r/SipsTea 3d ago

Chugging tea Thoughts on this?

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u/Savings_Studio_5678 3d ago

You eliminate poverty by increasing productivity not enforcing a nanny state

u/DarkriseEQOA 3d ago

Correct. Only capitalism and free markets can create wealth. And wealth is what solves problems in society. Unfortunately most people think the solution is just to steal from productive people. Very sad.

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u/DarkriseEQOA 3d ago

No it doesn’t. It creates wealth. Free trade is the only system to do so. That is wealth that benefits society as a whole. Government policies like inflation do, however, concentrate wealth.

u/My_18th_Account 3d ago

So...even Adam Smith who wrote "The Wealth of Nations" would actually disagree with you that a market should be totally unregulated and "free."

u/tubbyscrubby 3d ago

The kinds of people like the guy you are responding to don't know anything about the economic systems they champion. I doubt he has ever even read a single excerpt from "The Wealth of Nations"

u/DarkriseEQOA 3d ago

Being against free trade is stupid. It’s just people voluntarily trading with each other. What gives you the right to use aggressive force to stop people from doing so?

u/My_18th_Account 3d ago

Please point to where I made that claim.

u/tubbyscrubby 3d ago

The guy thinks free trade and capitalism are synonyms and that inflation means printing money. 

He is the single most economically illiterate person I have ever seen use the word capitalism.

u/DarkriseEQOA 3d ago

I didn’t say you claimed anything. I’m just making the statement that being anti-free trade is inherently authoritarian and stupid.

u/Fearless-Minimum-922 3d ago

A free market eventually becomes a controlled one without regulation. Theodore Roosevelt was the trust buster that stopped the concentration of wealth through monopolistic practices. Ole Rockefeller and Carnegie were ruthless capitalists that worked their men like dogs with the 6-12 schedule that only allowed Sundays off for the lord. A heavy hand in the markets leads to chaos but an unregulated market will lead to wealth concentration, meaning you have to have a common sense middle ground. It’s like how we are a democratic republic, you take the best of the two systems and create a good middle ground to combat the shortcomings of either one.

u/DarkriseEQOA 3d ago

Monopolies are fiction of the state. They are created when companies lobby government for beneficial restrictions to crush competition. And monopolies aren’t sustainable because of the economic calculation problem. So monopolies eventually collapse as they have no competition and no way to calculate the costs of their resource allocation in an efficient manner as they control everything.

u/tubbyscrubby 3d ago

Inflation isn't a government policy, and free trade is not unique to capitalism, dumbfuck.

u/DarkriseEQOA 3d ago

Inflation is when government prints money. That is so obviously a government policy. But please tell me about how “muh corporate greed” causes inflation. I’d love to hear all about your economic illiteracy.