r/EDH 26d ago

Social Interaction "So are you going to follow the rules?" "Dude, I don't care"

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I had the weirdest interaction today.

One player was playing [[Flubs, the fool]], it doesn't matter what the rest of the table was playing for this story.

So he's doing the thing all Flubs players do and taking a gazzillion game actions to maybe flip into one that finally matters.

At one point he says "I cast [[Noxious revival]] putting Card Y (can't even remember what it was) on top of my library and I draw it with Flubs, then..." at this point I cut him off by pointing out that's not how it works because the draw trigger from Flubs would happen before his card was put on top.

I shit you not, he deadpan goes "Dude, I don't care" and tried to move on. I interject again saying "You cannot do that, you are literally breaking the rules. If we're not following the rules I might as well dump my hand on the board without paying for my cards".

I look at the other two players in the pod as they are silent, asking "Are you guys really okay with just letting this guy break the rules?" and they just shrugged.

I asked him one more time "So you're really just going to break the rules?" and when he kept playing, I just cleaned my board and told everyone this wasn't worth my time.

Randoms gonna random.

Edit: It has been brought to my attention that a shitpost about this story has been made "from the other player's perspective". People are taking the bait hook, line, and sinker.

r/EDH Jul 07 '26

Social Interaction How do I explain that mana weaving is cheating

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One of the people at the LGS I work at got called out for mana weaving, debate as to whether or not it was cheating got heated because apparently another player at the table also did it, and eventually I got called off the desk to help.

I'm really not good at rule-speak, so I only managed to calm it down by basically insinuating that if the group didn't quiet down I was going to kick them out.

For my future reference; how is the best way to clearly explain that mana weaving is cheating?

r/EDH Sep 24 '25

Social Interaction First actual bad experience at the LGS. Why is politics in everything.

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I also have to ask, i know Jack is a straight up ass hole. But am i also the AH in this situation?

I've been playing magic since Beta and Unlimited packs were on the store shelves still. I took a long break during college and my 20's but came back about 10 years ago. While I've had my fair share of annoying people or people with a chip on their shoulder I wouldn't consider any of them truly negative till yesterday.

I bounce around to a few stores throughout the week but this happened at the main store i normally play at. I'm sitting down with someone i normally play with. Were friends in the sense we like to play together but not like "come over to my house or hang out" type of friends outside of the store. This persons name is Sky and she is trans.

Were waiting for others, a new player sits down with us then a few minutes later another player I've seen a few times sits down to be our forth. Well call them Jill and Jack. While the game was nothing special just a normal battle cruiser game what Jack did was beyond anything I've ever experienced from anyone while playing magic.

Jack easily had 100+ power on the board with trample and haste. Nothing any of us could do about it. Jack starts looking at life totals and its clear that two of us are dead but one person will remain as he does not have enough to get all of us.

Jack starts his "Humm who should i kill" He's looking at what we have and board state then it happens he looks at me and is like "Who did you vote for?"

Me: "What's that have to do with anything? Just attack who you think is the biggest threat."

Jack: "Nah, I'm definitely going to attack you and He surely didn't vote for trump since he's one of them so ill attack him too" (Referring to Sky)

Right after that i could see how uncomfortable Sky was, the new player is kind of just looking at the floor like "WTF did i just hear" and I'm still trying to pick my jaw up off the table for what i just heard.

I went off on the guy. I tell him to STFU and that shit is not cool or welcome here. I'm straight up yelling at the guy to pack his shit up and GTFO. Thankfully other tables heard what he said and it was clear to him he had no others who were going to back him up on his BS. I'm bitching him out the whole time he's putting his stuff away. The LGS owner came over to see what was going on. Jack wouldn't explain anything to the owner and i was so heated at this point i couldn't do anything other than continuing to tell Jack to GTFO.

I've never seen someone pack up so quickly. He grabbed his stuff and was gone in under a minute. I did calm down and explain everything to the owner. Jack will never be allowed back but i also got a warning after from the owner to just bring things like that to him and he'll take care of it. I apologized to him and the people that were playing last night.

