r/CFB Mississippi State • Alabama 2d ago

News [Andrew E. Graham] Asked Lance Taylor about the second being put on the clock. Said he hasn’t seen the TV copy but saw live that it was “past zeroes” before one of WMU’s players touched it. Also said MAC commissioner Jon Steinbrecher may already be in touch with the B1G

https://x.com/andrewedgraham/status/2096443068559839658?s=46
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u/mmhawk607 Texas Longhorns 2d ago

if this was the other way around, WMU wouldn't have gotten a second back lol

u/Another_Name_Today BYU Cougars • Western Michigan Broncos 2d ago

Other way around and a second left, they would have let it run. 

u/John_T_Conover Texas A&M Aggies 2d ago

Other way around and all the ridiculous no calls that even led to this being a possibility wouldn't have happened. That final call was the nail in the coffin of a pattern that clearly shows total corruption.

u/CommissionIcy9909 Michigan State Spartans 2d ago edited 1d ago

Ya this completely overshadows the missed running into the kicker on wmu’s last punt.

u/Seeking-Something- Notre Dame Fighting Irish 2d ago

Ridiculous amount of flagrant face mask calls went uncalled.

u/ItAintLongButItsThin Michigan State Spartans 2d ago

I feel like you're all coming to see the monster for what it is. For years I have bitched in silence, now irrefutable proof is infront of the masses! Condem these foul beasts for what they are! UofM alums run intertwined in all aspects of college football and they will and have always tilted the scaled towards their favor.

Fuck them and reverse this W!

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u/d1sportsball Colorado State Rams • Texas Longhorns 2d ago

Well... there was a directional Michigan school almost exactly 10 years ago...

I guess they didn't get a second, so by technicality you are correct

u/JB92103 Cincinnati • Oklahoma State 2d ago

As traumatized as I am from that game, at least it happened for an understandable reason. The rulebook wasn't entirely clear on the specific situation that played out.

But this? No justifiable reason whatsoever.

u/Statalyzer Texas Longhorns 2d ago

The way they ruled it in your game was far better of a rule than what the actual rule turned out to be.

u/Maladroit44 Oklahoma State • Tennessee 2d ago

I mean, it wouldn't really change anything practically. If it was actually a rule, in that situation QBs would just run around a little longer and go down on the field rather than risk an intentional grounding. The only reason it mattered in that game is because it wasn't in the rulebook, because if it was, OKST would've just run the clock out some other way.

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u/mr-rile-u-up 2d ago

See, that one was different, because it wasn’t willful. They were just dumb refs.

This has genuine malice behind the decision.

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u/hayrack605 South Dakota State • Iowa State 2d ago

They would get the same thing they're probably going to get here: an apology letter of some kind that means jack squat

u/overitallofittoo Arizona Wildcats • Pac-12 2d ago

"Upon further review of our reviewing systems, we acknowledge that an error might have occurred. However, since this secondary review happened after the game, Western Michigan can get fucked."

u/CherryCity5 2d ago

There literally wouldn't have been a review. Both teams would've walked into the field for handshakes and there would not be one post on the entire Internet saying 1 second should be added

u/VQQN 2d ago

If the game ended on the first time the clock hit 00:00 there would be no controversy

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u/Camino3224 Alabama Crimson Tide • Memphis Tigers 2d ago

B10 about to issue the sincerest of apologies on Monday

u/COLU_BUS Ohio State Buckeyes • /r/CFB Poll Veteran 2d ago

Screenshot of the Notes app apology

u/whatifevery1wascalm Alabama Crimson Tide • Iowa Hawkeyes 2d ago

🙏Respect our decision win 🙏

u/thejawa Florida State • Air Force 2d ago

First off I'd like to say God is great

u/Wyden_long Arizona State • Northern Arizo… 2d ago

Through him all things are possible, so jot that down.

u/VersaTron Ohio State Buckeyes 2d ago

These actions do not reflect who I am

u/sbballc11 Ohio State • Summertime Lover 2d ago

But we have to stand by what the lord chose in those final moments.

