r/ProgressiveHQ 1d ago

News He's probably gonna blame Biden

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u/FriendOk3237 1d ago

farmers fine with socialism if it is for them

u/bigkahuna1uk 1d ago

About to type the same but you beat me to it. Farmers would cease to exist if not for the largesse and support of the government through subsidies and programs. It’s socialism in any shape or form. Farmers are advocates of the free market until it starts to directly affect them. Farmers are conservative by nature and may remain critical of government involvement, regardless of the financial assistance they receive. Very hypocritical.

u/OloFlamingo 1d ago

Farmers are conservative by nature? Before the New Democrats (Clinton) and the Reagan era, farmers usually voted Democrat

u/bigkahuna1uk 1d ago

Not in a political persuasive sense but in their sensibilities. They’re not progressive. They’re resistant to change. It explains why a lot still vote in that fashion no matter how it affects them. Farmers are still likely to vote for a conservative candidate rather than a progressive one, even if the former affects their bottom line. There’s countless videos of farmers who are literally losing their farms and livelihood. When asked who they’re likely to vote in the next midterms or next presidential election, it will overwhelmingly be for a right wing candidate despite the left actually have beneficial policies for the environment or their local economy. Go figure.

u/Visual_Exam7903 20h ago

A lot of that is because for 16 hours a day they listen to right wing media. Thanks to Reagan's FCC and the removal of the fairness doctrine. Paved the way for Rush, Alex Jones, Hannity, and Carson. All idiots that would get destroyed in a format that had to present both sides of an argument. Thrive in the monopoly of airtime.

u/bigkahuna1uk 20h ago

Thanks for that nugget of information. I’m in the UK and in the past such journalism wouldn’t be allowed over here. It wouldn’t be broadcast unless there was an opposing viewpoint shown. But over the last few years, we’ve got the equivalent of Fox News , where opinion is often presented as fact. It’s still fringe viewing compared to Fox News in the States. I hope it doesn’t gain any further traction.

u/maeryclarity 18h ago

Y'all need to fear it because IT WILL. Everyone in the USA can testify to this. How it started out "fringe" and people originally laughed it off and called them shock jocks and said they were just listening because of how outrageous it was. Then over twenty year's time it gradually became the ONLY source of news for so many people and that's a serious problem we can't just hand wave away.

A HUGE PORTION OF OUR POPULACE TRUSTS THESE LIARS AND PROPAGADISTS AS THE ONLY REAL SOURCE OF INFORMATION, they exist in an entirely different reality from everyone else, and are also constantly told how everyone else is trying to fool them.

They've also entirely insulated themselves (the propagandists/right wing Authoritarians)...by convincing people that NO MATTER HOW BAD THINGS ARE RIGHT NOW, it will definitely be worse if any other party gets into power.

So by that metric there is no convincing them. They believe that things are bad but any shift to the left will be worse and since things are so bad, they're willing to fight like rabid animals to prevent any shift in the balance of power. Because that would be catastrophic, they truly believe it.

Look at what Musk is achieving in Germany, literally trying to revive the Nazi movement there. And it's working.

Y'all ignore this crap or hope for the best at your peril.

The people here in the USA are aware that if we lose this fight y'all will be next in line. Protect yourselves before they poison your neighbor's minds, because that part of this struggle is very problematic.

Weaponized propaganda is not free speech and needs to be banished at some point, or we're all doomed.

u/PacinoWig 1d ago

It's a good point. Back then they didn't have Fox News to tell them over and over again that their cultural resentments were more important than their economic interests.

u/SelectButton4522 22h ago

Farmers are naturally progressive, they have been brainwashed purposefully by media giants. As you mention, Reagan era social engineering still in effect.

u/bigkahuna1uk 20h ago

I’m from the UK but even I can see how Trump is screwing over farmers with his tariffs. First with the soybeans, which made the price too prohibitively expensive for China, who are the main consumers of that crop. So now China is buying predominantly from Brazil. Same thing with beef exports. Trump is now flooding the American market with Argentinian beef in order to try to keep a lid on the inflation his tariffs have caused on beef prices. Yet those same farmers will probably dogmatically still vote for him in the midterms and beyond. It’s the very definition of voting against your own interests.

