r/learnthai Oct 28 '25

Resources/ข้อมูลแหล่งที่มา r/learnthai resources: Wiki

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Many resources from this sub have all collected and organised in our r/learnthai/wiki):
- & general resources
- & FAQ
- & listening & watching
- and reading & writing

We keep monitoring this resource collection thread by u/JaziTricks, so feel free to keep adding resources there.


r/learnthai Oct 11 '25

Resources/ข้อมูลแหล่งที่มา Textbooks Frequency List v2

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Overview

The original frequency list is the 2016 work of Dr. Tantong Champaiboon (Ph.D. from Chulalongkorn University, Linguistics Department). She studied a corpus of textbooks for Thai students age 3-16 yo. The list is organised by various dimensions: measures of complexity of the vocabulary, comparison across 4 age ranges and 4 historical and current curricula.

The แจ่มไพบูลย์/แรช Frequency List for Thai Learners v2 is the enhanced version of the list as adapted for (English-speaking) Thai learners. v1 in the same sub.

Major caveat

The original study is useful to us adult Thai learners because of its domain: school textbooks. The small size, however, is an issue (only around 3 M words). As you go down the index number (first column), the probability that the word has that rank in real life decreases rapidly; it is not linear. To put it in other words: words number 1 to 9-10,000 are highly likely to be in the 20,000 most used words IRL; but if you take word number, say 16,000, all you can assert is that it is likely amongst the 50,000 most used words. The index is indicative of rank, but is not strictly a rank, take it with a pinch of salt. Index is an indication of rank — in the corpus [yes, em-dash]. If your preferred domain to learn Thai is lakorn or news, แล้วแต่คุณ.

How many words do we need?

Do we need all 19,494 words? No. 110 words represent half the corpus, and slightly less than 2,100 represent 90%. And with say 6-7,000, you could read any of the textbooks at Extensive Reading level (95-98% Paul Nation, 2005), the first word reaching 95% cumulative frequency is at rank 3,856, the last 98% is at 8,361. On the other hand, 13,600 words are present in 3 or all 4 of the source dictionaries (see section ‘sources’), so they compose a ‘hard’ core of the Thai language (see the hexagon-based chart in the doc).

Furthermore, if you want to produce a list of 2,000 words with complex spelling, or 3,000 compound words, which are more than the sum of their parts, (see section ‘examples of use’), you need more than 2-3,000 overall. So, this long list gives us learners the flexibility we need, based on individuals’ goals.

For a description of all columns and their possible values, see the ‘Notice’ tab in the sheet, or the full docs in github. We will highlight key changes with v1. More dimensions have been added in this version (see below).

Stats: 19,494 words, 1,169 repeat-words, 2/3-rds of the words have examples. ~60% have audio available; audio caveat: the links to Wikimedia are effective, but have not been verified one by one. I have not yet received authorisation to share the files for the ‘audio’ column (value=1) I will update here if and when. Don’t bother DM-ing to ask for the files.

Key changes with v1

  • all words in the original list are now included (19,494 instead of ~16k).
  • all words have IPA phonetics and a sensible romanisation, with tones;
  • only 329 words have no meaning attached;
  • there should be no repeated meanings, meanings have been tidyed up. 93% of the list now has only 1-2 senses.
  • Experimental features: (these are denoted in the sheet with a tag of [exper.])
    • repeat-words are pointing back to their base-word, when it exists in the list.
    • some compounds not found in dictionaries point to their (poss.) component-words, when it exists in the list.
    • loan-words: most are translated and have a transliteration (though a few defeat us). The transliteration is included so that we can learn to pronounce these words the Thai way, and thus be understood.
  • new column: Classifiers – out of 9178 nouns, 3244 (35%) have 1 or more classifiers (Thai word + transliteration).
  • changed: column 1 is now 'index'. Use it in combo with the last 2-3 columns on the right to produce your learning lists.

A note on meanings/senses: Why are all senses of a word aggregated? Can you not emphasise the most frequent meaning? One of the key findings of the original thesis is that when a word is introduced to children at a given level, all senses/facets of this word are also introduced, i.e. they are not developed over time.

Examples of usage

430 grammar words have a sense, and most have one or more examples - good to find out which you already know, and which you should research or ask your teacher. Note that most rank pretty high in frequency, that figures.

Concentrate first on say the 3,000 top ranked words (or however many rocks your boat, it doesn't matter). If the Ministry of Education determined that these are the words a 6yo should know, that's a good start.

If you are learning to read, and have acquired a decent level with consonants and vowels, you can set a filter on column "Spell" to the values over 1. This will give you a list of words with unwritten /a/ and /o/ and linking syllables (a.k.a. shared vowels). Or just plenly irregular. Many have example sentences and all have a transliteration with tone to learn the correct way to articulate these irregular words. You can practice on the examples. Tone marks is arguably what Thai learners need most even after they can read consonants and vowels. We can then learn these words by rote and learn to recognise their spelling.

Sources & licences

The thesis (link), as far as I can tell is in the public domain.
Lexitron v2: (link) NECTEC licence.
Wiktionary ((link) is licenced under CC BY-SA 4.0 (Attribution-Share Alike 4.0 International)
Volubilis v. 25.2 (link), also under CC BY-SA 4.0.
The Royal Institute Dictionary 1999 is also under NECTEC licence.

