Every single motherfucker on Reddit who thinks it's HI-larious and original to comment "As an X demographic..." on a post not targeted to them by pretending they are too stupid to figure out their demographic is implicitly excluded from the context of the question.
Og post reminds me of the amount of women online who go "I speak for all women when I say we all prefer dad bods and find gym bods gross" like who is we 😭
So one of your girl friends is a fan of a skinny rat boy who got the pizza hut shut down singlehandedly? Was he running drugs out of it or like built a shrine to the great horned rat so the inquisition had to come shut the place down?
He was jerking off in the freezer and bragged to his friends about it, he kept calling it like meat time or some shit like that. It got on the food and he was serving those pizzas to people on purpose. He would also throw patties there a lot but like everyone was doing that in fast food places where I live
Unsolicited advice, but once i got my ADHD treated, im able to not eat when bored and have been almost-effortlessly losing weight. I used to sit around 180 and i am 150 now, wearing my high school t shirts, and i turn 30 in a couple weeks
I knew this woman who would exclusively date shorter men (like 5'4-5'6) who looked like this guy. She had three boyfriends back to back who looked exactly the same. Then she married and had a baby with one. I don't judge at all, but it's a very specific type to have. She was also really pretty, average height, blonde, and she'd get hit on by different types of men.
this isnt anything new. yall shouldve been on tumblr back then. it's just that the jocks just cant seem to comprehend that women also like guys who have the opposite body type as them
I blame hollywood sensationalism and stereotyping friends
Hollywood or overly critical friends take one look at Mr. Unconventional and think “they could/deserve better”, then look at Mr. Conventional and think “lucky fucker”. Its an ego boost, obviously, to be seen as a attractive by most people, but I think the internet misjudges just how big a minority really is. Even 300,000 women agreeing on one body type being the hottest doesnt make up the majority, but anything past 10 seems to convince those men that its the agreed desired male form
One of the more fascinating parts of growing up was being inundated with media growing up about ideal body types.
Now I will watch my friends in discord have a conversation about how they want someone cut and muscular and then thirty minutes later gush about dad bods, or about skinny rat men, or about what have you.
Moral of the story is most people who say they want one thing will still happily take the other if the attached face/personality is attractive enough.
Being a dad is a free daily gym session tbh. Those shoulders and arms get pretty trained chucking wriggly 15kg weights around all the time. The belly gets big though.
It's the most boring insane stuff..like everyone has preferences, there is no monolith.
My partner has been with me nearly 20 years, I've been tall and lanky and now I'm 225lbs and like 7% bodyfat, pretty jacked and she's like "I like it" but equally doesn't care that I intend to slim down as I get older....
Anecdotally I see alot of this "I don't like jacked guys" but then all the lads who I lift with who are mega jacked all have really fit partners so........I don't usually buy into it fully.
Hi, human who falls into many different categories.
When anyone of a given category says they speak for all members, note that they do not speak for me unless I, and ONLY I, give my express permission for them to do so.
I'm sorry, but this comment is lowkey offensive and triggering. My step-uncle Jaxlyyn used to eat bean soup while posting hyperlinks on reddit and force me to watch when I was a kid back in the 70s. So maybe delete this...
It's mildly unfourtunate that the eponymous bean soup is a misunderstanding of the situation (it's a cooking vid with food that helps with menstrual cramps I think, and people were asking if there's any alternative (ie are the beans the operative part that helps)) but it's a useful term and it's probably not going away
really? i sorta feel like the fact that the situation that named the theory is entirely fabricated by context collapse says plenty about how useful it actually is
I think it just comes with the the territory. Any group based completely on exclusion of something is bound to have the things that are excluded come up as a topic. especially if the friend group has no chemistry or similarities beyond "not being a certain group".
I had this similar issue when I went to a poetry night in Berkeley back in 2019. Like I'm a very left leaning person, and I expected there to be a lot of political & social justice topics, but several of those poems were just kind of complaining about/shitting on white people (one literally had a couple people in the crowd shouting 'mayonaise boy' at some point). I think often when people don't have class consciousness or an understanding of how hierarchies like white supremacy, patriarchy, heteromativity, capitalism, the state, etc. intersect and feed upon one another. They don't understand that all oppressed people need to work together to be treated equally in all aspects of life, be that social, legal, orc economic inequity. But because genuine left wing conversation was so stifled in this country and slowly started building up this last 7 years or so, a lot of people don't have the framework to actually meaningfully voice or target this need for change they feel, and instead kind of just default back to "fuck the cishet white males" cause it's easy, edgy, and subversive. It's the closest thing they have to feeling some modicum of power or resistance to our unfair and unequal society.