u/Visual_Exam7903 20h ago

Technically Farmers voted democrat until the Civil Rights Bill was passed.

u/novahawkeye 23h ago

And they don’t even know it’s socialism. This country needs a serious discussion about the meaning of socialism. We already are and always have been a socialist democracy.

u/OhGr8WhatNow 23h ago

80% of farm subsidies go to the top 10%, which are all giant conglomerates. The bottom 60% get nothing.

Small Farmers get nothing, but they believe the propaganda that the subsidies will ever somehow be for them, so they keep voting this.

u/Visual_Exam7903 20h ago

The small farmers get enough to be slightly below breaking even. Each year they lose a llittle control of their ownership.

u/BusterOfCherry 23h ago

That's maga, not for you but ok for me.

u/SelectButton4522 22h ago

More like, everyone is fine with socialism when it touches them.

u/Visual_Exam7903 20h ago

Not just that. Farmers are too dumb to realize that those DOJ antitrust cases, are never going to be real. It is just something Trump's administration says. They are never going to do it. Look at their donor lists.

u/theBloodShed 14h ago

That’s true of all Republicans. From the rich getting corporate tariff refunds or PPP ”loans” to the poor getting food stamps and medicaid. The only just socialism is THEIR socialism.

u/SignoreBanana 8h ago

They're all fine with socialism if it's for them. This whole stupid fucking beef thing is socialism.

u/MamaSwanky 1d ago

Better pull himself up by those bootstraps of his .

u/wrecklesspup 23h ago

Boot straps are only for minorities.

u/Sad-Bread5843 Goober who thinks both sides are equally as bad 1d ago

No sympathy for these people they voted for this for their hate and bigotry , they earned every second of this shit

u/MyrrhSlayter 23h ago

Right? Everyone who voted blue, voted to save their farms and when we lost they laughed with their 'cry more liberal tears!!!!'. Maga literally voted against keeping their farms and mocked us when our plan to save them failed.

Trump screwed them his 1st term and then gave them all a huge fucking bailout, so they voted for him again for another bailout. Except Trump doesn't need them anymore cause he's gonna use his gestapo, fear, and friends to rig the elections for years to come for his side.

And they come at us with their 'but you're the party of acceptance, you have to help us!!". Except we don't. We accept people who are decent and caring and can't find acceptance because of religion, race, creed, or sexual orientation. It is not a carte blanche acceptance to be abused, threatened, and mocked by Maga at every turn. People are DYING because they voted with their greedy, piggy hearts.

So no, no one cares they might have to pack their shit and leave their homes. No one cares that farmers are disenfranchised when people have lost their lives and families because of them. No one cares that farmer 'Go Fuck Yourself Libs' might have to get a job picking their neighbors crops for pennies on the dollar when children are turning up pregnant in concentration camps because of rape by ICE officers.

We tried to help you once and you showed us who you really are. And we don't help monsters pull themselves out of the trap they willingly walked into because they were promised a check.

u/carbon_made 9h ago

Couldn’t have happened to nicer people…

u/Motorrad_Make_Happy 1d ago

I guess it’s time to sell your 3rd tractor or dip
Into your savings

u/agentSmartass 1d ago

Buy less dolls

u/colcatsup 1d ago

The kids don’t need more than 2 pencils ✏️ iirc.

u/agentSmartass 22h ago

Who needs pencils when we got Grok.

u/Squidlips_69 1d ago

*fuhrer

u/JonZ82 1d ago

*Trump Coins

u/xXx420BlazeRodSaboxX 21h ago

Just stop buying coffee every morning and you'll be fine

u/TheMirrorWisdom 1d ago edited 1d ago

These are the people who were convinced that if our government dispatched masked mercenaries around the country to harass dark-skinned people, Trump was going to conjure rainbows with pots of gold for the "real Americans". You can't be that hateful and that gullible, expecting pity you wouldn't show others.