"This product is created by the adaptation of LEXiTRON developed by NECTEC."
This frequency list is shared under CC BY-SA 4.0, including the mention above as work derivative from a NECTEC production.

Links

Google sheets

If you have suggestions, the sheet is now not only public, but open for comments. However, if you disagree with some of the meanings, you should likely take it with the corresponding dictionary authors. I welcome any constructive criticism.

The Other link: github docs 22/10/205 major update

TLDR

A Thai word frequency list of ~20k words used in the primary and secondary school textbooks, with various dimensions to cut and slice custom lists.


r/learnthai 6h ago

Resources/ข้อมูลแหล่งที่มา I made hangman for Thai

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No ads, no subscriptions.

Demo: https://youtube.com/shorts/w9JjIPpGCYU

iPhone: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/vocab-arcade/id6794041084

Android: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.reckonertechnologies.vocabarcade

I made this because I thought it would be more fun than Anki.

Let me know what you think.


r/learnthai 3h ago

Discussion/แลกเปลี่ยนความเห็น How to learn thai language?

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r/learnthai 20h ago

Discussion/แลกเปลี่ยนความเห็น High tone is messing me around [RANT]

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Been intensely studying thai for three months, and I can read basic sentences and words and can write basic sentences and words and can also recognise words based on spelling now too ! I can speak a bit, but my pronunciation isnt the best yet. Thai people seem to understand me though, and I never have any problems ordering food and getting what I want (despite living in a place that has almost no foreigners). However, thai tones have always had me STUMPED and my classes havent focused too much on them until now (I knew how to recognise what tone a word was based on how it was written like live and dead syllables, etc, and I can reverse engineer spelling if you give me the romansied version with a tone marker, I can work out how's it's spelt based on it, unless it's got some weird pali/sanskrit thing going on) but I never understood how each tone was supposed to sound.

Anyway, back to the tones. Falling tone to me, I always thought that based on the name, it would be a lot lower, but no? It starts suprisingly high and then goes low quite dramatically, and rising tone is the opposite. I always thought it would be the other way around, like rising would be 90% high with like 10% low, and falling would be 10% high with 90% low, but it's more like...gradual? Idk how to explain it, but I know it when i hear it now.

And mid tone for me was always the easiest one so that wasnt an issue (which is surprising because apparently mid tone is quite difficult for a lot of english speakers. My thai ajaarn said tho that a lot of his american students struggle with high and rising). Same with low tone. But high tone is what's really messing me around. I can do mid tone pretty consistently, i'm almost always nailing rising and falling, and low is a bit of a struggle but I know it's because I'm not going low enough, so I know how to fix it. But high for me is WHAT??? I know when I'm saying the tone wrong, like i can HEAR it. But it's like my mouth and brain aren't on speaking terms with one another. My ajaarn said that my high sounds like falling, so I'm guessing that I'm dropping down at the end and not staying high enough? I recorded myself saying it right, so I'm gonna keep practicing but holy shit, tones are so hard. I'm just glad I can hear my own mistakes.

Anyway, not really looking for advice, just wanted to rant a little. On a brighter note, it's so COOL being able to read words from a different language that has a completely different alphabet !! Like, I'll walk past a sign and be like "omg, โรงพยาบาล!!!" Or I'll be able to read off a menu without needing an english version and it's just so cool. But at the same time, it can be overwhelming because I'm processong so much more than before, yk?? Like i'll be out and about and I'll here someone say "mai ao!! Mai ao!!" Or "bpaep neung khaa" (sorry for bad romanisation, my typing is slow lol) and 3 months ago, it wouldve been meaningless/white noise, but now understand it. It's so neat.

Anyway, random rant lol.


r/learnthai 16h ago

Discussion/แลกเปลี่ยนความเห็น Need a 13-month syllabus to learn "acceptable" Thai

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I want to put together a 13-month self-study plan for learning Thai, starting May 13th, and I'm hoping to get some direction on how to structure it.

What I mean by "acceptable": I'm aiming for basic to intermediate conversational ability, enough to handle normal day-to-day life, goods and services, light business, and everyday speech. I do plan to enroll in an actual Thai course once we move abroad, toward the end of next year, but I want to hit the ground running now so I can communicate with family in Thailand before then.

What I need: a 13-month syllabus I can work through in 1 to 2 hours a day, at least 5 days a week. A mix of online resources, reading material on tablet or phone, and audio instruction is all fine, I just want it structured enough that I'm learning steadily without overwhelming myself.

A little about me: I'm 55, a native US English speaker, and I know a bit of Spanish and Japanese. Since I'll be living with my wife in Thailand, I want to walk in already knowing something instead of starting from zero. Right now that's just a handful of basic words and how to count.

Priorities: functional stuff first, like telling time (even though they use military time there), then everyday practical vocabulary. Speaking is my top priority, with reading and eventually writing coming later. Not because I think speaking matters more, it's just how my brain works best. Kids learn to speak before they learn to write, and I'm following that same order.

Resources I'm already looking at: Pimsleur Thai, which seems intuitive so far, but their first lesson block only covers about 30 days, so I'm guessing it'll take me closer to double that pace. I'm also checking out Memrise for Thai, and considering the Thai for Beginners book from Paiboon Publishing, along with their Thai dictionary.

