I assume its about the discourse of Ariana Grande’s dramatic weight loss and its negative effect on children, pointing out that she is far from the only one.
Yes, society's obsession with body shapes is a continuing problem, but somebody famous being thin OR plus-sized in a healthy way does not make them part of that problem.
Nah lol there’s a lot more obesity than dangerous thinness. Anorexia isn’t a joke but it’s no where near as widespread as hyperphagia. Just easier to pile on people struggling with it.
Anorexia is an extremely, if not the single deadliest, mental health issue a person can deal with. People die from it far faster than they do from obesity because of how quickly malnutrition can impact bones and organs long term on top of the lifelong battle to stay well. While people are certainly bullied for being thin, thin is considered good, healthy, attractive, and appealing so many people pursue it in unhealthy, potentially deadly ways like extreme diets, excessive workouts, medications, supplements, and surgeries.
A very thin person is often perceived as sickly and in need of help, but a very obese person is perceived as a lazy glutton. The bullying for obesity comes with character judgements that impacts the empathy a person receives and their worthiness in the eyes of others in a way that thin people seldom get.
Yep. The deadliest. 18-20% death rate if calculating long term risks within a 20 year window. The closest to the 10 year window anorexia death rate of 5-10% is borderline personality.
I don’t really know what to say. I agree anorexia super sucks and is a mental illness that is super dangerous. I also agree skinny people are way less likely to be bullied for being a lazy glutton. In America at least gluttony tends to mostly be about food I know you can be a glutton for other niceties but yeah rare to see someone with a lot of jewelry being called a glutton I guess. There are enough other things people come at each other for that skinny people are still susceptible though.
Simplifying it to fatness or skinniness is already super reductive. There’s a ton of reasons why one could be skinny or fat and those could overlap or not. Amount of calories stored is the only real connection between things that can be mental, biological, environmental etc etc
I think it’s that and the fact that most of the celebs pictured are thought to have undergone cosmetic surgery to achieve that hollow cheeked/gaunt appearance.
Zendaya and Toyota Chevrolet maybe fit the aesthetic but they just look to be naturally thin with a natural appearance that just fits that aesthetic.
That's it. It's about Ariana getting so much flack but not so much these other people...... Zendaya doesn't belong. She's naturally willowy, but doesn't look emaciated. Timothee is thin and not overly muscular but I wouldn't call him that. He's dating Kylie Jenner.
Including Celine Dion (who doesn't belong anyway as her looks are tied to her actual AI disorder) is one it seems weird to include for me. Not too many young ones out there are queueing up to go see Ms. Vegas Residency. Maybe if this was 25 years ago...
I saw the actual catsuit she wore at the WB studio tour and her proportions are absolutely unfathomable. She's unbelievably tiny. Most women would not fit in that. My estimation is only a thin 10-14 yo girl would.
To be fair, she's like 5'2''. As someone that is also 5'2'' and a healthy weight, most women will not fit into my clothes either. I literally stopped growing at 12. Ariana is a different story.
I'm 5'2 and a size 4 and Id still be about 20+ lbs overweight and maybe in need of an entirely different bone structure, which is why it was astounding. I know plenty of thin women who wouldn't fit in that.
Zendaya is very very thin, if we’re talking about reinforcing the beauty standard of hyper thin, then she absolutely fits.
But I don’t think any of them fit with Ariana grande. Being thin is one thing and not automatically bad, but Grande has a clear eating disorder and her team is gaslighting and guilt tripping the public about it.
Yeah, you can tell by her cheeks thats just how she's built. Im built the same way... 5'10" and high metabolism. Its annoying. Im willing to bet she has zero concerns for the amount of calories she takes in. Her body type is not her fault and she shouldn't be held responsible for it.
When you are actively losing weight by avoiding food, you lose the fat in your cheeks too. That’s why she looks natural. The fat pad in her cheeks are still there, so you can tell she isn’t starving herself. Crazy thing is a lot of people are removing the fat pad these days. Makes them look much older and sicker.
I agree, I don’t think there’s anything wrong with how she looks or is. I’m just saying that she’s fashion model thin. I don’t think it’s 100% natural in that of she weren’t famous, she probably wouldn’t feel pressure to be quite as thin.
