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🚨OP's stupidly specific life event🚨 I understand when this condition is put by women, but from male landlords it's just weird

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u/Code_Monster 4d ago

Women's PG with strict rules, male landlord, no man allowed rule, mostly male staff and women washing their own cloths and cleaning their own rooms because there is male staff?

u/WeirdAssBeings šŸ†literally a femboyšŸ³ļøā€šŸŒˆ 4d ago edited 4d ago

Better check if there ain't a camera in the mf bathroom(serious) also check if your door has a seriously good lock from the inside and not the outside.

Stay safe OP.

u/DeliciousTopic328 3d ago

But OP isn't a woman?

u/PurpleCandle58 3d ago

You don’t know that

u/__Ryan_gosling 2d ago

I am of the belief that training to teach people to search for things in their houses should be common. Kind like spy movies and such but everyone has this knowledge

u/WeirdAssBeings šŸ†literally a femboyšŸ³ļøā€šŸŒˆ 2d ago

We shouldn't have to, that's the problem

u/__Ryan_gosling 2d ago

I agree nobody should have to(unless you are like a war criminal or genuine monster) but its a fucked up world so preventative measures are all we can do.

u/Vermillion_Pengu 3d ago

Get a gun

u/YourTrustySupporter JUSTICE FOR SUPPORT ROLE IN GAMING 4d ago edited 4d ago

That not even stupid specific life event, that just sad relatable life event

im tired of this bullcrap, i have a university that very far from my home and most of the student apartments i go through have a sign saying "only for girls".

thank to GOD that my grandparent home is close to it or else i would crashed out for ENTIRE FUCKING YEAR

u/pleasehelpteeth 4d ago

What country is this? If its the US it would breach the fair housing act unless its a room in an existing lease or owner occupied.

u/AmbiTheAirforceRuna 4d ago

And in the EU too, but the thing is, its only gonna be a breach if someone reports it. Most of us just scroll past it cose its almost always a creep looking for a wife who pays to be there.

(In uni there was an ad for one where id have to have no guests over unless they were also women, help with cleaning his house I was meant to live in, and had a curfew)

u/FaithlessnessBorn266 4d ago

That's usually what it is. Somebody renting out an extra room. At least from what I've seen in states

u/AwkwardBet5632 3d ago

It is still a breach to advertise the fact.

u/pleasehelpteeth 3d ago

No its not. Theres explciit exemptions withing the fair housing act.

There is nothing illegal about someone posting they are looking for a new roomate but they only want women or men.

u/Utahteenageguy 4d ago

And they’re always like $200 less then the male apartments to.

u/Souls_for_sale_now 4d ago

sounds like grounds for discrimination in the us and most of the eu at least

u/YourTrustySupporter JUSTICE FOR SUPPORT ROLE IN GAMING 4d ago

Problem is people who have that issue arent in those places

u/Some_Guy223 4d ago

Try that in Spain at least, and you get laugh out of the relevant government offices. Ask me how I know.

u/lordof67 4d ago

How do you know?

u/2Rats4Dinner 4d ago

Southerners will forever remain barbarians. Ask me how I know.

u/NetStaIker 4d ago

Time to sue, win and then still lose money to the lawyer

u/This_Elk_1460 4d ago

Silly goose men can't be discriminated against /s

u/ThePythagorasBirb 3d ago

I have the opposite issue, there are only men's houses available. And even those are few and expensive:(

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u/Iwritemynameincrayon 4d ago

My first thought if a guy is renting only to women is to be extremely concerned and assume he put cameras all over the house. I shouldn't have that as my first thought, but I don't think I am alone in thinking like this either.

u/wydaleny_dwoiczy_lod 4d ago

EXACTLY. IT'S CREEPY

u/Futur3_ah4ad 4d ago

That's my first thought too, honestly.

The fact we even got to this point should tell you that several things went very, very wrong in the past couple of years.

u/SlapTheBap 4d ago

This isn't anything new. Creeps renting apartments out has always been a thing. Hell, there are guys who only rent to other guys on the "down low".