We finished the game as if Jack never existed. Jill rolled us both with an unstoppable flying army of 1/1 fairy tokens buffed to 10/10's.

Edit: Thanks everyone for your kind words. I don't tolerate that BS and I'll be sure if it ever happens again at the table to handle it a bit better rather than possibly ruining other peoples night's by yelling.

r/EDH Aug 02 '26

Social Interaction Casual Does Not Mean Banned Cards Are Allowed

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Earlier today, I was playing with a pod. Everything was going well, until someone decided to play [[Griselbrand]]. I said, “Wait, dude, that’s banned.” The guy responded with, “It’s casual, it’s ok.” He then bought a card for the deck, and played Gris again. I was like, “Replace that with the card you just bought, easy switch.” He said no. I ended up winning, but, that’s not the point. The point is, the banlist, even apart from bracket discussion, should be the foundation on which one constructs decks.

I mean, in Monopoly, can I just casually rob the bank? No, that’s frowned upon.

Anyways, I’ll take a burger, fries, and a Diet Coke.

r/EDH 7d ago

Social Interaction Talking like you're on game knights is an amazing bit

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Give a chipper cutaway interview for any random play. "Pablo just dropped an arcane signet on turn two, he can already add any color of mana he wants AND accelerate to bigger cards earlier!"

Deploy this one responsibly, it's a fine line between funny and grating

r/EDH May 29 '25

Social Interaction ...but she's a GIRL?!

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Kind of gross interaction I had last night.

I'm at my LGS for commander night and I get paired up in my random pod-- me, a guy who I had played with a few times who I liked, some guy I had never played with, and some girl I had never played with.

Me and the two guys make it to the table first and sit down. Guy who I had never played with immediately starts trying to make it a game where we get to pick out his deck, neither of us are into it. The girl sits down in the last spot next to him, and he immediately shuts up, goes super shy, and just picks a deck. Went from super chatty to almost saying nothing the entire game other than announcing cards he's playing.

Game starts and it's looking like a decent game for the most part. Still high life totals, no clear winner yet. Girl is playing [[Syr Konrad, the Grim]] and not doing great but she's not exactly losing either. She has Konrad but not anything to do with him yet. It gets to her turn with Konrad still in play, drops a [[Cabal Coffers]], and then attempts to cast [[Morality Shift]]. There's a short table discussion where me and the guy I know say this is definitely going to end the game and we should do something about this. She even says that yeah, if that resolves the game is over.

We move in turn priority-

  • Shy guy, no blue mana open: "No responses."
  • Other guy: "I'm tapped out, nothing I can do."
  • Me: "I [[Swords to Plowshare's]] Konrad."

Shy guy perks up and says "wait what? She's a GIRL though!?" and the entire table and the two tables next to us just kind of stops and gives him a WTF look. After a short pause I jokingly say "well, in that case, I swords Konrad." He nervously laughs a little and proceeds to [[Flare of Denial]] my swords.

The whole table, again, looks at him in shock for a second but it happens. She casts Morality Shift, flips an Eldrazi, shuffles twice, and wins. Shy guy is basically all "sorry, not sorry" as we shuffle up for game two.

Game two shy guy pulls out his group hug deck and basically spends the entire game white knighting her. He's super confident now and trying to chat up the entire table and always commenting on her board state. It's super weird, she's uncomfortable, and there isn't a game three.

Kicker: The winner of game 1 gets $2 store credit which you can use on drinks/snacks. After we say no thanks to game 3, shy guy/white knight proudly says he won her the game and basically meant he bought her a drink. She laughed it off and basically looks like she couldn't leave the store fast enough.

r/EDH Jul 30 '26

Social Interaction Game store random tore up his Decree of Annihilation after we said we would just ignore it and continue playing

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I didn't think I'd ever encounter this sort of silliness in real life

Playing a bracket 3 game (discussed before starting each game, second game with this pod of 4).

Mono red player says before his turn that he has a wrath, as I had about 10 buffed soldier tokens out on turn 8 or so, cool. Starts his turn casts [[Final Fortune]], begins second turn taps out for [[Decree of Annihilation]].