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u/walterdog12 Kentucky • North Dakota State 2d ago

The Big Ten Conference acknowledges that an officiating error occurred at the conclusion of Saturday's game between the University of Michigan and Western Michigan University. Upon review, the game clock had expired and displayed 0:00 before officials restored one second to the clock, allowing an additional play to occur. Under the applicable timing rules, the game should have been declared over when the clock reached 0:00, and the additional second should not have been added. We recognize the significant impact this error had on the conclusion of the game and understand the frustration felt by Western Michigan’s student-athletes, coaches, staff, and supporters. The Conference sincerely apologizes to Western Michigan University and will review the circumstances surrounding the error with the officiating crew to ensure proper procedures are followed moving forward.

u/D1N2Y NC State Wolfpack • Charlotte 49ers 2d ago

This made my blood boil. Fantastic work.

u/Dr_Mantis_Teabaggin Oregon State Beavers • Egg Bowl 2d ago

The worst part is how accurate it is. 

u/Competitive_Goat4250 2d ago

Gotta be within 98% accuracy of the actual announcement, I’m betting.

u/-Nocx- Texas A&M Aggies 2d ago

what a coincidence, the ref is something of a gambler himself

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u/ThisIsOurGoodTimes Ohio State • Ohio Northern 2d ago

You sure they won’t try and gas light everyone and say the clock in the stadium and on tv weren’t correct and apologize for the confusion their discrepancy from the “real” clock caused

u/QuitWhinging Florida Gators • Paper Bag 2d ago

That's what I'm fully expecting, honestly. "Actually, the ref's secret, hidden clock (that none of you are allowed to ever see so DON'T EVEN ASK!!) actually showed one second left. You all just don't know ball."

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u/Gay_Giraffe_1773 Oregon Ducks • Portland State Vikings 2d ago

Do you have a time machine?

u/Tywooti Michigan Wolverines 2d ago

Yeah the time machine adds one second to things that have expired

u/mr-rile-u-up 2d ago

Hey, wait, I’m supposed to be angry at you!

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u/stringfellow-hawke 2d ago

…but the important thing is that Michigan won and this shouldn’t be held against them by the playoff committee.

u/Exotic_Pension_9993 Wisconsin • Arizona State 2d ago

i don't think they admit that because then WMU can just appeal the decision and they'll have it in writing that the Big Ten says the last play shouldn't have counted lol

u/Yourfavoriteindian Houston Cougars • Navy Midshipmen 2d ago

They have video of Whitt admitting it so

u/Rapscallious1 2d ago

It doesn’t matter at this point, that statement has been enough in the past. It’s dumb but once it’s official there is essentially no method to overturn

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u/GreatestWhiteShark Northwestern • Ohio State 2d ago

"Sorry guys, we messed up. But we can't do anything about it, sucks tho"

  • Tony Petitti

u/Aumissunum Alabama • North Alabama 2d ago

“I have no recommendation of the call”

u/Electromotivation James Madison Dukes 2d ago

Unlike our refs, we see no need to overturn the call…

u/WirlingDirvish Michigan Wolverines • College Football Playoff 2d ago

It's Tony petetti. The message will be "Copilot draft a response to the MAC that defends our officials and offers to work together to improve the sport by moving to 24 team playoff"

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u/FrostTroll69 Ohio State Buckeyes 2d ago

South park style maybe

u/bubblecuffer13 Pop-Tarts Bowl • Team Meteor 2d ago

"We are deeply sorry"

u/Dr_Mantis_Teabaggin Oregon State Beavers • Egg Bowl 2d ago

rubs nipples

u/bacan_ Maryland Terrapins 2d ago

Reverse the result to fuck over the gambling companies 

u/Patrick2701 Notre Dame • North Central (IL) 2d ago

YouTube style apology video

u/FoundTheShithead Auburn Tigers 2d ago

Tony Petitti starts playing the ukulele

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u/Tackoman46 Texas Longhorns • USC Trojans 2d ago

"I have made a severe and continuous lapse in judgement" -Tonight's officiating crew, recorded from their new mansion

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u/DellFlightSim Alabama Crimson Tide 2d ago

“Hey guys we apologize for that but due to the risk of adding a loss to one of our darlings, we are just gonna keep the score how it is.”