Fun fact, Mr Farmer: the rest of us have already accepted what your decisions at the voting booth have brought to pass. We are preparing for the potential end. Our government has been overrun by apocalyptic/genocidal billionaires; all because you thought a gold-plated, pedophile Messiah was going to make you rich.

But..you expect pity when your welfare-subsidized farm is going belly up?

u/Squidlips_69 1d ago

Typical trump: Blame it on "price gouging" and not the stupidity of tariffs and an unnecessary war. Sue people, try to throw money at it but never admit you screwed up.

u/SquirrelsinJacket 1d ago

Yup, the guy is just evil.

u/echolm1407 1d ago

Sounds like they need to do it the organic way.

u/Prodigalsunspot 1d ago

Hey, I know you thought that there was no way the diasterous trade war Trump engaged with China in his first term that forced a huge bailout of the soybean industry which still has not recovered couldn't possibly be repeated at a larger scale....but at least the brown people are scared, amiright?

u/Difficult_Cold_8080 1d ago

Have the day you voted for.

u/VALO311 17h ago

Unfortunately people who didn’t vote for it are having that same day.

Yet when people they don’t vote for do good things to help them. These right wing idiots still complain.

u/ehalright 12h ago

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing."

u/oooKILROYooo 23h ago

Two questions:

  1. Who did you vote for
  2. Who WILL you vote for next election

u/toasterpocket 1d ago

Phew, good job you guys didn't alienate all of your trading partners whilst trying to rip us off with your tariffs, so we can run to your aid. Oh, wait....

u/PuzzleheadedVast4502 23h ago

They sit in their tractors, combines, and trucks for hours every day listening to right wing radio. After decades of that they are completely brainwashed. Forty years of propaganda and hate mongers and here we are mirroring the fascists we fought in WWII.

u/finalsolution1 1d ago

Wars ma chek?

u/pineapplepizza8705 1d ago

As an Iowan, tough shit. You get what you vote for.

u/LiminalSapien 1d ago

I don’t know why anyone would feel bad for these rural geniuses.

When you see them say things like ‘that’s not even doable’ the reason they sound exhausted is because they’re just tired from all the winning.

They might be a little tuckered out when the bank comes to take their farm but don’t worry, those are just liberal tears they’ll be crying so they don’t count.

🙃

u/ScrauveyGulch 1d ago

Aw....poor welfare queen.

u/ShaChoMouf 1d ago

Hidden Easter egg in the report: the last cow shown has a nametag that says her name is "Not Sure" -- which is the name of the protagonist in the movie Idiocracy.

u/Ready4Rage 1d ago

The birds in the background seem happy about it

u/spidyman63 1d ago

They got what they voted for

u/Glittering-Sky1601 23h ago

Please excuse my ignorance, but why aren't they planting nitrogen-fixing crops during the fall/winter instead of buying nitrogen fertilizer?

u/Fantastic_Key_8906 18h ago

Shouldn't have splooged out on all those avacado toasts. And 40-50 dolls.

u/MattheWWFanatic 1d ago

When all you do is raise crops, you don't have manure to put on the field. Gotta chase those high yields though.

u/jxonair 17h ago

Have the day you voted for.

u/Glum_Opening_2218 1d ago edited 1d ago

118 TONS of fertilizer? I don't farm so obviously it's an extremely different scale, but Jesus Christ by mulching and mulching alone I can keep my vegetable garden having good healthy productive soil.

What the fuck are you doing to your soil that you need to inject literal TONS of nitrogen, regenerative farming is the future.

u/Separate-Pain4950 1d ago

Iowan here: Mono culture has pissed away in 100 years half the topsoil that took thousands of years to accumulate. They can harvest one corn crop without added fertilizer. Every corn crop after that won’t be anywhere close to yielding the maximum bushel per acre. They painted them selves in a corner relying on foreign produced fertilizers. They will be having the day they voted for. Take your medicine, Iowa corn growers.

u/witchspoon 1d ago

Corn, for instance sucks nitrogen right out of the soil. Things like beans replace it but that’s not a crop that is subsidized/highly profitable.
I’m guessing there’s not enough composted cow poop to use on their fields either.