Ok...I look at other two players and ask if they want to let it go or just keep playing since we all thought this was a bracket 3, we all agree and mono red player starts complaining about how "one stupid card makes it bracket 4" and rips up his Decree of Annihilation...

Doesn't pick up his cards, so I politely murder him on my next combat step along with the rest of the table.

Guess I should have expected salt after he scooped to 2 (of about 15 he had on the battlefield) elves being removed the prior game.

r/EDH Feb 07 '26

Social Interaction LGS player tells me that he will never play with me or any of my friends again.

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I would just like a sanity check about my deck I played with last night. The pod was a random pod I joined last night while I was solo, and they needed a fourth. This player, who I will call Dan (not his name), is someone I've played against before once and I thought it went well. Dan says that we are playing bracket 2 optimized.

The pod was [[Ms. Bumbleflower]] [[Hylda of the Icy Crown]] [[Maralen, Fae Ascendant]] -dan [[Mazzy, Truesword Paladin]] - me

This was followed by an extensive rule zero conversation where I was asked these questions.

  1. Does your deck have game changers? - no
  2. How does your deck win? - combat
  3. Do you have darksteel mutation effects? -no (I kinda giggled weird question)
  4. When are you planing to win? - whenever I get enough auras to kill people.
  5. Do you have tutors. - like 2.
  6. Like 5 other questions I don't remember.

Its about turn 8 and I swing my commander for 20 damage at dan with trample because he has now cast 3 spells for free of the top my my library. He trys to [[beast within]] my commander and I redirected it with [[Untimely Malfunction]] to target his commander. He picks up his cards starts screaming at me that this is exactly what happened last time when he played [[Voja, Jaws of the Conclave]] against me and my two buddies killed him first. That I play cringe decks, and he will never play with me or any of my buddies again. Told his duo that he's going to go sit outside and that he's done for the night. While leaving, he tells me that it's very unpleasant to play against my deck and that hes going to tell the front desk. I would also like to point out that my stuff was getting perma stunned by the hylda deck but I didnt really care.

Decklist: https://archidekt.com/decks/6152764/mazzy_queen_of_auras

TLDR: verbally accosted in the game store for plying the deck list above and told me that I would never play with again and that he would tell the front desk.

r/EDH Dec 19 '25

Social Interaction Is it mean to land destruction someone after they use a pact?

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We were about 20 minutes into a B3 game at my LGS, turn 7, 1 player was out. The last 3 were me, playing [[Jhoira or the Ghitu]], the object of the story, who was playing [[Yuriko]], and another player, who was running [[Sythis]] and damn near dead.

I had been mana screwed most of the game, so I had suspended [[Sphinx of the Second Sun]] with Jhoira as a last ditch "get some value on the field" play. When it came out, the Yuriko player [[Pact of Negation]]'d it. In response, I cracked my [[Strip Mine]] to kill one of their lands, leaving them insufficient mana to pay for it and passed the turn to them [I had nothing I wanted to do at sorcery speed], causing them to lose the game.

They were very not happy, and scooped up their deck and stormed out after a brief tirade about how "that was a bitch move" and the like. I don't feel like I did anything wrong, the land destruction was clearly visible on the field and they had exactly 5 lands, I'd never have pacted there. I saw a line for an easy win and I took it.

r/EDH Sep 18 '25

Social Interaction This "Vigilance Scam" killed the vibes for me.

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Hey folks,

I wanted to share one of the first times I ever dropped out of a game at my LGS because I just wasn’t vibing with the group.

Here’s the key moment in a nutshell: An opponent had just attacked with a creature. It was tapped—even though it had Vigilance (nobody noticed at the time). On my turn, I attacked them since they had no blockers. After I declared attackers, they suddenly go, “Oh wait, my creature has Vigilance,” untap it, and declare it as a blocker.

I told them, “Sure, go ahead and untap it—but then I’m taking back my attack,” since my creature would just get blocked and die anyway. They said it was too late for that because I’d already declared attackers... So I replied, “Well, it’s also too late to untap your Vigilance creature, since you missed that earlier.” Then they argued that they never had the option to tap it, while I did have the choice to attack or not. The other players backed them up, and that’s when I decided to pack up and leave.