-Big 10 Commissioner prolly

u/dylannnnnnnn Oklahoma Sooners 2d ago

Ukulele song type apology

u/BOOFNODGILE USC Trojans • /r/CFB Donor 2d ago

The Pac12 did alter the score for a USC vs Utah game after the game concluded, so if it did happen is wouldnt be unprecedented. However USC won by multiple scores so it only mattered for gamblers

u/Ometrist Oregon Ducks • Pacific (OR) Boxers 2d ago

Following PAC 12 ref precedence is a scary thought

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u/believelander19 Ohio State Buckeyes 2d ago

So there is a precedent though. That's interesting.

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u/poopdaddy2 Ole Miss • Loyola New Orleans 2d ago

And all of a sudden have PhD level knowledge of latency and broadcast lag time.

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u/jayjude Notre Dame • Georgia State 2d ago

Lance Taylor just had his signature win ripped from him

Got to feel so bad for him

u/tvcneverdie Georgia Bulldogs 2d ago

It should be given back to him.

There's no real rules in CFB.

Someone in power needs to declare the touchdown doesn't count because it wasn't official.

WMU won 12-7.

u/RustledHard Akron Zips • North Carolina Tar Heels 2d ago

That's my thoughts as well. This should definitely be able to be overruled and the win given to WMU. It's a terrible look for all CFB if that doesn't happen

u/poopzains 1d ago

They will not overturn it. They will wait a week and no one will be talking about this. Brought to you by DraftKings.

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u/touch_my_vallecula Michigan State Spartans • Oregon Ducks 2d ago

I think r/cfb should at least make an executive decision and put it as a WMU win for their statistics/season things/ ranking

u/0KED0KE Michigan State Spartans 2d ago

Fucking this.

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u/GrowYourOwnOmaha Nebraska Cornhuskers 2d ago

If UCF can claim they’re national champions, WMU can claim they beat Michigan in the big house.

u/Mender0fRoads Missouri Tigers 2d ago

Claiming whatever the fuck you want is a time-honored college football tradition that’s been ripped away from us in the rush to corporatize and professionalize the sport.

Back in the good old days when conferences had 8-10 teams, a “good” bowl was the goal for almost everyone, and two or three teams might have legitimate claims to a national championship, this sport was perfect.

u/Mcswigginsbar Purdue Boilermakers • Team Chaos 2d ago

I’ll forever die on the hill that the BCS was the best championship era. The bowl games still fucking meant something.

This “new era” is a complete bastardization of the sport.

u/ProbablyRickSantorum Hail Saban 2d ago

If they don't give WMU that win I'm gonna claim another title out of spite.

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u/rake2204 2d ago edited 2d ago

I can't imagine what his players are feeling as well. I saw at least one in tears and it was the most understandable response possible. It's one thing to lose a game on a miraculous final play. It's quite another to win after the final play, only to have to come back out for another final play, which then culminates in a heartbreaking loss.

u/Patrick2701 Notre Dame • North Central (IL) 2d ago

Great job, Larry Ellison you overpaid like your son overpaid for paramount

u/AxeEm_JD Oklahoma • Stephen F. Austin 2d ago

Overpaid for Underwood, paid the right amount for the refs.

u/Patrick2701 Notre Dame • North Central (IL) 2d ago

How long until Michigan bench him because dear god

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u/Daquan67 Notre Dame Fighting Irish 2d ago

Hurts even more since he was a great RB coach for us. I’ve been rooting for him since he left.

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u/Electromotivation James Madison Dukes 2d ago

Imagine the team left out of the playoffs if Michigan gets in

u/Apart_Number_2792 2d ago

This Michigan team ain't sniffing the playoffs, lol

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u/ProposalSilent4582 2d ago

Western Michigan runs the table and goes 11-1 but they miss out on the playoffs because another G6 team went 12-0.

u/wilbo21020 Michigan Wolverines 2d ago

The good news is that Michigan isn’t going to make the playoffs.

We just scored 7 points on a MAC defense in regulation at home…

Oklahoma’s defense is probably going to do unspeakable things to us next week.

u/Wasker71 Oklahoma State • Princeton 2d ago

You have no idea how much it pains a pOKes fan to say it, but I hope you’re exactly right!