But also fertilizer is affected by someone’s tariffs with Canada.

u/Bender_2024 1d ago

I’m guessing there’s not enough composted cow poop to use on their fields either.

I'm no expert but it seems unlikely that someone who is using that much fertilizer is also raising cattle. You would do one or the other. Not both.

u/witchspoon 15h ago

There’s cows in the video.

u/Bender_2024 13h ago

I stand corrected.

u/witchspoon 13h ago

But I doubt they have saved/composer enough to use effectively either way.

u/GreatPlainsFarmer 16h ago

How many tons of compost are you applying to your garden on a per-acre basis? A 100’ by 100’ garden is about a quarter acre. He’s applying a couple hundred pounds or so of that fertilizer per acre, or 50ish lbs per 100’ by 100’ square.

How many tons of vegetables are you producing per acre on a dry matter basis?

The average acre of Iowa corn is producing more plant material than an average garden by an order of magnitude. Veggies dry down pretty light when you take out the water. You don’t get much off an acre on a dry matter basis.

You don’t need much fertilizer because you’re not removing a lot of plant material from your garden. He’s removing several tons per acre of grain.
Those nutrients need to be replaced in order to not deplete the soil.

u/Joeli0n 1d ago

“You knew damn well I was a snake before you took me in!” DJT

u/HawkeyeByMarriage 1d ago

Good thing Cheeto picked a fight with Canada where fertilizer comes from

u/SnooPears2373 23h ago

Super awesome that my tax dollars are paying for Trump's non-stop f ups. Especially the fact that those tax dollars go toward the same people who voted Trump because it made their racist pee-pees get hard.

u/Neighborhood_watch27 20h ago

Doesn't anyone see this is a planned land grab? As well as a plan to sew chaos into our society and turn our citizens against each other? Isn't it obvious yet?

u/jkurology 18h ago

How much does the US government pay farmers to grow corn…somewhere between 2 and 5 billion dollars a year in one form or another.

u/Sad-Pay5915 1d ago

Monopoly’s are opposite of free markets

u/S0undpl0t 20h ago

This is all by design. A feature the 4D chess they all misunderstood is that now their farms will be purchased at pennies (or now nickels being that pennies are no longer minted) on the dollar by billionaires. The plan is working perfectly

u/BroadMonk5649 20h ago

Ya well maybe you should grow alphalpa

u/Late-Arrival-8669 19h ago

Dont care about the farmers, they made their bed.

Do not think for a second, this administration cares about collusion either.

This is either about enriching someone, or destroying the country. I cannot make the distinction but its one of these..

u/MaliciousIntentWorks 17h ago

Sorry framers but those same fertilizer companies that are price gouging you donated heavily into Trump's campaign and personal finance. Any "investigation" is just bs lip service. It's a pay to play administration and they paid and now your getting played.

u/Antique-Freedom-7891 16h ago

He's thinking "Damn Biden"

u/malarkial 16h ago

This is what happens when you are powered by hate. You vote for the hate master and secretly hope he watches this clip to bail you out while he fucks the whole ass country…and world.

u/malarkial 16h ago

Farmers want those military bail outs! Military in the US is socialism. As is the government workers. The gulag for the rest of us.

u/falloutwinter 7h ago

Well... To bad. Pull yourself up by those bootstraps

u/ckr0610 1d ago

If only they hadn’t been brainwashed by their family, Fox News, and farming “culture” for lack of a better word for decades. Farmers consistently benefit from subsidies aka socialism but they’re too blind to see it and start to vote for their own interests.

u/Time_Pop_2762 1d ago

The cow not sure is going through its own idiocracy

u/HaxanWriter 1d ago

“iT’s ThE fAuLt Of ‘DeM LiBs!”