If anyone can point me toward other reputable, proven resources to round this out, I'd really appreciate it. Thanks for reading.


r/learnthai 1d ago

Grammar/ไวยากรณ์ "Already" when แล้ว doesn't quite work

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We all know that "already" is usually translated as แล้ว, but at the same time they're not exactly the same.

Imagine you're in some app and you try to enter "fast mode". If you get a messagebox saying "already in fast mode", that means that you have not just entered it. It is an error message saying your attempt to enter fast mode didn't do anything. In Thai, am I right that คุณได้เข้าแฟสท์โมดแล้ว would mean that you have just entered fast mode? If so, how would it be phrased if you wanted to say that nothing happened because you were already in fast mode when you tried to make the change?

To be clear, this is just an example. I'm not actually working on an app.


r/learnthai 2d ago

Studying/การศึกษา How do you even learn thai???

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I am so confused.... this is so overwhelming the letters and the pronunciation. I started with thai alphabets but I cannot do them too.

Help!!


r/learnthai 1d ago

Resources/ข้อมูลแหล่งที่มา Wanna learn and thai typing

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hello my fellow friends, i am still working on my lil website which name is typingfix, and i am solo person who is building it so you might get some bugs here too, but also i manage to built typing test platform who support Thai typing with IME and its native cpm/wpm speed Metrix. and also here i add multiple features, so 😅, i feel happy if my all efforts help you a lil bit.

even currently i am working on a mature and advanced typing tutor.

thank you!

(note: i am not including any kinda pro version neither i'm thinking)


r/learnthai 1d ago

Studying/การศึกษา To learn with

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Hello, can someone help me learn thai. It's better to learn with someone who's an expert.


r/learnthai 2d ago

Studying/การศึกษา Are these sentences natural and correct?

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Are these sentences natural and correct?

1) เริ่มต้นจากหวานแล้วเปลี่ยนขม (trying to say: what began as sweet turned bitter)

2) ทะเลาะกันจบด้วยผลเลิก (trying to say: The fight resulted in a breakup)


r/learnthai 2d ago

Studying/การศึกษา 100 hours Thai update - I guess I am learning Thai

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I am about to hit 100 hours of Thai comprehensible input which puts me at the start of Level 2 using Dreaming Spanish levels (hours ×2 as I know no related language) or just after the start of Level 2 using Lengualytics.

Why am I learning Thai?

Over the past year or two I have gradually consumed more media from Thailand. I started with graphic novels/webtoons, then TV series, and then a book. I was rewatching one of my favourite series and I realised I was missing the meaning of some of the lines. I therefore got the urge to learn Thai.

Why am I using only comprehensible input?

I am not sure my reasoning for learning Thai is the best and I honestly thought I would get bored of it quickly. Also, I am familiar with CI as I learnt Spanish with Dreaming Spanish. However, with Spanish, I was not fully bought into only CI and did a small but pretty constant amount of grammar study alongside CI. Therefore I decided to try learning Thai by pure CI because:

The videos are free online

I have very few commitments in my life right now

It feels less like work and more like fun

My goals are currently around passive use of language (watching and reading)

I was interested in seeing how it felt learning using only CI compared with my experience with Spanish

How was level 1?

Despite having watched probably 30 TV series plus some related content over the past year, I started with literally 0 Thai words. Not even greetings. This is good evidence that you are wasting your time if you use NL subtitles for extensive listening!

At the start, it was really difficult and much more so than Spanish. The language is tough and the super beginner videos of DS are better CI quality. This is not meant to insult Comprehensible Thai: the B0 playlist is 4 years old now and I think DS has learnt so much in that time about how to make very accessible content.

Doing a full 30 mins was hard at first so I alternated 10 mins watching with chores, scrolling reddit for inspiration, or 10 mins watching a series with NL subtitles. (Thai CI people! I think there is a need for more shorter videos at super beginner level). Gradually I have increased my Thai concentration time but I don't expect to be watching endlessly for several 100 more hours.

How have I tracked my hours?

I started with a spreadsheet but I have changed that recently to using Lengualytics. Basically my motivation has ebbed and flowed and I wanted an easier way to track progress. Using Lengualytics has been a mostly positive experience. As an additional benefit, because there are so few Thai learners using it, I find the pressure to rate the difficulty as accurately as possible helps to keep me focussed on the video. I am sorry to future learners if I got the ratings wrong!

So far it have watched:

Comprehensible Thai Original Structured Absolute Beginner Course

Comprehensible Thai B0 

Superbeginner Thai with KhrooYing 

And I am working through:

Comprehensible Thai B1 

Riam Thai Beginner Thai 

Pure Listening Beginner Thai with Khroo Ying

How is my level now?

I can understand the general concepts in beginner videos. Because true super beginner videos are few, I only now feel the videos are at my level. I have also picked up the odd word in conversations in TV series e.g. two characters shopping and talking about colours of clothes.

I don't feel my progress after level 1 is that much different compared with Spanish but it might be too early to be noticeable. I am definitely worried that the low comprehensibility and the long videos might be having an effect.

Do I understand TV series more?