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u/Due-Dirt-8428 Notre Dame Fighting Irish 2d ago

Give em hell Jon

u/OleRockTheGoodAg Texas A&M Aggies 2d ago

Prank em, Jon

u/thekamakaji Purdue Boilermakers • SMU Mustangs 2d ago

Just a little bit of clock pranks between friends

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u/tony971 Ohio State Buckeyes • Air Force Falcons 2d ago

I want to thank Michigan for being so fucking corrupt the moment they escape containment that we stop being the most hated team in the conference despite our fans being our fans.

u/BIG_DICK_WHITT Utah Utes • Billable Hours 2d ago

Honestly them winning this game was one of the worst thing that could’ve happened to them.

u/Appropriate-Joke-806 Vanderbilt Commodores 2d ago

Exactly. It would have been better for them to lose with the time expiring than what just happened. Now this game will be remembered forever and people will talk about it as illegitimate at the end of the season instead of just saying “oh that was a bad loss.” Plus they look stupid rushing the field against a directional school they were favored to beat by 20+.

u/persieri13 Nebraska Cornhuskers 2d ago

I’ve always felt fairly neutral about the Ohio St-Michigan rivalry and tonight is the first time that I can feel the hate rolling through me.

u/dwors025 Minnesota • Paul Bunyan's Axe 2d ago

Oh yeah, welcome aboard - it’s never been close for me.

Fuck Michigan for fucking ever.

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u/rollindeep3 Ohio State • Tennessee 2d ago

We feel that on a regular Tuesday in July. Let it flow through you.

u/Lemurians Michigan State • Illinois 2d ago

People always look confused when I tell them I root for OSU to beat Michigan every year and now I think they’ll be catching on to the why more

u/ProbablyAPotato1939 Iowa Hawkeyes • Northern Iowa Panthers 2d ago

I feel like the old B1G West had grown pretty apathetic about the the Ohio State-Michigan rivalry since it was pretty inconsequential to us.

That has slowly changed over the last few years, and after tonight the change has been finalized.

u/persieri13 Nebraska Cornhuskers 2d ago

Definitely solidifying the “Michigan vs the world” arc.

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u/BIG_DICK_WHITT Utah Utes • Billable Hours 2d ago

When they said “Michigan versus the world” maybe they were right.

u/Inconceivable76 Ohio State • Arizona State 2d ago

The world is correct

u/Bondorian Ohio State Buckeyes • Oregon Ducks 2d ago

And they deserve it

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u/FlimFlamThaGimGar Notre Dame Fighting Irish 2d ago

Let’s get the lawyers involved already, what are we waiting for

u/Due-Dirt-8428 Notre Dame Fighting Irish 2d ago

I signed up for law school tonight so I can help fight this injustice

u/Electromotivation James Madison Dukes 2d ago

At the rate lawsuits are involved in college football… by the time you are done with law school, I think most of the games will be played entirely in the courtroom

u/SkubalIsPitching Michigan • Oregon State 2d ago

In 5 years we won't even need the sport itself. College football fans will all just flood into courtrooms to see lawyers for two schools argue over which school should be declared the winner of a theoretical "game" that was never actually played.

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u/Reasonable_Cause7065 BYU Cougars • Big 12 2d ago

I didn’t realize you could just signup for law school…

u/Due-Dirt-8428 Notre Dame Fighting Irish 2d ago

You can do anything if you believe in yourself

u/MotorSevere4899 BYU Cougars • Pop-Tarts Bowl 2d ago

Well, first of all, through God, all things are possible, so jot that down

u/Teaboo22222 Notre Dame • Middlebury 2d ago

That’s the attitude, lad.

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u/Schmenza Harvard Crimson • Tulane Green Wave 2d ago

Don't even have to sign up. Just show up on the first day of class

u/EvaporatingOlaf Tennessee Volunteers 2d ago

I didn’t realize you could just add a second to a game after the clock hit 0 but here we are

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u/eye_can_see_you Texas Longhorns • Red River Shootout 2d ago

There's gotta be a district judge in Louisiana we can get on this

u/Sorge74 Ohio State • Bowling Green 2d ago

Western Michigan just needs to judge shop it down to Ohio.

u/Pleasant_Offer6286 2d ago

You want Tarrant County in TX for this level of bullshit. That guy said Sorsby could play.