Sombr doesn't fit either. He's a tall-ass young man who hasn't filled out yet and his mom has a similar body type. Ariana has lost a sognificant amount of weight when she was already petite and has a history of eating disorders.
to be fair, they’re both models and it wouldn’t be far-fetched to say they have strict dietary guidelines as a result. they have joked in an interview about how they don’t really eat lol. I do agree that their case is dissimilar and they don’t really fit this current heroin-chic trend.
Comparing a model's physique is pointless because that look is their uniform. Like the second person is Alex Consani, a model. If you wanna keep your jobs you gotta wear your uniform
I mean I do think it’s unfair to guilt someone who’s experiencing a mental health issue by putting the weight of the world’s children on them.
I also think it’s a very teachable moment for parents about what eating disorders look like and how even someone as successful, wealthy, and beautiful as Ariana Grande can struggle with feelings of insecurity and body dysmorphia, to the point that they sadly do harm to themselves. Use it as an opportunity to have an open and honest talk with your child about self esteem, insecurity, and healthy eating and exercise; if you don’t that’s not Ariana Grande’s fault, that’s your own failing as a parent.
The only thing I think about when I see Ariana Grande’s weight loss is that I feel bad for her. She’s clearly struggling with something horrible, whether that’s an eating disorder or something up with her health that she doesn’t want to share (there’s a plethora of health issues that can cause sudden drops in weight).
I wouldn’t say Zendaya looks emaciated though, she looks the same level of thinness as Arianna did before she lost loads of weight she just has a smaller bust
Ariana also keeps posting about how unhealthy she was and how she's the healthiest she's ever been - which is a dangerous lie considering how young many of her fans are.
Ariana has an older fanbase than you'd expect by reading their posts online. The audience grew with her basically. I would call her progression to adult themes fairly gradual
She literally has toys of her in the kids doll section. She is for kids because of the projects and merch she has put out- if she didn’t do this stuff I wouldent give a shit-
Just because she played Glinda in wicked (which is also not a children’s movie it is appropriate for kids but definitely not a kids movie and it’s based off of a book that is VERY much inappropriate for kids) does not make her an artist that’s geared towards children. Delusional take
A lot of people not in eating disorder spaces do not know that Ari used to have an eating disorder tumblr wayyyy before she was famous. She knows what she’s doing and the possible impact on others.
Please do lmao because it’s definitely not current merch. Her merch is lighters, keychains, apparel, vinyls etc. and her other brands are makeup and fragrance. Her music is not at all appropriate for children either. The only content of her that is child appropriate is wicked
The dolls body likely isn’t modeled after hers. Mattel rarely makes new body molds for a movie/celebrity doll. They’ll make a head for them sometimes but they’ll just stick it on whatever the current main body mold is.
They are NOW in their 20s, but many of us have children in their 20s. Especially middle aged people commenting on the anorexia in Hollywood these days.
I don’t really understand what you’re trying to say here but these are recent events so yes, a fan base that is currently in their 20s both late and early, is not looking up to her for how they should physically look. Parents need to do a better job of parenting if they have ACTUAL children NOT 20 year old adults that are looking up to ANYONE in Hollywood/media for body goals and whatnot. It seems people would rather shift blame to strangers than just do a better job at parenting…
The 20 year old who was a teenager while Ariana was clearly anorexic would absolutely be impacted by them.
Even the most helicopter parents can't shelter their children from all media. Kids and young adults are more likely to be influenced by it and their peers than anyone else, so yes her experiences have impacts on children.
Anyone who thinks good parenting can solve every issue in childhood is choosing to ignore reality.
This is an embarrassing take and the lack of awareness of what good parenting can and should do for children in this current day and age where there are countless sources of dangerous ideals, messages and beliefs in media tells me that you hopefully do not have kids and never will
If you believe that you can mitigate every exposure your children go through then you either don't have children in a school system, or you are denying the reality of life.
Were you a child? Did you do everything your parents taught you? Did you not make your own decisions that went against your teachings? Have you ever done something because of peer pressure?