Was he technically right by the rules?
Honestly, regardless of that, the whole situation just felt off and poorly handled.

r/EDH May 23 '26

Social Interaction Opponent got salty because they scooped thinking their infinite win then the game and it didn’t. Thoughts?

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Playing a b2/3 game with one person I know well and 2 randoms from the LGS.

One of the people I didn’t know was on atraxa, and I was playing [[giada, font of hope]]

My opponent uses a [[food chain]] combo with [[eternal scourge]] and some other creature (I can’t remember the name) to kill us all infinitely and starts picking up his cards.

It’s important to mention I asked him multiple times “how do I die” because I had a [[herald of eternal dawn]] in hand with enough open mana to cast it. My opponent kept saying “to mill and picking up his cards”

I then declared “on your end step” and cast my herald. My opponent started saying “you should have made it more clear you had something I already picked up all my cards and I dont know if I could have done something else” and “then ill just cast this before my ends step and make you draw” to which I replied that I had asked him to clarify how I lost, and I wasn’t letting him go back to main to cast a sorcery to make me draw when that clearly wasn’t his original plan until he knew I had herald.

For more context I had [[aettir and priwen]] and [[souls attendant]] on board, so his mana combo gave me a ridiculous life total and I represented lethal to him on board

IMO he got to hasty and should have made sure his win resolved before scooping up his cards, but I would love to hear other opinions.

TLDR; opponent used an infinite mill combo and started picking up his cards before he verified that we all lost, then got mad when I didn’t, would love opinions

r/EDH Jan 03 '26

Social Interaction Rude to Nuke a Sol Ring?

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Was playing some EDH last night at an LGS and dude had put a Sol Ring down turn 1, on turn 2 he put an Orcish Bowmasters down, another player had played a Rhystic Study on the turn 2 before him and he enlightened us that he could ping anyone on the Rhystic triggers which I took as a veiled threat they would not pay the one so they could then shoot whoever they liked so when it came around to my turn I attempted to Mizzium Mortars his Bowmaster, which he responded to by making it hexproof. So I was like okay I tried 🤷‍♂️, next turn I topdecked a Kologhan’s Command and decided to shoot the Bowmasters and Destroy the Ring. He then said “That’s a lot isn’t it?” to the table like I was some bad guy for trying to remove his Draw Pinger and Army Engine. I told him that he basically threatened us that he would be shooting us with the Bowmaster on every Rhystic trigger and I did try to remove it before with the Mortars and so I had to use a 2nd removal which ended up also hitting his Sol Ring, he just grumbled and kinda was weird to me the rest of the night. Was I in the wrong? I really didn’t think I was being rude, I was just trying to respond to a perceived threat.

r/EDH Dec 06 '24

Social Interaction EDH GIVE AWAY SEEING RED HAPPY HOLIDAYS 2024 EDITION!

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r/EDH Aug 01 '26

Social Interaction I got my first insane person game today!

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Hello everyone! I am new commander player, I played my 7th game today, my first 3 games were 1v1 with a friend who explained stuff to me. I played a 4 player game today, with my brand new Hosts of Mordor precon. I love Tolkien, so I had to get it. I also changed 2 cards in it, one of which is [[Anger]], because I needed it for my Isshin/Zurgo deck, and I heard this precon is quite strong so I thought it would lower the power.

Anyway, we're good 40 mins into the game, and its all fun, but one guy is acting a bit weird, but since nobody else is reacting to it, I assumed its just me and ignored it. But then I played [[Shelob, Dread Weaver]]. The guy rushes away from the table, and starts screaming to put it away. Im confused and ask whats going on, and hes screaming at me to get that f***ing spider off the table. So i turned it upside down, and say Im sorry, I didnt know he has arachnophobia, and I will keep it hidden.

