Hey folks!

I've been very involved in the Marathon community for a while now, and before that, the Tarkov community. I see plenty of arc raiders and other community suggestions online as well. Even the hate, low sodium, and niche versions of these communities for the different games. I check them all out at least once in a while.

These extraction shooter communities can feel pretty similar. The same worries about player count, the same PVE vs PVP discussions, hardcore-ness, new player experience. And the same wildly differing opinions on the direction for the game.

I wanted to figure out how people playing the same games could have such opposite opinions on these things. So I spent a lot of time thinking about it, checking out these communities, and chatting with some folks in the industry. The result is this video. You may recognize one of the top posts from this community as its centerpiece!

P.S.

I bought a buddy a copy of Marathon recently and did an interview with him on his first 10 hours with the game. He said he had ZERO negative experiences with entirely crew fill squads. Instead, people dropping him gear, teaching him the game, and asking to group up. Going to release a refined version of the whole thing later this week. But the whole experiment made me really proud to be part of this awesome community!

FILE TYPE: Archived Recording
PERIOD: Colony Era
SPEAKERS: Hassan, M. [MHAS]
TOPIC: UESC Reinterpretation Campaign
SUMMARY: Dr. Mari Hassan records a statement addressing colonist concerns.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dClhJZ1lwCM

Lucky number lol

What even is the motivation for making in game events inconsistent? So you're telling me in a successful, 15-25 minute match, I may not even be able to do the only event which has a good chance of a gold cryo key for that map.

The crazy thing is, the events are quite dangerous and pretty mid reward. If you want to be able to farm a specific kind of loot, a specific event should be consistently able to. matches take too long to need to requeue over and over for an event.

Not sure if anyone else does the same thing or is it just me.

I managed to get rid of people by using the extraction antenna. I get in to start 10 secs countdown while my mates continue fighting. one or two players come at me to kill me and knife me down. I die but the clock hits zero and they get flushed out of the map. the third enemy gets killed in 2 vs 1. then one of my mates revives me.

i did that already 3 times during the 2 weeks i have been playing the game lol. fun stuff

Also, gawd dog it did these colonists litter.

Bungie's Marathon actually got me into running:)

I hate how much I love this game I really do but I truly believe it deserved better.

For starters yes it’s quite fun but I personally just don’t mesh with extraction shooters especially when I play on my own I love the world of marathon I love the art style the gunplay everything I just wish it wasn’t a extraction.

If I’m being honest I wish they went the doom route and revitalised the franchise through the same way doom did in 2016, with a story mode. I know it’s too late now and we are getting a pve next season which I’m looking forward to I just hope one day we may get a story mode that isn’t just quests that once you do one half you get jumped by three teams (skill issue Ik)

I swear I catch someone this way every time I hit this key room.

Title. This is either a bug or something that was intentional but everytime I reboot an ally they don’t have the extra health like they’d get from a normal revive.

We did end up wiping lobby. Oh boy, this was fun when it happened though.
#Marathon #MarathonClips u/MarathonTheGame u/MarathonDevTeam

I usually play triage and sentinel. I’ve been on a GENERATIONAL LOSING streak so I decided to switch from my two beloved and HOLY MOLY THE SHMOOVEMENT IS AMAZING. I just clutched and finally won a match thanks to the double jump. Hopefully my husbands don’t mind 🤞🫦.

Vandal is release now ;)
Check it in my makerworld (link in profil)

Anyone else from EU can't seem to find any game at the moment? Waiting 14 minutes now and counting

After having my previous 2 prestige keys ganked (no matter how quiet and careful I was), I finally got my first prestige vault. Too bad I’m about to have all this deleted in 2 weeks 😢😢

I don't like cyac but I do love my dear friend Oni

Super funny editing and really good quality

Video by YouTuber glytchie

This is the second post I made about this guy, this guy was a legend. Encountered him last week but I'm only just now getting to posting it.

lack of maps and content will suck but there’s always going to be a small number of players who like what already exists and want to keep playing it. I am one of those people. I will always enjoy rook 1v3ing or cryo archive runs.

Every time I no-reg somebody, I am tempted to drop the game instantly. Lost a run to mizzy no-regs earlier and just lost one to goddamn Firestorm no-reg’ing a destroyer at point blank range. All my shit gone, not due to skill problems, but because the netcode decreed it so.

“Oh the mizzy ones were because you were out of range” then make that clearer to the user. simple fix, either an indicator for a hit being out of range or a sound or SOMETHING to clarify that I was just two pixels too far for the shotgun pellets to count.

Hi,

For starters, love the game, totally!

I'm trying to learn maps and tactics etc and get into the game effectively. I get the overall play style, but I can't help but get absolutely slammed or progress myself in a meaningful way, even in the " beginner" maps.

I know "skill issues" and random squad fills don't help, but is there a way I can learn or level/progress alternative to the. Queue in, try to learn, head sheered off by synchronized sniper rifle shots, lol.

I'm not here to complain and I'm not giving up, I'd just like to be better and I'm not getting anywhere with so many sweats. no hate to them, they earned it! but I can't compete or progress with gold/purp teams being a " trying to learn noob".

I know it's lame, but I appreciate any feedback.

I have seen this misinformation taken as fact by so many people, I need to make it clear: the WEAVEmaster title MUST be earned in ONE SEASON.

The challenge description is “In any season, evolve your cradle 7 times and reach level 70.”

To put it another way, the challenge is satisfied when you: reach the final stage of the final evolution of the cradle. Numerically, this means having 77 available cradle points. You’ve reached Evolution 7, and you’ve reached level 70.

to be clear; you do not get the reward of the title when you evolve for the 7th time. The 7th evolution actually has NO reward - until you hit level 70 on that Evolution. That debunks the theory that “it’s /1 because the skins are the progress bar”

Further data to support this:
The progress bar is /1, with no way to track how close to your 7th evolution + Level 7 you are from the total.

Many people argue that the codex will not be reset next season. This is correct. This is why the title is a /1 and not an /8 that you can make progress towards over multiple seasons.

Further and most damning! The TITLE UNLOCK DESCRIPTOR for the title drops the “In any season,” language — the language that is the entire opposing theory rests on.

JUST like the only other PRESTIGE title in the game, PROFITEER, WEAVEmaster is NOT cumulative.

Finally, some people may argue that “evolution points will stay post wipe” to which I must insist they will not.

Removing one of the core gear-dump endgame goals for the most dedicated players (those who’ve earned weavemaster) while simultaneously giving them an additional 7 points of Evolution right off the bat allowing them to hit rank 77 on Day 1 would be antithetical to the basic idea of the reset, which is to give endgame players something to do again and allow new players a somewhat even playing ground.

YES I know Bungie made this same mistake before but they’ve acknowledged that and would certainly not be foolish enough to build an entire system around permanently empowering it’s highest playtime players while simultaneously removing one of their largest goals when entering a new season.

To be clear, this “goal” is the entire purpose of loot once a player reaches a full vault and has completed the endgame activities. Resetting your cradle is essentially a self inflicted micro wipe. I believe people believe they’ll stick around because of the Arc Raiders expeditions, but they must realize that expeditions are the only type of wipe Arc has.

Please try to poke holes in my theory in the comments as I’m positive I will be able to refute any of it!

My final thought:
If WM were a cumulative skin, they’d essentially be guaranteeing that season 7 of the game every day one player has it. Regardless of player count that’s just not good game design to offer such a prestige title simply for emptying your vault to the worm and resetting at hour 0 every season.