On a cultural level, I now understand the geography and foods of Thailand slightly. My first videos about foods were very confusing as I could only recognise about one fruit or vegetable per video. I am now paying more attention to foods in the series I watch.

I honestly did not expect to understand the “deeper meaning” of words until at least 600 hours and more like 1000 hours. However, at about 20 hours I learnt a word that sounds like Nam and then at 30 hours I learnt a word that sounds like Lom, then at 50 hours Fai kind of sounds like lights/electricity…. Does this mean Din is something like Earth? Was this obvious to other people who don't speak Thai and am I being an idiot? (probably). So yes, I now understand the meaning of some names at a superficial level, success!

What are my plans for Level 2?

It's scary looking ahead at the time it takes so I am trying to make it easy for each day at a time. For level 2, I will just keep working my way through the beginner playlists.


r/learnthai 3d ago

Discussion/แลกเปลี่ยนความเห็น How to start learning thai.

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So Ive been living with a thai woman for 4 years who refuses to teach me any conversational thai.
I know how to introduce myself, count to 5 and how to ask for other people’s names and stuff but I cant carry a conversation for shit.
I do know all the bad words though.
So where do I start ?


r/learnthai 2d ago

Vocab/คำศัพท์ What’s the first thing that comes to your mind when your read this word?

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ตัวขจัดกางเกงใน?


r/learnthai 2d ago

Discussion/แลกเปลี่ยนความเห็น ขอความช่วยเหลือ🙏

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r/learnthai 3d ago

Studying/การศึกษา Beginner Thai Reading Practice: Lost and Found

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Another beginner-friendly reading exercise. A light and fun story to help you practice Thai.

Story: หายแล้วเจอ

The previous reading exercises I posted if you missed them:

The Dog Outside 7-Eleven

The Night of Letting Go


r/learnthai 4d ago

Resources/ข้อมูลแหล่งที่มา I made ThaiJam, a free Thai-learning app with guided lessons and song-based learning (iOS & Android)

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Hi r/learnthai! ThaiJam just launched, and I'd love for you to try it.

A bit of backstory: I'm a solo indie developer from Taiwan, and this started with me falling in love with Thai music. I kept putting the same songs on repeat, and after a while, I wanted to actually understand what I was singing along to.

So I'd look up a line here, a word there, and slowly Thai started to stick — not from a textbook, but from songs I already loved. At some point, I realized the app I wished existed didn't, so I built it.

Over half a year of nights and weekends later, that's ThaiJam.

The name is a little pun: จำ (jam) is the Thai word for “to remember,” so ThaiJam is about remembering Thai. It also happens to sound like a music jam, which felt right for an app built around songs.

It's free to download, and you can start learning as soon as you open it — no signup required and no ads.

Song-based learning

Paste in lyrics, link Apple Music or Spotify, or import your own audio. Every line shows Thai, transliteration, and English side by side.

You can:

  • Loop a single line.
  • Move through the song line by line.
  • Send any line straight into your review deck.
  • Use built-in song recognition to identify a Thai song you hear.

A complete path from zero to speaking

Beyond songs, ThaiJam also includes:

  • A guided learning map that takes you lesson by lesson from the alphabet to words and sentences, so you always know what to study next.
  • The full alphabet — 44 consonants and 32 vowels — with tone-marked transliteration, consonant classes (mid/high/low), and stroke-order tracing.
  • 2,000+ everyday words, sentences, and sentence patterns, all with audio and available offline once installed.
  • Spaced repetition for letters, words, and sentences, with matching, fill-in-the-blank, and word-order quizzes.
  • Pronunciation practice: hold to record and receive a score, with per-syllable tone feedback.
  • Coins and learning streaks, including a heatmap of your progress. You can spend coins to dress up Jammy, a Siamese cat mascot who cheers you on.

AI features

There's also an AI helper for a deeper dive, including:

  • An AI dictionary for looking up Thai words.
  • Lyric breakdowns.
  • Example sentences.

You can explore the alphabet, vocabulary, sentences, and review features without an account. However, I'd strongly recommend signing in with Apple or Google early on. This backs up your progress and syncs it across devices, so you won't lose your learning if you change or reset your phone.

Signing in also unlocks the AI features and lets you redeem the codes below. AI credits are tied to your account.

🎉 Launch gift

To celebrate, here are two redemption codes worth 500 AI credits each. Everyone can redeem both codes once per account, for a total of 1,000 AI credits to try the AI features on us.

Redeem by September 30, 2026, 23:59 (UTC+8) under:

Me → AI Credits → Redemption code

text TJ-NBE6-FH6U-D5DT-P6MQ TJ-3G9E-AAWB-7CK9-APQP

It's a brand-new release, so I'd genuinely appreciate your feedback and any corrections. Thanks for taking a look!

iOS: ThaiJam iOS Download

Android: ThaiJam Android Download


r/learnthai 3d ago

Studying/การศึกษา Esercizi per allenarsi con i toni?

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Dove posso trovare esercizi che mi permettono di allenarmi con i toni? In particolare penso che mi aiuterebbe qualcosa in cui devo capire la tonalità di una parola ed avere un riscontro corretto/sbagliato. Penso sia l'unico modo per esercitarmi e capire veramente. Mi vanno bene libri di soli esercizi, schede pdf, quiz online o qualsiasi altra cosa che abbia fonti attendibili così da capire quando sbaglio.

