r/SipsTea 4h ago

Chugging tea Capitalism Needs Chill

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u/bshjbdkkdnd 4h ago

It can be a fair proposition to ask a fully developed nation to invest more into pharmaceutical research.

Making the drugs once they are tested is the cheap part. Ensuring the drugs do what they are supposed to and don’t cause long term effects is extremely expensive.

The US spends about half of global spending on drug research, out spending all of Europe per

https://efpia.eu/publications/data-center/the-pharma-industry-in-figures-rd/pharmaceutical-rd-expenditure-in-europe-usa-china-and-japan/

u/Damage_Physical 4h ago

Neighbour article there https://efpia.eu/publications/data-center/the-pharma-industry-in-figures-economy/geographical-breakdown-of-sales-of-new-medicines/

Us spends about half on research and accounts for 70% of consumption.

u/Tricky_Big_8774 4h ago

That's only drugs developed in the past 5 years.

u/haroldflower27 4h ago

Stupid argument

u/PrinzRagoczy 41m ago

Not really, like any product it takes time for a new drug to achieve market penetration. In this case it's doctors knowing about it and being comfortable enough with its effects to prescribe it in various cases

If a drug has been around for longer in the US it stands to reason that usage will still be ahead there for a while

Further, just because something is on the world market doesn't mean all countries buy it immediately. Take the NHS for example, there are months of internal discussions about whether a new drug is worth it, followed by months or years of negotiations with the company for a deal

u/haroldflower27 39m ago

Germany literally was warned recently by the us to maybe stop making medicine affordable wdym

u/bshjbdkkdnd 4h ago

Consuming new medications doesn’t negatively impact research spending though.

Yeah they come to the US first, why, because the US pays the most for per medication, or the US has better healthcare than Reddit would lead you to believe.

Although most of that goes into the companies pocket it does lead to an incentive of innovation to continue funneling money into the pharmaceutical research.

If Germany is pulling back on research spending and cutting deals with pharmaceutical companies that limits further research the US does have a dog in the fight to not be thrilled about it.

u/forwheniampresident 2h ago

Where did Germany pull back on research?

If anyone is pulling back on research it’s the US defunding science

u/pedretty 4h ago

In case anyone is interested in statistically relevant data that can actually assist in the comparison, rather than just a random span of five years:

The U.S. commands roughly 51% of the total global pharmaceutical market by value.

u/boatenvy 3h ago

Yup because the margin is so disproportionately large on US drug prices. Interesting to see you quote that number because quite a few years back I was in big pharma (GlaxoSmithKline at the time) and back then GSK's annual income split btw the US and every other country was almost exactly 50%.... I guess nothing has changed.

u/wildmewtwo 4h ago

That's mostly because of the toxic "food" people consume here while living sedentary lives and getting lead poisoning from the crumbling infrastructure