Be real because this is real life and you literally cannot control someone by providing better parenting or education.
I didn’t say you can mitigate everything… but honest to god body and beauty ideals is literally the easiest thing to get ahead of as a parent. Sorry that you’re too lazy to do it and want other people to take accountability for how your offspring feels about themselves instead LMFAO
Again with the comment that does nothing to contribute to the conversation. Maybe a little context into what the hell you are talking about would help?
And do you think our children weren't impacted by her anorexia 10 years ago? Do you think young children didn't see her as an icon during her struggles? Also, how can you say she's not marketed towards children?? She's still doing Disney movies
Dr Hartman here, Celine Dionne has an autoimmune disorder that is likely the cause of her appearance. It can make daily living difficult and cause unintended weight loss. The joke is that she should not be the cause of people looking gaunt for fashion
Ariana Grande has recently lost so much weight that she's anorexic. The original poster is pointing out that it's not just Ariana who's unhealthily thin now. The reply is humorously pointing out that Zendaya and Timothee are naturally skinny people. They aren't anorexic
Thank you for saying this. Adding onto what the poster above said: 95% of anorexic people aren’t visibly underweight. Many people who are severely sick with anorexia never get to the point where they look emaciated. It’s fundamentally a psychiatric disorder, even though it has directly medical effects… so you often can’t tell from physical appearance who has it.
-Signed an anorexic who never got to the point of being severely emaciated but has had this disorder for 20 years and is desperately trying to recover now.
It’s a commentary on disordered eating. The top part is saying “why do ppl pick on Ariana grande when all these other celebrities embody the same thing as her” and the bottom part is saying zendaya doesn’t look eating disordered, she’s just tall and timothee chalamet is not eating disordered he’s just a twink. But he’s not so that’s another layer of humor.
The top poster is basically saying people go on about Ariana Grande being too skinny (and blame her appearance for an increase in children's eating disorders), but there are plenty of other celebrities who are concerningly skinny.
The bottom poster is basically saying that Zendaya and Timothee Chalamet don't deserve to be included because they aren't actually concerningly skinny, but they are simply tall and a twink respectively.
Personally I think it's better to make a point about trends in celebrity appearance rather than call out specific women, but I also think Ariana Grande is probably the most visible in terms of this trend, since she has noticeably lost weight recently, and is also possibly the most famous celebrity to be concerningly skinny.
As someone who grew up pretty lanky, some of these people are just naturally low body fat with low muscle mass and the discourse about how dare they show their bodies like it isn’t a bad influence has been really upsetting for me. Every few years we seem to forget that bodies exist on a spectrum. There are a few concerningly intentional thin frames in here, so I understand where the conversation comes from and agree that we should not be idealizing unhealthy weight loss, but every “collection” post I see about this always includes at least one person who has just always been like that, and boy wouldn’t that fuck you up to just be existing and have people turn around and go “you look like a fucking corpse, please stop showing yourself in public?”
People are mad at Ariana Grande because she’s anorexic and a bad role model for young girls who will try to be like her. This poster is saying the problem goes deeper than just her.
I assume most of these people are on Ozempic and the reply is saying Zendaya and Timothee Chalamet aren’t and that’s just how they are naturally, more or less.
Celine Dion actually has an autoimmune illness, so she doesn't really belong here either. I mean, she's thin, but she's thin because she's ill and has been ill for years
It’s all so stupid. Worry about your own body. Raise your own children. Mind your own business. No one is forcing you to be bone skinny just like no one forces you to be bigger.
Yes, but I have a problem when they are marketing it specifically towards children. Arianna has a doll of herself in Walmarts around the nation. She is making money off of children who want to look like her. She’s marketing herself to children- and not caring about the lifelong impact of normalizing her currently unhealthy body. People freaked out over Eugenia Clooney showing up on YouTube kids, how is this different when its on the shelves in stores, the main character of wicked- young girls idolize her and look up to her and want to look like her, and she’s making money off of that while normalizing being a weight that most people don’t live past 30. Eating disorders are highly complex and competitive, she’s aloud to exist, but she also needs to know the ramifications of being a idol and also being a triggering low weight- and also wearing clothing that shows off and highlights that low weight.