Might be new to you, but creeps and people who like to use others without their consent are just an aspect of humanity. Nothing new.

u/linus140 4d ago

It all started when Harambe died 😭 that's when we entered this weird alternate reality.

u/JediKnightNitaz 4d ago

Nah bro it started earlier, when that stupid fish decided it wants to live on land.

u/linus140 4d ago

Touche

u/Futur3_ah4ad 4d ago

I will never take anyone who still yaps about that fuckass gorilla seriously.

u/linus140 4d ago

Oh me either, I just kinda go with the meme of that's when shit hit the fan and timeline we're on started.

u/Fittsa Certified FangBites Expert 4d ago

couple of years?

u/shinjidrivekari 4d ago edited 4d ago

nah it's mostly cause of the stigma that young men cause havoc and are a pain to deal with

u/yuckella 4d ago

That too, both things can be true at once.

u/-who-i 4d ago

Nah that valid

u/Groundbreaking_Pea_3 3d ago

Women renting to only women I get especially if it’s just a room, but if it’s a guy that’s definitely creep behavior

u/HoneyFucker3000 4d ago

haven't seen this gif in like a hot min

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u/TheHentaiAltAccount 4d ago

Saw a listing that said "Female only. LDS Standards, YSA age." (Young Single Adult)

Only for women, but also requires you to be LDS, young, and single.

"No pets, clean up after yourself and contribute to cleaning"

Contribute??? Are they living with him???

u/air-bonsai 4d ago

What’s LDS?

u/wydaleny_dwoiczy_lod 4d ago

DDG says church of LatterDay Saints, so, Mormons, but I'm not sure that's what they meant

u/TheHentaiAltAccount 4d ago

It is, that's what Mormon's call themselves

u/shinjidrivekari 3d ago

What's DDG?

u/GremlinboyFH 3d ago

DuckDuckGo, search engine

u/shinjidrivekari 3d ago

I use DuckDuckGo and still was confused. Why tf would one even use the acronym??

u/Tight-Strain-3283 4d ago

Mormon rebrand to get away from all the bad PR mormonism has.

u/longshlongthankumom 3d ago

Latter Day Saint aka a Mormon

Started calling themselves that because "mormon" is now a slur to them

u/GrouchyLettuce2741 3d ago

Except it’s okay again because the prophet that didn’t like the word Mormon is dead now. Now they’re suing a podcast because apparently they own the legal rights to the word.

u/NotNightDweller dm me tasty images 4d ago

Makes you wanna rent… a girlfriend

u/sonyplaystation34 4d ago

I'm pretty sure the only reason i got my current apartment is because of that, but what the landlord doesn't know is that im taking testosterone and don't look like a girl anymore

u/Aickavon 4d ago

ā€œMentlegen!ā€

u/Previous-Grab3518 4d ago

That tenant is a spy!

u/Keksbutter123 3d ago

As a real trans person, I approve of this mischief. Now go out there young lad, and safe your 200 bucks

u/sonyplaystation34 3d ago

thanks miss :p

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u/Homicidal_Duck 4d ago

Believe me trans women don't get an easier time of this - they just go "oooh actually we meant AFAB only" which is a lovely woke way of calling trans women men

u/GarlicStreet3237 4d ago

Yeah that'll do it

u/Old-Acanthaceae-3406 3d ago

yeah, wouldn't want anyone without divine wombynly energy cluttering up the place. 🫩 sucks

u/LC-Redcube 3d ago

tbf OP is mainly referring to the creepy male landlords, which will probably not realize it lol

u/MiraclezMatter 4d ago

I’m in a situation like this. Male only living space. I just took my first dose of estrogen yesterday. We will see how long I can last here because the rent and location are great and it’s a unicorn landlord that lives on location and takes care of all the problems in the house themself. I don’t want to leave but I am not going another day without doing HRT just to live here.

u/Technical-Ad8588 4d ago

Gender-affirming eviction

u/complexiblebarracuda 4d ago

hey if they're a huge bigot you just have to trick them into saying "You'll never be a girl" and then you're goldenĀ 

u/fake_frank 4d ago

I mean, you can just kinda lie to your landlord and say you're a dude that just happens to take estrogen, or at the very least genderfluid so you're always male when you live there. No matter what angle he'd take you'd come on top since your sex is on paper as male, and if going by gender you decide.