Yeah, and I think it reflects something much more fundamental in the human condition: putting something out of your mind is much harder, requiring much more mental discipline, than hating it. Falling into hate and falling in love are just as easy.
It's simple enough to formulate a working theory for this: humans are emotional, and we seek order. It is why we are biased to classify things as "good" or "bad," often getting frustrated when something is complicated & nuanced with internal contradictions.
This shows up everywhere in our lives. For instance: when your partner breaks up with you, even if the relationship was mostly happy and healthy (despite obviously having issues), the easiest thing to do is sink into negativity: you feel bitter, alone, angry, withdrawn, betrayed, etc. Falling into hating them is just as easy as falling in love with them was. It takes conscious and deliberate effort to realize this is your mind playing tricks on you. It takes tremendous discipline and stamina to recognize that in reality, the sadness you feel isn't your ex's fault -- that your relationship was an enriching experience for the both of you despite its flaws, that you'll learn from the low points and cherish the high points in the future. For many people, the process of realizing this takes a long time: months or years. For some people, they never realize it; they think of that relationship bitterly for the rest of their lives.
My point is, holding onto grudges is human nature. It transcends individual cultures; there are revenge & rivalry stories going back thousands of years. It takes a conscious and difficult act of will to transcend this grudge, to put it behind you. But of course, people are scarcely willing to recognize & reflect on their ugliest qualities -- hate and loathing -- because it requires that one admit some pretty glaring flaws about themselves. Many people don't think they could fall into such hate; others think that they can't transcend such hate. Either way, it often collapses into the same mindset: that one's hate and loathing is "righteous," that it's "just" and "deserved."
Given all this, given the universality of this experience, it seems obvious that hate is not an emergent emotion from those in positions of power or privilege looking down on others. In other words, anyone can hate anyone! The majority can hate the minority, and the minority can hate the majority. Many atrocities -- i.e., the Rwandan genocide, or the ongoing Israeli genocide in Gaza -- have occurred when a previously disenfranchised and oppressed group rose to power and unleashed all their hate towards the now-powerless group that once oppressed them.
This is why I agree with you: productive transformation & reform of unjust societal structures needs to be constructive, not destructive. "Lifting up" vs "tearing down"; solidarity vs strife. And I'm not naive -- I don't think justice can be achieved simply by holding hands and declaring world friendship -- but the sort of edgy subversive invectice that you describe ("fuck whitey," "cishets gtfo," etc.) is more destructive than constructive. But I also understand why people do it, since as you say, many people in these oppressed minority groups have faced a lot of shitty, unfair treatment with no recourse. It takes a lot of strength to remain constructive in spite of all that hate -- but strength is what carries forth revolutions, not hate.
Any particular reason? Believe it or not, my cishet friends and I don’t sit around talking about queer people doing things we assume to be markers of queerness
My girlfriend has said that she's tried more than once to get her female friend group to intentionally pass the Bechdel test, but that they don't even want to in the first place.
Go to the sub r/GirlDinnerDiaries and you will see that almost every post there is talking about a man. Meanwhile if you go to r/BoyDinnerDiaries is far less talking about women, maybe only half.
as a straight man, I can't imagine finding a clearly fit and attractive man "genuinely repulsive". And I knowwwww the comment to this is gonna be shit like "who's gonna tell him" or "are you sure you're straight". Ok real funny, but seriously- who actually find all members of their non-preferred sex genuinely repulsive that seems a bit dramatic.
I mean im ace and i can still find people attractive. Id enjoy going to a museum and looking at the artwork, but i dont wanna go home and find fuckin A Sunday Afternoon on the Island of La Grande Jatte taking up the entire wall of my living room, yknow?
Thank you. Some people look at that Dad bod and think it’ll be achievable by never moving your body and be shocked that women don’t love their dad bod.
Thank you, I get a bit frustrated with some of the images that get portrayed as "dad bods" nowadays. I swear half of the internet thinks a "dad bod" is just any male body that doesn't have visibly rock hard abs.
Do you mean like, as long as they’re not on steroids, or can someone naturally lift their way into being unappealing? Do note that most jacked influencers are not natural
I think that there sort of is any time vagina is involved but it’s also in lesser scale than whatever Twitter is on. I’d say that it’s just that some women think that openly saying bad stuff on anything regarding men is vengeance for misogyny.
some women think that openly saying bad stuff on anything regarding men is vengeance for misogyny
Kind of like how discussions have been happening in "Women's spaces" online about how men should be forced (or more charitably: encouraged, normalized, state-subsidized) to get vasectomies at 18 years old to balance out how hellish the reality of birth control is for many women. To make men shoulder more of the work/responsibility for avoiding unwanted pregnancies.