No you have to put it away in your deckbox, I dont want it anywhere near me. So I, still stunned, take it and put it away, and ask for a card draw then, to make it fair. No u cant. Im like ok fine whatever, though I was a bit annoyed, I was punished for something I dont think was my fault. So I untap my lands I used to pay for Shelob, and they're like whoa what are you doing? So I explain Im returning mana cost of the Shelob. At this point I dont really want to play, but I dont want to mess up lgs for myself, so I try to hold it. The Shelob-hater goes "you already used that mana"

So I say I concede then, and start packing up. The 8-leg despiser tries to convince me to finish the game, but I point out that I feel cheated because I was required to remove a permanent and couldnt either draw or regain mana, because of his fear, and his response was its not his fault hes afraid.

I finish packing up, but I was angry. So usually I put my Sauron, Lord of the Ring, The Enemy, The Lidless Eye, The Dark Lord, The Deciever, The... you get who, my favourite villain, as the first card in my seethrough deckbox. But my deckbox is seethrough, and Shelob is already there, already in the front... so I jam my deck behind her, and slam my deckbox spider first into his direction as I pack mat, tokens dice etc. He runs away, I pack up, and go "oh sorry" and pack the deckbox last. But I wasnt sorry. I was happy with my devious plan.

The spider-detester returns to the table and goes on to play with his mates, and I go to thank the shopowner for the time and get to leave.

I was reading what I wrote like 2 or 3 times and was wondering if I should even post it, coz this sounds like a bad joke honestly.

Edit: Sorry if I dont respond to your comment, Im helping my wife with her first ever pokemon playthrough

r/EDH Jun 20 '26

Social Interaction Had a player trick me last night, unsure how to feel about it.

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4 player EDH match. Player across from me, has a very sinister board. 4 5/5’a and an 18/16 on board.

Player to the left of me says he has a board wipe to deal with it don’t worry about it. Proceeds to my the and I do some small stuff but pass, because board wipe incoming.

Player to the left of me who announces he had a board wipe decided he doesn’t want to play it now, leaving me with a horribly weak board. Turn passes eventually back to the threat and he kills me with 22 damage.

The threat player went on to steamroll the game easily, and the player to my left thought it was funny what happened

Should I be pissed at the player announcing he was gonna play a board wipe and then not doing it?

r/EDH Jan 16 '26

Social Interaction Etiquette on scooping to stax

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I had a game today that has got me thinking. An opponent understated the power of their deck and brought a heavy stax deck to a low bracket three game. Whatever, no big deal. The issue arised when on my turn 5 I scooped at 40 health. The reason being I'd missed two lands, had my board wiped, hand emptied and limited to one mana per turn.

Now, to me, thats a perfectly acceptable reason to scoop. I don't care that I've got a 2% chance of pulling through, you got me. I lost. Good game, let's have another.

The stax player seemed to think that theyre entitled to be able to play the game out to the bitter end; personally I feel that if you're going to play stax decks you have to accept you won't see them all through. Am I alone in this?

r/EDH May 29 '25

Social Interaction PSA: If you try to let the others choose your deck: just stop

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Hey there!

This goes out to all those, mostly on SpellTable, that have 3-5 decks in front of them and try to make us others choose your deck for you. Bonus points if you aren't even disclosing the commanders and just ask "oNe, TwO oR three?!"

Just 👏🏻 Stop 👏🏻 It

You are not cool. You are not whimsical.

You just want to say "yOu GuYs PiCkEd ThIs DeCk 🤣🤣🤣"

What are you getting out of it? Stop it. It's not cool. It's not fun. Its obnoxious.

Edit: I get the upvote notification, I think I poked a hornet's nest and triggered a few of the people this PSA is directed towards.

r/EDH Jul 30 '25

Social Interaction We have GOT to get a handle on the hygiene problem is swear to god...

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This dude came in to play commander at the pod next to us and he stank SO BAD. It was fucking acrid. It burned my nose and throat. It feels like it left a film on my tongue. My husband was closer than me and started gagging.

Like holy shit. How are people this oblivious? How are you ok existing in a public space when you reek that bad. We left early because it was that bad.

Theres been talk of "how to get more women into magic" floating around. Here's an idea, free deodorant for every customer! I think that would help.

I am not a confrontational person and I know most of us aren't tbh. But I think we might have to start speaking up because this is ludicrous.