There's people who take testosterone and estrogen for health reasons, where their natural body balance is out of whack, but them taking or not taking those doesn't change their gender, so any BS about having x amount of estrogen/testosterone in you would be complete bs as a reason to kick you out.

u/sweetheart_demom 4d ago

Babe they might let a guy in but they will NEVER let a transfem in

ask me how i know

u/wydaleny_dwoiczy_lod 4d ago

I think you can just kill them for false advertisement. Or at least you should be allowed to

Landlords, grrr [read as FRANZOSEN meme]

u/Conscious_Smile8235 4d ago

What

u/Admiral1805 4d ago

Lots of apartments and rooms for rent are marked as "female only". Which is kinda a hassle when you aren't a woman and don't plan on becoming one.

u/RecursiveNightmares 4d ago

Sounds illegal.

u/pleasehelpteeth 4d ago

If its a room in someone's house its completly legal. If its someone looking to add someone to their lease its legal.

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u/Big-Farmer-2192 4d ago

Well from the sounds of these comments. Apparently it's a common discrimination against men in asia/east asia and some country in europe.

u/KimJongUnusual 4d ago

And like /u/pleasehelpteeth said, depending on the size of what it is, you are allowed to discriminate in the US. If it if your home, or you own a small number of apartments, or the apartments are connected to your living space (like a twoflat or something) you are allowed to discriminate.

u/wydaleny_dwoiczy_lod 4d ago

Was Asia mentioned there?

u/Conscious_Smile8235 4d ago

Gotta go with what u/RecursiveNightmares said. That just sounds... well, illegal.

u/RennyWasEaten 4d ago

i know i'm being very stupid when i ask this, but why do female landlords do this? as far as i'm aware the tenant isn't living WITH the landlord so i don't understand exactly the danger. i ask this because i am an idiot so please understand i'm not asking this in mean spirit

u/wydaleny_dwoiczy_lod 4d ago

Living space may be shared if only a room is rented (which I was looking for, since whole flats are too expensive)

u/RennyWasEaten 4d ago

oh okay

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u/ColonialismHater 4d ago

it's weird when it's women too lol

u/wydaleny_dwoiczy_lod 4d ago

If it's female landlords it can be for the sake of feeling safe and can be understandable. If it's male landlord I can't help but read it as creepy

u/chuueeriies 4d ago

"Feeling safe" sexism but with extra steps.

u/wydaleny_dwoiczy_lod 4d ago

Understandable doesn't mean good, just that I can understand why. I am now irrationally wary of older men due to being SAed by one and can't really get rid of it, which also led to fear of getting old, so I get it

u/chuueeriies 4d ago edited 4d ago

Nah I mean, I understand it too. I'm just saying it's kind of funny and very sad how it's acceptable, but if we changed "men" to "black/white/hispanic/etc." people, it would suddenly change the tone dramatically, although it's EXACT same thing.

Prejudice and all that.

But nah, I am not blaming you for seeking comfort and safety, everyone wants that. Sadly we have double standards about what is acceptable and what isn't.

In any case I do understand why it would be needed. I'd rather see people who got assaulted live in environment where they feel completely safe, rather than drown in stress having to live next to people who remind them of the assault every day.

It is sexist, but I'm ok with that. We as a society aren't ready to move past rape/murder/etc.

Off topic, I have no clue why your comments are disliked so much

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u/AlwekArc 4d ago

See I can tell you aren't a woman because oh my god "woman wanting a place to live that feels safe is sexism" like shut the fuck up

u/The1Sbeve 4d ago

What it’s both sexism AND feeling safe, what if it’s wholeheartedly prejudice that’s justifiable? Why does it always have to be either/or, why not both/and?