In questo momento voglio evitare i tutor madrelingua perché ho bisogno prima di capire da sola.

Edit: mi riferisco alle parole che NON hanno segni tonali, in cui si devono applicare tutte le regole dei toni thailandesi.


r/learnthai 4d ago

Studying/การศึกษา New Glossika

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In my opinion, it looks worse and works worse than before. I really don’t understand why, instead of structured sentences and a coherent plan, they’re still messing about with random sentences.


r/learnthai 5d ago

Resources/ข้อมูลแหล่งที่มา I made a free app for typing Thai the way it sounds using English

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r/learnthai 5d ago

Studying/การศึกษา My 1000hr learning journey [Progress Report]

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Hello reddit, for the past 8+ months I've been tracking every minute I spent learning Thai language and just hit 1000h today. In fact I have quite a few insights and afterthoughts from this experience, and even though I tried it to make it concise it still turned out excessively long, but hey, human rambling is always better than ai slop isn't it? I hope this helps other people plan their own study, I've personally found progress reports like these very helpful (shoutout to u/whosdamike) Feel free to skip sections that you don't find interesting or just skim through the highlighted parts.

About me:

  • 29F Polish, moved to Chiang Mai in April
  • near zero prior knowledge of Thai
  • no experience with tonal languages, some experience learning foreign languages, but in reality English is the only one I got to fluency. though i've never been nearly as serious about learning a language before.

My methodology has been quite simple - if I was doing an activity that included Thai practice I would count it towards the total time - whether it be tutored lessons, listening to content, Anki or just talking to Thai people. When I listened passively, I would usually add a multiplier like 0.5x or 0.33x, which is always a rough estimate, but my reason for tracking hours has been incentivising more study time, not being 100% accurate.

If you're looking for one of those "got fluent in x months" stories then I'll have to disappoint. At the same time I hope posting this won't undermine anyone's motivation. The hard pill to swallow is that Thai indeed does take a long time to learn. The good part is, as you long as you can consistently put in the hours, you'll see improvement every 50 or less. And just because i did it in under 9 months doesn't mean it can't be stretched into a longer period. In fact, I think you can get more bang for your buck staying consistent every day with 2-4 hours than working it up to 6-8 and dealing with cognitive fatigue. But my goal isn't to become fluent with the optimal amount of effort, instead it is to become fluent as soon as possible without burnout, because I wish to have valuable relationships with Thai people as soon as possible since I live here.

Rough breakdown of my study time -​I didn't track what I spent time on, so these are mostly guesstimated retrospectively:

  • Listening/watching content- ~585 hours (mainly Comprehensible Thai and YouTube native content, but also Pimsleur, LingQ, Glossika, news, TV shows and tiktok)
  • Anki -​ ~200 hours (this should have been much lower if I hadn't experimented with various decks, making my own cards and made the algorithm work for me way sooner)
  • Preply​ classes - 90 hours
  • IRL conversations with Thai people - 40? hours
  • Reading (mostly books, a bit of LingQ) - 30? hours
  • Texting (including asking ai to help me understand the message or to help me word/proofread my own message) - 25? hours
  • Miscallaneous​ (handwriting, grammar, Stuart Jay Raj lectures, group classes that I dropped etc) - 20 hours
  • Shadowing -​ 10 hours

Where I'm standing at today:

Vocabulary -​ I know around 2500 words including compound words. By know, I mean I can understand the meaning of word when reading and listening. I know how to pronounce them, but I don't know how to spell all of them in cases of characters where it doesn't affect the sound (e.g. if you ask me if a certain word is spelled with a ส​ or ษ, there's a high chance I won't know). I find that the number of words I can spell is growing at its own pace without conscious effort to memorise them, just by reading/texting. Btw going from 1500 to 2500 in the last three months gave me a huge comprehension boost when it comes to listening, getting to know the new vocab helped me fill out many of the blanks of the old vocab.

Speaking -​ my weakest suit. Although I'm able to sound all the sounds in isolation, it's the combination of them that defeats me. While I can build sentences I want to say with relative ease and sometimes have conversations on topics up to B1 level, pronouncing them is a whole different story. I still have to think about tones consciously unless I repeated a certain phrase tens of times. I will often catch myself straight away when sounding out the tone wrong. Some speakers will understand me easily on the first try, with others I'll need to repeat myself or rephrase, but still can get my point across rather consistently, for example when running errands like fixing a bike, doing paperwork, or at the doctor. For some reasons I still dread phone calls though 😬 A thing I noticed is the words would just flow more naturally during periods where I'd hang out with Thais more. When I go into periods of not conversing in Thai, the skill would go dormant, but I'd regain it rather quick when I get the chance to speak for a longer while again. I haven't been in a group conversation since around 600h mark so I can't comment on that, but I can imagine it would still be hard to follow and nearly impossible to participate.

Listening - more or less satisfied but pretty inconsistent. There's speakers whom I'll understand even when discussing rather complex topics, and there are times I will miss the most basic questions IRL. Hearing tones is tricky, it's like I can hear them and hardly ever confuse the words differing only by tone, but when I start thinking about it consciously I'll often identify the tone incorrect. I'm still having difficulty hearing vowel length, that's why I can't rely on listening as a way to acquire the vocabulary I haven't previously seen written.