u/Aidanj927 Texas Tech Red Raiders • UTSA Roadrunners 2d ago

Say what you want about Cody but if this was us the lawsuit would be filed by morning

u/2-59project Indiana Hoosiers • Oklahoma Sooners 2d ago

Season has started and billable hours are somehow still undefeated

u/ShallowKalkite Michigan Wolverines 2d ago

BILLABLE HOURS ARE UNDEFEATED

u/SwaglordHyperion Nebraska Cornhuskers • Texas A&M Aggies 2d ago

I need a billable hours flair

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u/leverich1991 Kansas State Wildcats 2d ago

These refs would have called App State offsides on the field goal block.

u/Designer-Solid-5973 2d ago

If DraftKings existed then

u/16semesters UMass Minutemen 2d ago

0 percent chance any book in America had a significant money on their books for WMU money line. If anything this probably screwed them by bailing out some Michigan ML parlays.

u/Local_Preference_746 Arizona State Sun Devils 2d ago

Draftkings loves an upset. This is pure pig10 corruption 

u/thejawa Florida State • Air Force 2d ago

Or Illegal Leverage

Denver Broncos PTSD sets in

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u/FrostTroll69 Ohio State Buckeyes 2d ago

I hope the MAC sues the B1G

u/Real_Guarantee_4530 Ohio State Buckeyes • The Game 2d ago

We will all be rooting for the MAC

u/kyrev21 Kentucky Wildcats 2d ago

Imagine Michigan rushing the field against a directional state school and then having to record the game as a loss

u/Bondorian Ohio State Buckeyes • Oregon Ducks 2d ago

That would be the karma I keep hearing so much about but have yet to see

u/wysiwygperson Notre Dame Fighting Irish 2d ago

Ain’t that the fuckin truth

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u/Clean_Kangaroo_5547 2d ago

We need an Ohio Judge to get onboard.

u/AllTimeTy Missouri Tigers • /r/CFB Placer 2d ago

Honestly I hate the CFB legal shit but for this I NEED IT. This is legit fucked and I don’t want an apology, I want WMU to be actually recognized as 1-0. No asterisks, nothing.

We need a super rich Michigan hater to bank roll this shit for the MAC if need be.

u/multiple4 South Carolina • 九州産業大学 (Kyushu … 2d ago

In most ref mistakes this can't happen

But in this case there's a legitimate argument for changing the result. The game objectively was over. It's not like there's anything after that could've happened differently

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u/Byzantine_Merchant Michigan State • Ohio State 2d ago

Legit want an NCAA, MAC, and CFP joint statement declaring Western Michigan the victors.

u/CrimeanWind21 Michigan State Spartans 2d ago

Cody Campbell time to begin your redemption arc

u/Crotean Michigan Wolverines • Clemson Tigers 2d ago

Sue the big 10 and let's see what court discovery shows about the internal workings of officiating.

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u/Rillaboom2701 2d ago

i'm not even kidding they probably would have called PI if he dropped the second hail mary 

u/so2017 Maine Black Bears • UConn Huskies 2d ago

Exactly my thought and no doubt.

Anyone who thinks Michigan wouldn’t have gotten a third chance is kidding themselves.

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u/FoundTheShithead Auburn Tigers 2d ago

I thought for sure they were gonna call roughing the passer when I saw Underwood get hit. I only caught the initial contact before the camera swung but it look like he got smoked.

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u/Opening_Cycle3639 2d ago

This is more likely of a rig lmao, the refs didn't seem like they were itching for a flag tho

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u/burningwater202 Penn State • Rutgers 2d ago

"We've investigated ourselves and found that we've done nothing wrong"

u/Bondorian Ohio State Buckeyes • Oregon Ducks 2d ago

The B1G probably, the refs assuredly

u/SwaglordHyperion Nebraska Cornhuskers • Texas A&M Aggies 2d ago

MAC better boycott scheduling with the B1G if this is how they get treated

u/Avagontamos Paper Bag • Land Grant Trophy 2d ago

MAC teams need the buy games to fund their programs, unfortunately. Just boycott Michigan.