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u/jasisonee 4d ago

Many women are liberal/feminist. You're just assuming stuff to justify to yourself to dismiss someone.

u/LiterallyAna purpl 4d ago

Sexism is when women supporting other women

u/ShadowGamer37 4d ago

Sexism is when you discriminate on another gender based on stereotypes

u/wild_vika purpl 4d ago

women don't deserve safety because poor male feelies can get hurt?

u/wydaleny_dwoiczy_lod 4d ago

Almost didn't get place of residence in other city which would fuck up with higher education. I UNDERSTAND when female landlords do this (with male landlords pure creepyness), but it's consequences are not just hurt feelings

And insinuation that safety only possible with other women is weird, it would, too, be a feeling. Feeling of safety, but still feeling

u/Ulfurson 4d ago

It’s not safety, it’s a feeling of safety. In other words:

ā€œMy own prejudices make me uncomfortable and I’m going to make that everyone else’s problemā€

It’s a silly and bigoted way to think, but it’s their right to do business only when they choose.

u/TheHebrewHammer69 4d ago

Yeah this person is not gonna be able to understand that nuance.

Me woman now me get into women safe space is about as far as she thinks.

Male privilage at it's finest.

u/jimmylovescheese123 twink chaser chaser 4d ago

do you know the difference between hurt feelings and not being able to find affordable housing because you were born as a rape and murder person

u/Ill-Entrepreneur443 4d ago

Youre not wrong. It is pretty creepy.

u/SomeObsidianBoi 4d ago

sexism: āŒāŒāŒ šŸ‘Ž šŸ‘Ž

sexism, by women: āœ”ļø āœ”ļø āœ”ļø šŸ‘šŸ˜

u/Spudemi purpl 4d ago

but like is the land lord on the property most times?

u/wydaleny_dwoiczy_lod 4d ago

I was searching for renting a room, not the whole flat, and it's usually just people who's children grew up and they have spare room (or otherwise just someone with only one flat), so... Yeah

u/Spudemi purpl 4d ago

Riiiight fair enough

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u/Cynunnos 4d ago

OP where do you even live. I've never heard of any apartment like this

u/wydaleny_dwoiczy_lod 4d ago

Tried to rent a place in Minsk for the school year due to not getting a place in dormitory

u/SpecialOutcast 4d ago

Ah its Belarus it makes sense now

u/RaisinsPerDay 4d ago

Happens a lot in US college towns as well

u/Puinfa 4d ago

Brazil too

u/Lingwista321 4d ago

In Poland it's very common too, as "men will take care of the place worse" šŸ™„

u/nelisjanus 4d ago

All over in the Netherlands

u/jonatanenderman 4d ago

Italy too

u/unhappy_femboy_1028 4d ago

I've seen it in Australia as well.

u/Clear-Annual2424 4d ago

In Sweden there is no such thing

u/Leather-Statement914 4d ago

Gang what anime is this from? Can a brother get some sauce?

u/K11ShtBox 4d ago

Music video

u/Just_Games_and_stuff I love LGBTQIA+ 4d ago

Well, what's the music video

u/TotemGenitor 4d ago edited 4d ago

u/sevenderis they don't sleep anymore on the beach 4d ago

remember to remove the source identifier

u/TotemGenitor 4d ago

Thanks for the reminder, it's done now

u/exodusuno 3d ago

What does the identifier do?

u/BisonApprehensive107 3d ago

From what I've heard it tracks exactly who where and when someone clicks on a link on the Internet or somethin like that.

u/TotemGenitor 4d ago edited 4d ago

u/yuri_4_ever i love girls *kisses tummy* mmmhhhjaaa 4d ago

Everything from ?si onwards is unnecessary data harvesting that can be deletedĀ 

u/TotemGenitor 4d ago

Thanks for the reminder, it's done now

u/Kiutgh2 4d ago

I have it the other way, a woman landlord that rents out exclusively to men, and I live there. She says it's "because men are less trouble to deal with" which eh take it as you will idk

u/Powerful_Net_1873 4d ago

Honestly it’s just a real problem. Coming back to the US the city I was going to had post after post looking for roommate and the grand majority of them were restricted to women.Ā 

u/SayFuzzyPickles42 3d ago

That's a thing? Do they just evict you if you come out as a trans man or non-binary?

u/wydaleny_dwoiczy_lod 3d ago

Unfortunately it is

As for the second question... Probably?

u/jackofslayers 4d ago

So fucking glad this is illegal in my country

u/tethysian 4d ago

It's all a ploy to create more femboys.Ā 

u/DontDoodleTheNoodle 3d ago

Isn’t this literally unconstitutional. You can’t discriminate based off on any external identity.