Just to give you the idea of the stuff I usually listen to:

https://youtu.be/rN8eV2c6x3o?si=2XtvpWPGwZKU9uvF (probably around 85%-90% comprehension)

https://youtu.be/6MV-Xs6nseg?si=H4SKwJDs__emhqHE (70%-75%)

Comprehensible​ Input Intermediate 2/Advanced (varies greatly depending on the video) https://www.trueid.net/watch/th-en/series/qzDWlk124Pb3/pnMv7K9o5D52/Lv7YE2XA41pj/Y85WVNwmX90o (Japanese TV show with a Thai dub - I find foreign tv shows easier to understand than native Thai shows, but I'd like to transition to Thai content eventually​- comprehension around 70%)

TNN news -​this is a tricky one, I'm bombarded with words I know but my comprehension speed isn't quite there so I only catch every 5th sentence fully, but I can still infer the meaning from key words

Reading - feel like this is my strongest skill. I'm currently halfway through the Thai translation of Eat That Frog and I'm looking up 10-15 words per page, decreasing as I progress through the book. A full page of text takes me like 10-15 mins to read including checking up all vocab and unknown phrases/grammar. I can read modern fonts pretty consistently, albeit slower, but it only happened when I finally learned to handwrite the characters​ (around 750h mark LOL) Before that many modern fonts looked like a stroke to me. I'll sometimes get a bit confused about the tone of the syllable and will need to think about it consciously or look for a similar syllable in my head but most syllables are automatic at this point when I read. I've been reading children's stories for a while and honestly I could have moved on to easy adult non-fiction sooner. Children's stories will often contain words that aren't really used in daily life that often, like semi-obscure animal and plant names. while an easy self-help book will be filled with words I can actively use during my next conversation. But in the end the order of obtaining vocab matter that much, since at this level I'll need to know almost all of the words I encounter if I'm aiming for fluency. One is just slightly more optimal (and fun) than the other. My subvocalisation got a lot better than it was when I first started reading stories around 600hr mark, and higher reading speed has made it way more enjoyable, so I'm expecting to spend more time reading in the following months.

Writing - better than speaking but I'm not focusing on it too much outside of text messages. My handwriting is slow, but I have no desire to practice it any further.

What did I do right and what would have I done different?

The good:

  • Tracking hours. What started as a method to keep myself accountable and be able to plan my study effectively ended up being a dopamine spike everytime I added a new entry. Making me lowkey addicted to studying 5555 Some people might find tracking every single minute excessive, but as long as I accepted that there will be guesstimates here and there and this is meant to motivate me, not to reflect reality 1:1, it has been a source of satisfaction and a motivator to do more. I also have a weekly goal of 35 hours, when I don't hit it nothing happens. Obviously my motivation hasn't been unshaken every day, oftentimes I had to battle self-doubt, low self-esteem and frustration, especially after an unsatisfactory exchange with a native. But then I remembered the only way out is through and something I read that stuck with me: "hours of study is the single most reliable predictor of language proficiency"
  • Mixing focused vocabulary study with input since basically day 1. The way I see it, input alone would be highly ineffective as a means of learning vocab, especially with a complex sound system like Thai that my ears haven't fully cracked 1000 hours later. On the other hand, vocab learned in isolation is useless, and consuming input with frontloaded vocab​ helped me provide necessary context for the newly learned words. It was a very common experience for me to learn a seemingly new word in Anki and be surprised how often I encounter it naturally, finding myself wonder how I could have not noticed it earlier. Plus, the more vocab I learn, the more I get out of every hour of input. Listening to content feels like a massive vocab review at times. Getting my vocab count from 1500 to 2500 has done wonders for my comprehension of harder content (for those of you that follow CI Thai - it made me advance from beginner 3 to intermediate 2) and made my finally reach the sweet spot where I can play native videoessays and be genuinely interested in what's being said
  • Mixing the methods of study and sources of input has been great for being able to study more without boredom - at the beginning of the year I've been relying mostly on Comprehensible Thai + Anki and it was tedious to say the least. Now I have so many activities I can swap between it's much easier to get the hours in.
  • A bit of a hot take here, but I'm glad Ive been using autocorrection since the first day I started texting in Thai. I was lowkey worried it would make me too heavily reliant on it and I wouldn't be able to spell words without it. In reality, with enough exposure I've been learning the spelling anyway at its own pace, while in the meantime I was able to enjoy chatting with Thai people much earlier than I would otherwise had (looking up every word I type doesn't fit my definition of enjoyment btw)

Not so good/would have done different:

  • I wish I started shadowing much earlier than around 800hr mark. The way I do it these days is I record myself repeat a sentence after either a native speaker or AI as long as the pronunciation is good. I then send it to my tutor along with the transcription and she spots the awkward parts. We don't talk nearly enough about how long it takes to train the mouth to speak Thai properly. Without hearing recording of your own voice, and there without a native speaker guidance most people won't be able to tell what sounds off and why it sounds off. Honestly, since I have been speaking from day 1 I could have as well started shadowing from day 1. How I do shadowing is recording myself speak after listening to a recording and I don't know how some people manage to do that in real time, I couldn't even do that in my native language.
  • Relying on transcription/information on the tone of the each syllable when learning new vocab. I should have bitten the bullet and kept spelling + audio as the only info on the anki card I was studying. This would have made everything faster: reading, understanding tone rules and hearing tones. The vocab I was learning was from a premade deck so I didn't give it much thought at the time.
  • Consuming content that was too easy. I was aiming for the 80%-95% comprehension rate but since I was learning vocab separately I could have gone much lower and reaped larger benefits. I do recognise that hearing simple structures tens-hundreds of times is also important and is the only way they become natural. But I think there are more effective ways to achieve that that watching CI content that's spoken too slowly and I don't really find challenging enough to interest me. These structures will appear in more difficult content anyway, so don't be scared to push the comprehension down to levels like 50%, 40% or even 20% at times. You can still make much more progress, especially if you know the words used but struggle to make sense of them. That being said, easy stuff is totally fine to listen to if you just feel like chilling or you're kinda preoccupied with something else.
  • Not​ taking enough breaks. I like the physical exercise analogy, although a brain doesn't need a rest day after every workout like other muscles do, memory consolidation is a real phenomenon and taking a break not only healthy but has proved to facilitate my progress and make me feel unstuck. I usually only do Anki reviews and shadowing on rest days, around an hour total. If external circumstances don't force me to take a break I'll do something like a planned 2-day break every two weeks. This is highly personal and depends on how much you study, but also how you feel about studying, people prone to burnouts will probably need to take breaks more often. I personally take breaks because of cofnitive fatigue mostly, studying too much can impact my ability to relax and cause symptoms like racing thoughts or difficulty sleeping.

What's next? My original plan has been reaching B2 by the end of the year. I'm aiming for 500 more hours by that time and I'm confident my reading skill will get there - I'm excited to have two novels lined up after I finish the current book! Listening will be more of a challenge, unless I make some sort of breakthrough - although I'm making progress on understanding clear speech, natural/everyday speech or dialogues can be hard to understand, e. g. when watching Thai dub anime or a Thai drama my comprehension is super low. I'm planning to incorporate the transcription exercise to my routine - that is, writing/typing out what I hear and reviewing. I'll keep practicing shadowing every day for now, my biggest issue with speaking is pronunciation, not sentence building. I believe sentence building and spontaneity will automatically follow my input skills and through living in Thailand I have plenty of chance to practice those, so I'm probably not going to dedicate deliberate effort to it for now. That being said,​ I'll be happy with consistent B1 speaking by the end of the year. I'm not willing to sacrifice my reading time for the sake of speaking practice for the simple fact that I enjoy reading in Thai - and there's only so much speaking I can do in a day without my mouth getting tired anyway. Starting next year I'm hoping to come back to studying Japanese so I'd like my Thai to be at the level where I can work on both without confusing one with the other by then. Also next year my Thai gf is likely going to move in with me, and I'm hoping my Thai would be decent enough that we won't default to English 80% of the time like we do now (sadly her English is pretty good /hj).

As I mentioned, getting the hours in is much easier once I can consume input I enjoy, so even though there's a lot of work I need to do to be satisfied with my level, I feel like the hardest part of the grind is behind me. The progress moving forward will certainly slow down, but as the number of activities I can semi-comfortably do grows, it often doesn't feel like study anymore. My final goal in the hour tracking app has been set to 3000 hours but I honestly can't tell when I'll be satisfied with my progress enough to stop tracking. Might as well be 2500 or 4000. That being said getting into this thought I'll be further at the 1000hr mark, so I could as well be overshooting into the future. But it doesn't really matter, since I'm loving the process 😊

Thank​ you for staying with me till the end of the post! Feel free to ask about stuff I didn't mention, feel free to critique my routine and if you have any suggestions for me moving forward, feel free to drop them too! See you in December at 1500 ❤️


r/learnthai 5d ago

Speaking/การพูด Looking for native English or Japanese friends to practice speaking with!

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Hi! I’m a 29M living in Bangkok, looking to make friends with native English or Japanese speakers to practice conversational speaking. I’d be more than happy to help you with Thai in return!

I recently took the IELTS and got a 7.5 overall, but my speaking was a 6.0 and writing was 6.5. I really want to focus on improving my spoken English and building confidence in conversation. Also, I took the GRE back in the day and got a 159 (mostly thanks to the math part!). It's been a long time though, and I remember running out of time and not being able to complete the writing part!

5年間日本に住んでいましたが、タイに帰国してから日本語を使う機会が減ってしまいました。特に会話力を維持したいので、日本語で楽しくお話しできるお友達も探しています!

We can chat over voice calls, correct each other, or just talk about daily life, hobbies, and culture. We can split our calls half-and-half or switch languages each time.

I tried apps like Tandem and HelloTalk, but they felt a bit too much like dating apps. I got some language friends from other language exchange subs, so I’m hoping to find more here.