Some B1G teams treat our MAC brethren fairly

u/DryMission5506 Florida State Seminoles • Paper Bag 2d ago

Rutgers lost like a group of gentlemen

u/acewing Indiana Hoosiers 2d ago

Even treated them to fireworks.

u/astrothemorkie LSU Tigers • USC Trojans 2d ago

CLASS ACT RUTGERS! Invents football then lets MACtion take over from there

u/milesm01 2d ago

For a moment, I was like "wait a minute, Rutgers isn't in the B1G" but then I remembered.

u/Rockerblocker Michigan State Spartans • Great West 2d ago

MSU loves our MAC brethren, as long as we're not talking about CMU

u/Byzantine_Merchant Michigan State • Ohio State 2d ago

Western Michigan is my favorite MAC team to play anyways.

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u/dabombisnot90s LSU Tigers 2d ago

Gotta win by 16 points ig. Like UMass. Speaking of which, the Big 10 prob made a call to the ref because they could not take two MAC losses in one week. Mfers would start being thrown into conversations about who the best conference in the Midwest really is.

u/dwors025 Minnesota • Paul Bunyan's Axe 2d ago

If the face masks and holdings and roughing the kickers calls had been made, they would have been up much more.

It’s not just the end - it’s the whole fucking time.

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u/jfarbzz Rutgers Scarlet Knights 2d ago

Yeah the MAC has no business playing B1G teams.

Pay no attention to my flair.

u/miversen33 Iowa Hawkeyes • /r/CFB Bug Finder 2d ago

They need that money :(

u/benjaminck Wisconsin • 四日市大学 (Yokkaichi) 2d ago

They will be forced to take legal MACtion.

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u/no-kangarooreborn Wyoming Cowboys 2d ago

It won't happen but this "win" being vacated would probably be the best CFB moment of the 2020s

u/jdprager Tulane Green Wave • Ohio State Buckeyes 2d ago

There's been a ton of games that felt "rigged" at some level, but this is genuinely only one of two that actually should be overturned (the other being CMU-OK State).

It's a completely objectively wrong call that changed a game from "over" to "not over". If the refs did the obviously, painfully clearly correct thing, this is unambiguously a WMU win

u/jayjude Notre Dame • Georgia State 2d ago

I said it elsewhere but I think the big difference between this and the CMU vs Ok State game is that in that game, the refs made an error in applying the rules

In this game, the game ended and an objective reality got ignored

That feels different by like a lot

One is human error, it fucking sucked but human error happens

There is no rational explanation for this one

u/jdprager Tulane Green Wave • Ohio State Buckeyes 2d ago

I've been saying the same thing all over the place. CMU - OK State was a genuine fuckup because the untimed down rules are kinda inequitable (it's really weird that the offense can benefit from intentional penalties)

There's no mistake that could cause this. The officials were looking at the exact same evidence as us that the game was over, and just decided to ignore it. There's no level of incompetence that could lead to this, it can only be malice. Which is NUTS

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u/originalbiggusdickus Columbia Lions • Ohio State Buckeyes 2d ago

The US basketball team never accepted the 1972 Olympic silver medals, because they won gold. W Michigan should list this as a win, because they fucking won the game.

u/Hammerhead34 Nebraska • Minnesota 2d ago

There are multiple rational explanations, but no ETHICAL ones

u/Top-Attitude-4987 Oregon Ducks 2d ago

The CMU game was at least very obviously an honest mistake. I'm not sure even how you could say this was a mistake.

u/jdprager Tulane Green Wave • Ohio State Buckeyes 2d ago

Yep I've been saying the same thing. That was a genuine misunderstanding of the untimed down rules (and quite honestly, that SHOULD be the actual rule. It's wack that the offense can benefit from intentional penalties)

There's no rules mistake here, it's just the refs telling us to ignore the clear and obvious evidence our eyes are seeing

u/mr-rile-u-up 2d ago

Exactly. Even the Duke-UM one can explained away as an incredibly chaotic play with a million different things (although that one was def an ACC jobbing, just that it was somehow LESS blatant than this.)

