan Yu in Mulan (1998): The leader of the invading Hun army is very respectful towards his soldiers, often praising their abilities and never treating them unnecessarily harshly, even declining one of their suggestions to avoid the Chinese army in a very polite manner... at the same time holding a doll left by some Chinese little girl and commenting his intent to "return it to her", namely massacre her entire village, which he does.

-Major Lio Partagaz in Andor: In most Star Wars media, it's common to see how pettily abusive Imperial leadership tends to be to their underlings, to the point of being impractical and undermining themselves by encouraging interservice rivalry and losing mistreated employees to defection. Lio Partagaz, a high-ranking officer at the Investigations Branch shows no such issues, being an excellent boss on paper. He listens to his employees even when they criticize his system, disencourages petty bickering and rewards competence as opposed to constantly punishing failure, and when he has a rare rant when they're having difficult delivering their work on time and calms down, he acknowledges that they have a systemic issue preventing them from handling their workload that isn't their fault and resolves to find a solution rather than just pressure his subordinates even harder.

Unfortunately, he's a tragic example of this, as for all of his resonability, he's still part of a brutally oppressive regime, who considers a man who tortures people with the screams of children killed in a genocide to be one of his most valuable assets, and is willing to facilitate a genocide himself, which we see onscreen no less. All in all, he's a tragic example of talents being wasted to enable the atrocities committed by the Galactic Empire.


r/TopCharacterTropes 9h ago

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Diddy Survivors in Mario Superstar Baseball- Speaks for itself

ISIS from Archer- also the name of a terrorist organization

Corona- both a beverage and a deadly virus