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Megan here, Ariana Grande has been criticized a lot lately because of her weight loss which people point out as a bad influence on kids. So the person on the post put together a list of celebrities that also should be criticized because of their unhealthy weight loss (according to them) but the thing is Zendaya and Timothee have thinner body shapes.
Ariana Grande is incomprehensibly skinny right now.. like to the point we can see the majority of her bones.
These other celebrities have suddenly become a LOT thinner (not sure about Sombr as he’s quite new in the scene) and with the rise of this ‘skinny’ movement which is consuming (no pun intended) Hollywood right now, a lot of people are falling into pro-ana/ED territory.
The poster is saying Zendaya and Timmy have always been like this though and are somehow in this collage because Zendaya is tall which makes her proportions look skinnier and supposedly Timmy is a skinny looking twink(?) 😭idk
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OP feels that the public is putting more responsibility on Ariana Grande to set a healthy example for kids after recent extreme thinness. OC does not feel that Zendaya and Timothee should be in the same category as the others because of the qualities mentioned.
Ariana Grande has been at the center of eating disorder conversations because of her dramatic weight loss. She refuses to publicly acknowledge that anything is wrong, this has shifted the conversation to the impact of her being in the public eye and possibly influencing kids to also develop eating disorders. The OOP is trying to say that this issue is bigger than just Ariana Grande by highlighting other incredibly (possibly dangerously so) thin celebrities, but the person replying that they not only included those celebrities but also erroneously included Zendaya and Timothee for being regular thin unlike the others included
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Fair point, actually. I think we focused on Ariana more because she's clearly not a great person inter-socially, besides being ultra-rich like these others.
I notice that in every pic except Demi Moore (only because her dress is covering it) and zendaya, you can actually see their ribs and sternum in these pics. But that doesn’t necessarily mean someone is too lean.
Ariana Grande is getting a ton of backlash for how overly thin she’s become because people are saying it’s bad for her fanbase of mostly young girls to see. The original post is about how the dangerously skinny look is appearing on more celebrities than just Ariana. The point being that it’s not just her perpetuating this.
The comment is saying that Zendaya and Timothee do not fit this description because they’re naturally skinny people. Zendaya has always been tall and skinny. She hasn’t lost a bunch of weight or become unhealthily thin.
We all know someone who look like Zendaya and Timothy. Celine she been skins bones her whole life all the rest has either got the shot or eating disorder
Zendaya and Timmy are naturally slender and haven't done anything to get more thin.
Ariana Grande was also naturally slender and shouldn't have needed Ozempic but still did it an looks ill. So did all the other people in that screenshot but Chalomet and Zendaya
Zendaya is just doll and slim. Same with Somber, he’s like 6’5. Celine Dion has stiff persons syndrome, which I don’t know a whole lot about but I assume it can have some effect on your body’s appearance.
Nah both of them said they don’t eat on set or something to that degree. It just came off really risky given how long scenes and recording can go on for .
Blaming Ariana for body dismorphia while there are countless others with it and simultaneously lumping in actors who simply are tall or skinning in order to prove that HoLlYwOoD is hurting our children.
Majority of the people in this picture are the result of using ozempic (I think) Ariana grande is one of the most famous examples of what can happen if you use this... Drug, can I call ozempic drug? The point is she's not the only one using it, looks like there are people saying she's giving a bad image to kids that later on will wanna use ozempic due to dismorphia, this image shows she's not the only one but Zendaya and Timothy chalamet got tangled into the situation only for being tall and thin respectively, they don't use ozempic as far as we know, Megan out
Celebrities who are dangerously underweight/ anorexic.
The joke is that Zendaya and Timothee don’t belong and are healthy though skinny.
Personally, while I think that applies to Timothee, Zendaya is likely underweight as well, and has talked about “forgetting to eat” and just “not eating” which isn’t a good relationship with food.
am i crazy or do women’s ribcages just show on their chests when they get older?? like that is a normal thing, it doesn’t mean they have eating disorders.
not saying that any of the women in this picture do or don’t, but i think people freak out when they see ribs on chests but that’s a natural part of aging when the boobs begin to drop a bit.
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