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u/CloudApprehensive322 Paper Bag • Big East 2d ago

This is one of the extremely rare cases where you could potentially argue for the result to change. I hope it happens.

u/PreviousImpression28 2d ago

Yep

  1. Game ends either way
  2. Refs reviewed it, so it wasn’t “missed”
  3. Whittingham admitted there wasn’t a second left

u/ctinker6171 Oregon Ducks • Billable Hours 2d ago

Absolutely wishing them sucess but "MAC commissioner getting in contact with the B1G" is unfortunately giving coughing baby vs hydrogen bomb.

u/ShallowKalkite Michigan Wolverines 2d ago

I've never heard of him but I guarantee he is a better commissioner than Petiti.

u/Gbchris12 Michigan Wolverines • College Football Playoff 2d ago

Not exactly a high bar

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u/DyZ814 Penn State Nittany Lions • Utah Utes 2d ago

The B1G is going to come out and say "sorry, we made a mistake" and that'll be that.

u/Apart_Number_2792 2d ago

It's truly pathetic.

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u/EdselFordEdsel Indiana • Northern Illinois 2d ago

Can I have a Jon Steinbrecher flair? He needs our public support

u/Collinsnow1 BYU Cougars 2d ago

The worst part of all of this is that the original call was that the game was over. That means on review, they needed conclusive video evidence to overturn that. This means by overturning the call, there was zero doubt that there was 1 second left. 

Anyone with a pair of eyes can see that, at the very least, it’s inconclusive. It’s rigged. 

u/mjs_pj_party Michigan Wolverines • Colorado Buffaloes 2d ago

That's actually a great point.

I feel like this is often NOT the way the rule is applied during reviews but it 100% should be.

u/JaleDunior 2d ago

This is much, much worse than a blatant missed in-game call. The game was literally over. 0:00 and absolutely no evidence was put forth to have a second added back. If anything, it 100% confirmed the game was over. This is one of the more egregious things I've seen across all levels of football. Embarrassment. This should honestly be taken to court. Western Michigan lost a lot out of this deal and deserves to be compensated.

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u/prismatic_lights Ohio State • Pittsburgh 2d ago

DraftKings in the replies asking if they can use the video on their socials has to be one of the most tone-deaf things imaginable.

Buddy, people are thinking this happened because of your industry.

u/Appropriate-Joke-806 Vanderbilt Commodores 2d ago

They don’t have to worry about being tone-deaf. They can be openly corrupt because they have that much money and power. It’s good advertising for them to be corrupt.

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u/snekky-snek Michigan Wolverines 2d ago

Western Michigan got robbed.

u/emperorsolo St. Anselm • St. Francis (PA) 2d ago

The MAC commissioner has to be absolutely livid. Especially when one of his teams gets denied being possibly ranked on Monday.

u/OldRedLobsterBiscuit Michigan State • Oregon State 2d ago

The polls are subjective, nothing stops the voters from ranking Western Michigan anyways.  (They should absolutely consider this a win when voting)

u/Paper_Clip100 Michigan State Spartans 2d ago

lol. They won’t

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u/Will071 Florida Gators 2d ago

I’m treating this game as a loss for Michigan if I was on the CFP committee.

u/digbug0 Washington Huskies • Amherst Mammoths 2d ago

should be regardless… poor performance against a MAC SCHOOL should not be rewarded. I will riot if Washington isn’t ranked higher than Michigan next week if all goes smoothly…

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u/Insectshelf3 Oklahoma Sooners • SEC 2d ago

hope steinbrecher is on the warpath. at a minimum, entire crew needs to be fired.

u/skinnyfat24 Ohio State Buckeyes 2d ago

He discovered America. He was a brave Italian explorer. And in this house Broc Lowry is a hero. End of story.

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u/usernameisusername57 North Dakota State • Wisconsin 2d ago

This is the Big 10's chance to show that there's even a shred of legitimacy left in the sport. Which is to say that they're going to back Michigan 100% and tell us all to ignore the evidence of our eyes.

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u/Crotean Michigan Wolverines • Clemson Tigers 2d ago

Seriously I hope the result of this game is over turned. WMU won the clock was at zeroes.

u/bdougy BYU Cougars • Ohio State Buckeyes 2d ago

“May” lol

u/shield_x Washington Huskies • Alabama Crimson Tide 2d ago
  • Jim Wharrie — Referee
  • Keith Vaverchak — Umpire
  • Ric Hinkamper — Linesman
  • Jeff Szink — Line Judge
  • Jeff Latkiewicz — Back Judge
  • Kyle DuBuse — Field Judge
  • Grady Smith — Side Judge

u/Pleasant_Offer6286 2d ago

Need to include the replay official. That’s the clown that set all of this in motion.