Im fucking nauseous.

r/EDH Jun 29 '26

Social Interaction If everyone hit the reset button on EDH rules and you could make the first universal revisions, what are you changing?

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More specifically, what’s the first thing you’re changing that you don’t have to think twice about? The rule that you think everyone would appreciate and there’s no tradeoff to making it a better game.

TLDR; we’re wiping the rules of EDH and you get to rewrite them. What’s your obvious change?

r/EDH 8d ago

Social Interaction Is Winds of Change too salty for Bracket 3?

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Had a guy at the lgs yesterday rage quit after we settled on bracket three and I had the first turn, so I cast winds of change. Is it really that salty? It is always a gamble for what you get. If you rely on a turn one sol ring, vamp tutor, enlightened tutor, Serra's ascendent, and so forth, then boo hoo, it's a game. I got two lands and missed land number four because of my winds of change, it's not like it's one sided. It affects all players. The other players at the table also didn't like it, but the one guy just cussed me out, yelled to get the stores attention, and stormed off.

r/EDH Oct 29 '25

Social Interaction Most entitled players I’ve ever met at an LGS table

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Hey everyone,
just a short rant incoming:

This weekend I had, for the first time ever (!), a situation where I left the table before the game even started.

I was unpacking my [[Eowyn, Shieldmaiden]] deck when the woman at the table yawned and said to her partner, “Wow, he really wants to bore us with a human tribal deck.” He replied, “Some people really need to be more creative with their decks.”

Then they revealed their own decks: He said, “Let’s play our Dungeons & Dragons decks,” and pulled out [[Miirym, Sentinel Wyrm]]. She brought out a “Strahd von Zarovich” deck… which turned out to be an alternate art proxy of [[Edgar Markov]].

At that point, I didn’t even care what the fourth player was running. I just asked, “Seriously? You’re complaining about creativity with those commanders?”

He said, “Sorry, we’re just big D&D fans. We’ve been playing the TTRPG for years.” When I mentioned I might just be a LotR fan, he replied, “Yeah, who isn’t?”

Honestly, I’m glad I didn’t play with them. It’s wild how narrow-minded and lacking in empathy people can be. At first I really thought they were just messing with me — but nope, they were serious.

Have you ever met such entitled players? Did you left a table before the game even started and what were the situation?

r/EDH 23d ago

Social Interaction Let Me Build You a Commander Deck? (Back to School Edition)

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Hello everyone! I'm back with another offer to build some commander decks. As a teacher, I go back to school next week so I'd love to make the most use of my remaining time off by building some decks! If you give me a single card (doesn’t have to be a commander but can be) I’ll go through and make a deck all around it for $100 or less. Just comment on this post, tell me what you want, and I’ll reply with the list when I have it. 😊

Obviously, I can’t buy all the decks but if you put one together, I’d love to hear about its success stories.

If you want to take a look through some of the decks I've already done while you're waiting for yours, you can find them on Moxfield: https://www.moxfield.com/users/13poynz and I also post videos of some of the decks on YouTube so if you want to see any deck breakdowns/games you can find them at youtube.com/dungeonlearnersguide

r/EDH May 26 '26

Social Interaction I lost everything. Its hard.

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I just recently lost all of my edh decks. Due to someone stealing my bag out of the back of my car. Its hard when I've spent 10 year collecting, and making those decks. Probably spent close to at bear minimum 2 grand on those cards. The money thing hurts, but its the memories made with those cards..... and playmats that hurts the most. I can no longer afford what it takes to get all that back. Im hoping they are found, but in my heart I dont have much hope. I hope if you are desperate you wont steal from others, but ask for help. If the person had asked me for help. instead of stealing the bag from the back of my car. I would've given them the shirt off my back. I have decided to start making proxies, So that I dont let this tear a rift between me and my personal play group. because I look forward to playing magic with them every weekend. I hope that everyone life it going better than mine, and if you took time to read this then I am thankful to you for listening to this sad man's rant. Sincerely, Blake

Edit: I did make a police report. Called all my local card shop, and made a Facebook post about it being stolen in some of my local mtg facebook communities. I have been search ebay.

r/EDH Jun 26 '26

Social Interaction Player in my pod reads flavor text everytime he plays a card and it bogs down games.

