r/Apex_NC • u/makgeolliandsoju • 22h ago
Flock says its cameras can't track people. It also built an AI you can prompt to find a driver's "associates." WIRED got the code.
WIRED investigation, worth reading in full: https://www.wired.com/story/flock-safety-os-investigate/
In Flock's own code, served from Flock's own login pages: a system designed to take one license plate and return a driver's likely "associates" based on which cars pass the same cameras at the same times. Search for people by physical description in an area drawn on a map. Pull names, addresses, relatives. Flock has told the public for years its cameras "cannot recognize, identify, or track individuals." Asked about the tool, the company didn't dispute what it does. It called it a "separate product".
This isn't one bad product. It's the direction of the industry. WIRED found Flock hiring engineers to build AI that acts "on behalf of investigators," with automated lead generation and cross-camera correlation. A GWU law professor with no stake in the fight, Andrew Ferguson, put it plainly: we're on the cusp of "agentic policing," where natural-language chatbots searching massive datasets "will soon become the norm."
The norm. For everyone holding the data.
That's the part to understand before a vendor swap gets floated as the fix. Our police chief has named Axon as a possible replacement. But Axon isn't a lighter-touch option. Its platform pulls plate readers, cameras, drones, and dispatch into one system, shares across agencies, and it's building its own AI layer on top. That's broader than what Apex has now, not narrower. Any vendor sitting on a networked plate dataset will build the same query layer, because that's the logical use of the data. Swapping the logo changes the invoice, not the architecture.
Let me put it another one: We're one vote away from either protecting our privacy or giving it all away to APD for them to do what they want with it. Fuck that.
Contract's up January 31, 2027. Public Safety Committee meets October 1st at 3pm. This is the window.