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u/BlueCity8 Michigan Wolverines 2d ago

Honestly, I think any reasonable person agrees with Lance.

u/PunchNessie Oklahoma State • Oregon State 2d ago

B10: $orry, that’s a shame. Welp nothing we can do.

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u/rollindeep3 Ohio State • Tennessee 2d ago

End sports gambling. Full stop.

u/Jolly_Job_9852 Western Carolina • Western … 2d ago

I'm making my second flair WMU, for this season. Let's go MACtion

u/Round-Guarantee4948 2d ago

Oklahoma is about to unveil the long-awaited 77-0 Coach Fran dog stomping next weekend to Michigan

u/InfamousCattle3223 Michigan Wolverines 2d ago

I don’t understand why it wouldn’t be possible to just overturn it. The last play never happened, the game was over.

u/VQQN 2d ago

I know overturning game results is a taboo topic, but if any game will ever need to be overturned, its this one.

u/InfamousCattle3223 Michigan Wolverines 2d ago

It’s so cut and dry if you use your brain. The play just never should have happened. If you can’t get that overturned than nothing will ever get overturned.

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u/Francis_X_Hummel Colorado Mines • Wyoming 2d ago

At first I was furious, but now, I prefer this outcome because UM will eat more shit for this than if they had lost, and they deserve to eat every morsel of shit they can possibly eat.

u/EvenMeaning8077 Penn State Nittany Lions 2d ago

Fine but Western Michigan team deserves this win period

u/Francis_X_Hummel Colorado Mines • Wyoming 2d ago

yeah they do, I want that for their players man, they fought

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u/00trysomethingnu Tennessee Volunteers 2d ago

“We wish we could go back and change things but we can’t…ruling stands”

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u/Freedjet27 Central Michigan Chippewas 2d ago

Fuck it. MAC vs everybody

u/Interesting-Ebb6378 2d ago

I was so geeked for the start of College Football Saturdays, and this has completely ruined it for me.

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u/bigdknight157 UCF Knights 2d ago

There has been a lot of talk about integrity of the sport. Rightfully so in the wake of Sorsby and Texas Tech. But I’d argue this situation was just as, if not more egregious than gambling. It is one of the most clear 4k examples of cheating ever seen. And the B1G puffed their chests over the concept of integrity of the sport just a few short weeks ago.

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u/bipbophil Ohio State Buckeyes • Big Ten 2d ago

Not to mention all the holding on the last drive, they did all they could to give the game back

u/iDrum17 Ohio State Buckeyes • Toledo Rockets 2d ago

MAC needs to sue the Big Ten and NCAA. this couple absolutely be overturned.

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u/Disastrous_Wind_7005 2d ago

The MAC should sue the B1G, the officials and the NCAA for the travesty that was allowed to happen. The officials were TERRIBLE the whole game!

u/_jt33_ 2d ago

There's no way you let that result stand. You do whatever you have to do in order to get it overturned including lawyering up.

u/Due-Competition2932 BYU Cougars 2d ago

Two years ago, referees added a second to the end of the clock in the BYU Arizona State game. The review took about 10 minutes and was at least questionable.

This review was done in less than two minutes, and anyone who watches the clip can clearly see that the wrong decision was made.

One of the only times I’ve ever genuinely thought that something was rigged.

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u/Lefthook16 Alabama Crimson Tide 2d ago

Theoretically a judge in Western Michigan could step in.... If the game was wrongly officiated we saw the end happen.

u/Just-Forever6684 2d ago

B1G when he calls: Hey, we rigged it, what the fuck are you going to do about it? Get over it. Enjoy your $1.5 million you poverty stricken asshole

u/buckeyefan1930 Ohio State • Hillsdale 2d ago

it was straight up rigged. as long as gambling happens...this will always continue to happen

u/FalconPunch2415 Alabama Crimson Tide 2d ago

To be fair; wouldn’t UM winning cost books more money there?

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