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Context: this started because pod likes to read every card effect on new cards so everyone knows what’s going on.

Well he plays a deck that powers up cards with no abilities so he felt left out, and he started reading the card flavor text, and it really was funny at first but now he essentially reads a book every match.

How can I approach him politely?

r/EDH Aug 23 '24

Social Interaction LGS couple decided I lost after "breaking" rule 0

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Hey guys,

I like your opinion and also to vent a little, to be honest.

Here you have the tl;dr version first:
Players had to announce their wincons to check, if deck is "suitable" for that game. Couple decided I lied, just ignored me killing one of them and played on.

Before the game:

I sat down in a store I have never been with three players I never played with. Player A didn't know us either, Player B and C were a couple. With me I had my three deck, a super budget deck with [[Rienne, Angel of Rebirth]], the Riders of Rohan precon with [[Eowyn, Shield Maiden]] / [[Aragorn, King of Gondor]] and my dearest stompy deck with [[Vorinclex, Monstrous Raider]].

To start I suggested to all go with precons, but the couple instantly refused, since they don't have any precons and don't like the low power level. They prefer mid to highpower casual, without cheesy combos. Perfect time to throw Vorinclex onto the table I thought.

Player A and me got asked by the couple, how our decks would win. Player said through combat and direct damage - playing [[Be'lakor, the Dark Master]]. I answered, I plan on winning via combat, refering to Vorinclex.

Player couple B C decided that's fine and discuss, what decks they gonna use. These were [[Liesa, Shroud of Dusk]] (announced wincon: lifegain, drain) and [[Lathiel, the Bounteous]] (announced wincon: combat).

Was a bit annoyed, that both decided to play lifegain after burn and combat were announced and also Lathiel doesn't have such a hard time vs. Liesa, but didn't show it. Commander damage and poison counters are still a thing in my deck, so I wasn't worried too much.

The game itself:

Not much unexpected happening here. Player A dies first. No lifegain for him and the taxing on Liesa, paired with some attacks got him to 0. With an early [[Shadowspear]] and a timely [[Momentous Fall]] I had no problems with the lifedrain and creatures coming my way. The couple teamed up on removing my fatties, which was correct - I was definetly the threat there ([[Managorger Hydra]] got out of hand and [[Champion of Lambholt]] wasn't less dangerous).

Everyones rebuilding, while a well-timed boardwipe send us all to the stoneage. Luckily artifacts survived, so my [[Swiftfoot Boots]] and [[The Ozolith]] with 10+ counters are still on the table. Couple B C both had above 40 life and I was too short on mana to play Vorinclex and kill them with commander damage. I still had a plan for killing them by surprise and now shields were down. I played [[Inkmoth Nexus]], used boots and ozolith on it after I activated the manland and attacked the Liesa player.

The rule 0 "violation":

Player B decided to not take the poison counters and just said something like:"Well, since you announced to win via combat damage and you are killing me with poison counters, you lied. That makes you lose the game. Let's see, who wins the 1on1". Then turned to Player C and they kept playing, acting like I was out of the game.

Player A was as perplexed as me. He mentioned, that I was refering to win via combat and that attacking with infect creatures is still winning via combat. Couples answer was just, that there aren't here to discuss the fine printing and that poison has to be announced, because it cheesy way of winning and counters lifegain strategies.

Takeaways?:

Obviously I didn't counterpick them, I felt more like they counterpicked us...
I'm not sure about the poison counter part, though. I summarised my decks wincon with "combat". It's either vanilla combat damage, commander damage, infect or toxic. It has ways to proliferate, but only on combat damage triggers via [[Bloated Contaminator]] and [[Sword of Truth and Justice]].

I didn't like the couples attitude anyhow and probably won't see them again anyhow. But I want your opinions on what to take away from this. Is it mandatory to announce poison counters? Was I correct by refering to "combat" as my wincon?

Thanks for your feedback!