ā€˜Course you have to prove it, but in this case it’s pretty cut and dry, no?

u/wydaleny_dwoiczy_lod 3d ago

Soooo, likkkke, WHICH constitution are we talking about? Because while it's implied it isn't explicitly stated in the one that applies here

u/DontDoodleTheNoodle 3d ago

The 14th Amendment (US) is pretty explicit about this.

It lead directly to Title IX.

u/wydaleny_dwoiczy_lod 3d ago

US

Your first mistake was assuming random post on Internet was made by an American ig

u/DontDoodleTheNoodle 3d ago

Meh. Majority of the userbase is American. It’s just natural to assume.

u/wydaleny_dwoiczy_lod 3d ago

Less than half of people using reddit are from USA, therefore majority of redditors are non-American. While singularly other countries have less people, when we look at entirety of reddit if you assume someone is American the likelihood of you being right is somewhat less than you guess the side of the coin when flipped, which are not good odds

u/DontDoodleTheNoodle 2d ago

And yet, the user demographic from the US is an entire order of magnitude (~10x) higher than the runner up (UK).

If you had to guess randomly, US would still be your best bet. Let’s not get pedantic about stats

u/wydaleny_dwoiczy_lod 2d ago

Except you don't guess whether the person is from US or a SPECIFIC other country, it would be useless. You guess whether they are from US or not from US and most of the time, they are not

u/DontDoodleTheNoodle 2d ago

And who are you to say what I can or can’t guess? Why reduce the assumptions to a binary format?

It’s like assuming Reddit as a whole speaks English, or not English. But I understand Spanish just fine.

u/wydaleny_dwoiczy_lod 2d ago

I'm not saying what you can do, I'm saying what you do. By guessing someone is from a specific country, the opposite is them not being from that country, not them being from a specific other country, since this is what determines whether you'd be right or wrong. When there isn't an option that is absolute majority of over 50% it is statistically better to NOT assume specific option, since whatever option you assume, you'll be wrong more often than not

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u/Sad-Condition-3854 3d ago

if only there was something we could do about landlords

u/wydaleny_dwoiczy_lod 3d ago edited 3d ago

Considering I've been looking for the room, not the whole flat, it was their only home owned, therefore if we'd get rid of anything like that you'd have renting as your ONLY option. Renting from the GOVERNMENT as only landlord. Regulation of the amount of living space owned, and conditions on which it can be rented, is the must, but getting rid of home-owning as a whole would give government too much power that I personally don't trust it with

u/KeksimusMaximusLegio 2d ago

And starve 45 million?

u/CoolSausage228 соси Ń…ŃƒŠ¹ Голбоеба кусок 4d ago

they wanna fuck you

u/_Carcinus_ 4d ago

That's what the economy is for

u/Dank_lord_doge 4d ago

Holy sexism

But it's against men so watch as no one cares

u/Entire_Asparagus2120 4d ago

This happened in an XRA episode

u/S_Caped 4d ago

I got my room in my current house (kinda) this way. It was an all-girl four bedroom house, but one of the room mates transitioned and no longer looked like a girl by the time he moved out. So like it turned into a three girl one boy house I guess.

The weird thing? It wasn't even my female roommate's idea. It was the landlord's. His rationale was that he only wanted one person per room, and girls are less likely to move their boyfriends in so he made that rule to avoid that problem. It was stupid. Anyway my roommates and I get along and we're great friends now.

u/ThirstyWolfSpider 4d ago

Tom Hanks got his first big role on TV with this gambit. ("Bosom Buddies")

u/SasparillaTango 4d ago

My understanding is that women are regarded as cleaner and less likely to cause property damage.

u/Traditional-Quit-286 3d ago

also why they pay less insurance, i got a bill for my old gender when i transitioned, when i changed my info with them i got 20 dollars cheaper

u/LC-Redcube 3d ago

that's just bs tho, and if it's a male landlord it's way more likely to be for creepy reasons

u/C_ingStarz 4d ago

As a chick I also hate womens-only rent spots. I understand having a couple, but at least in my city there's multiple 5+ floor apartment complexes for women/men only.
It's either that or it's for students only, which I also understand why you'd want a couple around town, but every other online listing having "(prioritizes student applicants)" at the very bottom pmo so bad.