I love watching these magat fuck bastards auger into the desert floor from 10,000 feet.

Hey. Even the dinosaurs screamed when they went extinct.

u/delaydude 1d ago

Sorry but I hope this fucker lives out the rest of his days in a dank alleyway chained to a bottle.

u/BothMath314 1d ago

Cheer up bud! At least you're owning the libs.

u/americanhero01 23h ago

Proud GOP voter. Scammed for life, and loving it.

u/Soft_Eggplant_370 23h ago

It's genuinely a fucking shame that idiot voted for that.

u/deadlyne 23h ago

Idiocracy reference 🤌

u/nurdmann 23h ago

They're just mining the topsoil at this point.

u/Own-Opinion-2494 22h ago

Sounds like our local HVAC companies

u/evil_illustrator2 22h ago

government isnt going to do shit about the fertilizer industry. they'll just give the pedophile gifts, then suddenly all the investigations will disappear.

u/MotorBarnacle2437 22h ago

The farm will be there. He won't.

u/Responsible-Fun-5566 21h ago

these welfare queen farmers better pull themselves up by their bootstraps. 0% sympathy for them. They voted for this.

u/Coffee-pepper 21h ago

What's stopping them from using other sources to fertilize their crops?

I wouldn't be sitting around waiting for the government to help me; I'd be researching other avenues to feed my crop.

For example, for future crops, the German method called hugelkuktur. This worked wonders for my gardens, but it does take planning and 1 year prior to build it up and let it "ferment". But once it's ready, it lasts for years!

I'm pretty sure there are dozens of alternatives available to farmers rather than just fertilizer; cover crops, compost, animal manure, etc...

P

u/GreatPlainsFarmer 11h ago

That increased his overall costs by about $30-40/acre. Since that video was filmed, the value of his corn crop has increased $120-180/ acre.

He can afford the fertilizer.

u/Motorboat81 21h ago

Shocking Trump isn’t doing anything for the American people or the farmers, take that you farmer Whores.

u/Kinetic92 21h ago

They'll still vote republican

u/SlippySausageSlapper 21h ago

I can’t tell if the bigger win here for Russia is that they convinced these morons to vote for their own destruction or that they have convinced all you fine geniuses to laugh at the destruction of the food supply. Laugh it up now.

This won’t be funny in a year.

u/Danilo-11 21h ago

Time to show everybody the famous: “pull yourself up by the bootstraps”

u/FDVP 21h ago

“We investigated ourselves and found no collusion.”

u/Action_Connect 20h ago

Farmers are welfare queens

u/Spiffy-Kujira 16h ago

Is this the same goober that wound up losing his farm and then said he's still gonna vote Republican for the midterms? 🫠

u/StrangeContest4 16h ago

Shit! I know everybody's emotional right now, but I've got a three point plan. You see, we've got this cow, Not Sure, and she's going fix everything! She's going to fix the crops! I give you my word, she's going to fix the tariffs too! I give you my word, she's going to fiiiiiiiiiiiix🎶 the economy...

u/Careless-Comedian859 16h ago

My goat has a 5 point plan and will fix everything better than your cow. Vote Goat! 🐐

u/Different_Umpire9003 12h ago

Who could have possibly seen this coming? It’s almost as if unchecked capitalism causes people to take advantage of their fellow citizens.

u/meczakin81 11h ago

Foo who did you vote for?

u/PuckElectra 10h ago

Once that sweet, sweet bailout money gets paid to him by California and New York, he'll be back to wearing his MAGA hat.

u/DumbDumbHunter 3h ago

The cow in the last shot is named "Not Sure", which might be reference to the character in the movie "Idiocracy". Seems very fitting and hopefully that's why it's named that and why they showed its name

u/OCDDAVID777 1h ago edited 1h ago

They could blame Trump for starting a war his advisers told him would shut down the Hormuz Strait, through which 33% of the nitrogen fertilizer used to travel through.

But nope, it's the fertilizer companies. I'll never understand it. Maybe it's because they love the stimmy checks so much.