How do you fix that though? Genuine and sincere question. I yearn for a better world to live in where we as a species and planet are able to survive, but thrive, without endangering others in the process. It always takes just a few to ruin things for everyone else. How do you take that mindset and change it in a more forward and positive direction. If there was one trait I could take away from humanity, it would be greed, but there is no black and white answer. Something like that would take generations. My favorite quote is, "A society grows great when old men plant trees whose shade they know they shall never sit in".
Extreme punishment does very little to deter crime because everyone committing crimes thinks they can get away with it. The certainty of getting caught deters crime a lot more than the threat of harsh punishments
I’m not going to lie, “robust internal affairs” reminds me of the KGB. Specifically the line from the Docuseries Chernobyl when Charkov says something along the lines of “of course I have people watching you, I have people watching me, and I have people watching those people.” Sounds very Communist.
You also have to understand all these intelligence systems were just as much about getting rid of personal and political enemies, as much as about investigating legitimate crimes and foreign governments abroad trying to mess with their country.
That’s why I said everyone immediately thinks about using said system to purge people they don’t like within their community. People rarely care about investigating and bringing to justice even the most heinous of criminals. Youll find that almost every Communist and Antifa member could care less if Hitler rose from the grave and started to kill another 6m jews, but in america, if he was outside their personal reach.
There’s nothing inherently communist about what you’re talking about. Just look at Palantir, flock cameras, the stuff Snowden exposed. That’s all from a capitalist country.
The fact that you've even asked me that question tells me everything. You're either a conservative bot going by your post history or just a shit stirrer. Either way, Communism does not and has never required an authoritarian leader, that is essentially anathema to the underlying core structure laid out by Karl Marx. Communism is classless and stateless.
Unfortunately in real life people can be real worthless shitbags sometimes. Warping and changing Communism to their own needs does not mean that Communism itself needs them. And to cut you off in case you want to throw this old talking point at me, I'm fully aware that Communism as described by Karl Marx is virtually impossible in reality and this is not an endorsement of Communism.
If you're going to hate on something at least know what you're talking about.
It’s because the goal of most communists in getting to communism is global communism, of which not everyone is actually for. So, in the end, they need authoritarianism to enforce communism which is a contradiction. And when they get that authority, no one wants to relinquish control. So things teeter on the “dictatorship of the proletariat” every time.
People often confuse Soviet economics, with authoritarian soviet governance.
One can have libertarian communism, or authoritarian capitalism. We happened to experience authoritarian vanguard socialism (which called itself communism) and most people can't distinguish the government style from the economic system 🤷
Yeah, the only difference between communist and capitalist mass surveillance/secret policing is that capitalist systems act like it's magically happening from nowhere and since nobody is causing it, nobody can stop it.
That's why such entities need to be separate, impartial, and the decisions need to be civilian and not military or police.
Something like a network of whistleblower organizations, but with power to fire or prosecute officials or police who break the law or abuse their power. You can't just have one central one though, you need multiple that cover different aspects and have to agree.
It is just that few places have the political will and resources to figure out a system like that, let alone execute on it.
I feel like extreme punishment is a slippery slope. Somebody recently argued that armed robbery should result in the death penalty whether they harmed someone or not. That seems like an absolutely awful plan. The punishment does need o fit the crime or things can get out of hand.
I mean, only in the beginning. After a while the extreme punishment can be turned into rehabilitation, but first people should fear to turn into someone bad.
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u/Varderal 3d ago
That'll take the desperate crimes off the table. The ones fueled by greed will always be presant no matter how utopian we all live.