I get having maybe a handful of houses or apartment complexes being dedicated to a specific group of people, but as someone trying to find an apartment for my family (which includes my father and middleschool-aged sibling), it's a pain in the ass.
Especially since we're low income, and all the affordable apartments (under $1200/mo) are either way on the outskirts of town and out of catchment for my school (that I need to attend for it's disability & flexibility programs), or are student/men/women only.
Some also state they "are looking for **insert race/religion/origin country here** applicants", which is absolutely wild when most the buildings aren't in areas of the city that are intended or primarily consist of those groups. Also really illegal but I've never heard of a landlord caring about following the law.

Anyways, this is really specific but since I'm looking for a place it pmtfo.

u/Realistic-Size-6612 4d ago

I guess it's international thing

u/djdaedalus42 4d ago

Well there was this show about two guys living in an all-women apartment building. It was called Bosom Buddies. It starred an unknown called Tom Hanks. Whatever happened to him?

u/Uxydra 4d ago

Had the same problem here in Czechia. I am going to uni and there wasn't enough dorms and I didn't get in. Tried to look for housing elsewhere but 90% were women only and the rest were too expensive. Had the to get one through my uncle who has a lot of connections in the city.

u/Karasu-Fennec 4d ago

My state just made it legal to discriminate against trans people in this type of housing šŸ™ƒ

u/YRUSoCruel 4d ago

prob bc women are usually seen as more delicate and clean, so the place would be trashed less

u/Futur3_ah4ad 4d ago

If it's a male landlord then it's almost guaranteed to be for creepy reasons instead.

No landlord should be remotely bothered by the gender of their tenants, as long as they pay their rent.

u/shinjidrivekari 4d ago

that's just an unreasonable assumption. from what I've seen most landlords who only rent to women do it die to the stigma that young men cause havoc and are a pain to deal with.

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u/Peechez 4d ago

Yeah that's horse shit lmao

u/Scynati purpl 4d ago

Yeah no I'm the "delicate and clean" girl but my god I'm messy af (no food though)
video is literally what I mean

https://reddit.com/link/p7s511k/video/cghgaz84finh1/player

u/RavenEridan 4d ago

Gynocentrism and promoting gender roles

u/Enditium 4d ago

The only case where i understand gender requirements is if you are renting a room in the house you live in and even then only for the same gender.

u/stout_shako_gaming 4d ago

In my city landlords(i was renting while being poor student) like "when i checking you, walls must be solid, and floor must not have non-expected holes, i wont tolerate 15 illegal migrants living with you and mails from police, if you making moonshine here, i want a share, everything other is allowed"

u/Blackadder288 3d ago

This reminds me of a situation I was in. I had a roommate interview with a woman. She told me that while I was her second choice, she decided to go with another young woman as she thought it would be a better match.

Like five years later, I join a bicycling club and I became friends with someone who turned out to be that young woman who was selected over me, and she said I dodged a massive bullet with the original owner. Turns out my gender saved me from a bad roommate situation.

u/Lord-ofthe-Ducks 3d ago

Tom Hanks once stared in a show about this very thing.

u/demon_corex 3d ago

Anime?/ music video?

u/wydaleny_dwoiczy_lod 3d ago

Someone sent it already in the comments

https://youtu.be/yYAgBRO-aT8

u/ASpaceOstrich 3d ago

The people who do this are near universally transphobic. So this sadly doesn't work

u/TheRavenOfLenore 3d ago

Czy OP jest z Krakowa?

u/wydaleny_dwoiczy_lod 3d ago

Belarus, was looking for a place in Minsk

u/DifferentIsPossble 3d ago

This isn't even oddly specific, it's everywhere in the Netherlands as a student. Like, I'm too old and too tired to detransition around a landlord.