I tried talking about this with a friend and she was really unhappy that I didn't go along with it. From the very beginning it felt like a shitty gender war thing and felt so off to me. I genuinely hate how people think they can treat the individual men in their lives like they're conspirators worthy of suspicion or ire simply because the patriarchy exists and has wronged them. I get they have more to complain about than me but it's wronged all of us and using it as an excuse to take me down a peg or two just makes me feel so fucking shitty about myself and about the way society is today regarding these issues. I can agree it's unfair that women go through so much regarding birth control without thinking promoting a surgery that is meant to be for sterilization is a good solution.
As someone who is queer, I have heard tooons of gay men go on unprovoked rants about how unappealing some woman is and how much they hate vaginas and can't imagine being with a woman and how it must be the grossest thing ever etc.
Part of the lesbian community developed a misandrist culture as revenge for structural mysoginy. It's also easier for them to be misandrist than straight women for obvious reasons.
Many gay men have friendships with mostly women, since they get pushed out of straight men spaces due to toxic masculinity and homophobia. Lesbians don't have the same issues with straight women, AND they aren't easily accepted into straight men's spaces for the same reason gay men aren't. Thus, lesbians get isolated into their own gender while gay men don't.
A lot of this is true, but I do want to speak from experience; there are a LOOOOT of misogynistic gay men. A lot of LGBT people think that since they're marginalized they don't need to reflect on the bad things they may think
Some of them do. How many gay men do you hang out with? What parts of the internet do you hang out with? How much outrage farming potential do you think there is in those parts of the internet for screenshotting a misogynistic gay man saying women look ugly to him compared with this?
Probably because you aren't hanging out with the ones that do, because I've definitely heard gay men express exactly this kind of unprompted revulsion.
It's not, like, ubiquitous. But it's not unheard of, either.
I'm a lesbian too but it's rude af to call the bodies of an entire gender "genuinely repulsive." Like I'm not attracted to men but that doesn't mean I should talk about other people that way
It's why in general I don't body-shame people either, no matter how unconventionally unattractive they are. As people are 100% willing to deliver it back just as hard anyway randomly on the internet if they're personally offended.
I wish people would just mind their business, but we live in a culture of nosy mfers who have nothing better to do it seems than stroke their own ego.
Plus, it's just mean. Not just to the person you're saying it too.
Everyone you know who falls into that category now thinks you are judging them/disgusted by them/etc
It's disheartening to see how immediately people who claim to be open minded leap to hurtful insults, particularly toward famous people and politicians.
There are about 1000 things he chooses to do and say that you can insult the POTUS for without resorting to "haha diapers" when your good friend might have really bad IBS and be holding back tears. Same with leaping to "he's secretly gay" or the whole "she doesnt like short men but she's fat and therefore objectively lesser". Or ripping on an actor/actress getting work done. Even the two witches from wicked were body shamed for MONTHS when their actual weirdness and the things they said were infinitely funnier/more cringey.
Its also just strange. I'm a straight guy but I dont think either of those bodies are "repulsive". Sure, I dont find them attractive but you can find the human body in general to be beautiful without being sexually attracted to it. These people who are repulsed by basic human form are weirdos.
Yeah I kind of really dislike people who consider being attracted to men as something unfortunate or think it's funny to say "Oh I'm so sorry" regarding it. It's demeaning to men obviously but it's also demeaning to me? The one who likes men? It's just rude.
It’s not even “oh I don’t find either of these attractive bc I like women” she finds it repulsive just bc they’re men. Like the whole “I hate men and everything about their existence” shit is so annoying. It’s somehow worse than the incel shit that’s just jealous and miserable all the time
I'm a lesbian and I agree with the meme purely from a sympathy perspective, because I learned that the insanely defined muscles are like that because the person is dehydrated, and being dehydrated can't be fun. Drink some water, dude! You'll feel much better!
Some people's genetics are just insanely geared for it, overall youre right though. That said, bodybuilding competitions aren't healthy, nor do they pretend to be. But it would take divine intervention to keep men from them and keep them from wanting to look like them. Unironically, the male power fantasy is He-Man. We just wanna have big muscles and defeat the spooky scary skelington.
Note that most straight men wouldn't say they find those two bodies REPULSIVE. Not attractive nor sexy? Of course, we only like women's bodies in those ways, but those two male bodies are not repulsive, those are not the bodies of an 90 year old or someone who is morbidly obese, just regular young bodies, nothing gross. So most lesbians (and the OOP) probably also don't really find them repulsive, but they gotta make everything about themselves, and let everbody know how much they dislike men.
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