u/breno280 3d ago

Je kan altijd kraken.

u/Spodermanphil 2d ago

Genderfluid people be like

u/G0bboParty 4d ago

Hey, lets not contribute to transphobic stereotypes that trans women are men pretending to be women for personal gain and not, you know, just women

u/wydaleny_dwoiczy_lod 4d ago

Certainly wasn't the intention as it wasn't meant to say anything about trans people, just weird renting practice

u/G0bboParty 4d ago

Those weird rent practices are rooted both in transphobia and misogyny

u/Tar-Minastur 4d ago

Please explain how discrimination against men is rooted in mysogyny.

u/Trevski 4d ago

Only women do the domestic labour needed to keep up the rental unit

u/truesheep1 4d ago

How? It's targeting men because they are believed to cause more damage or live in a dirtier way that can harm the building (ex mold conditions).

u/_-_Polaris_-_ 3d ago edited 3d ago

ngl tho, as a trans woman you could never tell apart, this is sadly true. This is not men whining or some bs like that. State of our society. blink blink puppy eyes, often not even that, and you get the benefit unless you are ugly. Hey I am just observing and have been for good 18 years with those differences. It is not all situatons. But rent, police, guards, social security, haggling and so on almost certainly. Good for me but it still upsets me. It should not make a difference.

u/jelly_wishes 4d ago

In Spain it's pretty common in student apartments. The landlord/landlady doesn't live in the apartment. I rented a room for a few months from a woman who only rented to girls and according to her it's because she had a bad experience cleaning wise with a bunch of male students. She didn't kick them out but basically decided that from that point on, she would only take female tenants and she has been happy with the change. Of course, not all women are clean and not all men are dirty, not at all. But I have to say that in my experience, a female only apartment is typically much cleaner. Not all because all the female tents are clean, but because at least 1 or 2 are, so they compensate for the rest if they don't clean much. Both my partner and a male friend have experienced being the only dude that cleans anything in their respective shared apartments and it's hell. They weren't male-exclusive apartments either, but since there are many female-only apartments, gender neutral ones typically fill up with dudes and women don't want to live there anymore (the exception to that is groups of friends to rent toguether, there are many mixed friend groups).

u/Powerful_Net_1873 4d ago

Ā I love how we entered a time in this world where we allow folks to discriminate based on immutable characteristics.Ā 

u/jelly_wishes 4d ago

It isn't allowed on theory, but it is on practice. I'm not saying I agree, but I do understand. Sadly, I think it is inevitable. Plus many women would rather live with women than with unknown men (myself included) so it will just keep happening.

u/Powerful_Net_1873 4d ago

Yeah. I mean, why stop there ya know?Ā 

This kind of discrimination is usually a dog whistle for other kinds.Ā 

u/jelly_wishes 4d ago

Idk but I have had shared an apartment with people of multiple nationalities. Regarding my landlady she had rooms rented to a middle-eastern girl (I don't remember which country exactly), a chinese girl, a japanese girl... She had also previously rented to a couple of African guys, who weren't the ones that motivated the change btw, rather regular white male students. I wouldn't say she was a bad person.

u/thjmze21 4d ago

Just because you don't bat an eye at discrimination doesn't make her a bad person. If a man refused to rent to women, that's misogyny. She's a bad person full stop.

u/Powerful_Net_1873 4d ago

I mean. I’m not going to administrate your personal history, as it’s one example among many.Ā 

I too have an example of the experience of a man looking for a room to rent, it’s not very positive.Ā 

The three postings that were available when I was looking for a room in the East Coast USA, were a frat house, another without parking available, and one other choice that I originally intended to go with, but they had a mold issue on the property.Ā 

Had my girlfriend d vouch for me with some other postings due to the limited availability of spaces for men.Ā 

Eventually found one really great place, but if I didn’t have someone equipped with a vagina vouching for me, I would have been stuck with some terrible options.Ā 

I think this is a privilege I can acknowledge that women have in society that men currently do not.Ā