Feel free to leave a comment or DM telling me what your Thai learning goals are if you'd like to connect!


r/learnthai 6d ago

Resources/ข้อมูลแหล่งที่มา 484 curated Thai-learning resources and 4-months of fixes and improvements

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First of all, thanks to the mods for adding Thai Script Master to the sub's sidebar back in May. TSM remains a completely free Thai learning resource that I have spent countless hours tuning over the last five months. I am happy to continue to contribute to one of the many great resources to support the journey to learn to read and speak Thai. TSM is not the only resource available, but I will continue to work hard to make it one of the best.

I am proud to announce the release of TSM v2. There have been hundreds of fixes and improvements, way too many to list. The site is easier to navigate, has significantly more content, including almost 500 curated external Thai-learning resources, and a much-improved CEFR assessment. The original version was complimented by u/ling_app back when I first launched in April, and the new version is objectively better.

I now have a feedback link in the sidebar, so please let me know if you have any feedback you want to share privately. Or, better yet, give me approval using the checkbox on the form, to put your testimonial on the site.

In the first several months, TSM has attracted over 2,000 unique users, almost 150 signed-up users who continue to login, and 30-50 people who use the site every day to study. There is so much functionality that it can be overwhelming to figure out how to organize, but it makes me feel happy to see that some people are enjoying using it.

ALSO, I am working on arcade mode! I have found it helpful for studying the alphabet. There are 20 different arcade mini-games and I am finishing up leaderboards and matchmaking. It is pretty fun.

Anyhow!

The short list of upgrades and fixes (I am so sorry if something here was broken for the last four months!):

New

  • A new look across every page, with real light and dark themes. Light is now the default. Your bookmarks still work.
  • Simpler navigation: Home, Learn, Practice, Library, You. Sidebar on desktop, bottom bar on phones.
  • Media library: 484 hand-picked resources for learning Thai, filterable by level and type, with collections and best-of lists.
  • Homepage rebuilt around one recommended next step, with live panels for Practice, Reference, Tools, Progress and Media.
  • Learn is now a workspace: a chapter list with progress rings, one open chapter at a time, all 94 lessons, and it resumes where you left off.
  • Practice hub: a TODAY panel showing what is due, and a searchable map of all 42 modes by skill and level.
  • Every practice drill has its own purpose-built layout. Rating, choosing, typing, tracing, listening and reading no longer look like the same page.
  • Placement test: a fixed 36-question form so results are comparable, a shareable result link, and where you stand against other learners.
  • Progress now answers one question: how much real Thai can you read?
  • Achievements reorganized: 48 marks shown as ladders and gauges, with the unreachable ones labelled.
  • Settings regrouped into five sections, including an offline panel for install and storage.
  • Feedback link on every page, plus learner testimonials on the homepage.
  • "Take Assessment" appears in the menu until you have a level.
  • Explore: a play button on every item.
  • Reference: Thai comes before romanization on cards, and audio is one tap away on consonant pages.
  • Sign-in prompts appear at most once per session, and only after you finish something.
  • Music controls on mobile, a new About page, and a site-wide footer.

Fixed

  • Daily streaks never advanced past 1. They do now.
  • Signing in used tobookmarks andfavourites. Your data now merges with your account.
  • The Sign In button on mobile was broken.
  • The theme toggle did nothing. It works.
  • Every first visit reloaded the page a moment after it appeared.
  • 111 audio clips that played silence or a click now play properly. Tone marks and vowels say their names.
  • The word decoder and text reader gave wrong readings and tones. Both are correct now.
  • Highlighted letters on consonant pages lost their tone marks. Fixed.
  • Searching grammar and word-formation with Thai text returned everything. It filters now.
  • Media: the beginner filter returned nothing, and 116 resource pages showed a video player with nothing to play.
  • Tone colors were inconsistent between pages. One palette everywhere.
  • Flashcards greeted new users with a disabled button. Zero-data users saw made-up "weak areas."
  • Phones: 22 controls were too small to tap reliably. Pop-ups no longer hide behind the bottom bar. The offline notice no longer covers the header.
  • Tablets: the side rail fits the screen and homepage panels open by tap.
  • Screen readers now read Thai text in a Thai voice.
  • The "install app" prompt no longer shows on desktop.
  • Opting out of analytics now fully opts you out. Guests can erase their data without an account.

Thanks for all the support! It has been awesome to see so many people using TSM, and I will continue to work on it and fix all of the issues that are brought to my attention.

-pete


r/learnthai 5d ago

Discussion/แลกเปลี่ยนความเห็น Weird pronunciation of ขยะแขยง

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Does the pronounciation of ขยะแขยง (khà-yà-khǎ-yɛ̌ɛng) hides some rule or is it just an anomaly? One would think that the second part of the word แขยง, following the basic rules, would be pronounced as khǎe-yong.

khà-yɛ̌ɛng just doesnt make any sense to me. Any explanations?


r/learnthai 5d ago

Studying/การศึกษา study buddy for motivation

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sawadeeka 🙏🏼

Hello everyone! I've been trying to learn Thai for such a long time, but it's such a hard language that I always end up giving up - mainly because I'm trying to learn on my own, and my raging ADHD does not allow me to have the discipline it takes to learn it without any help.

Right now, I can't really afford to pay someone to teach me, so I was hoping I would find someone who would like to be friends and maybe learn together?

I just need some motivation, and I feel like a study buddy would be the perfect help!

I have one acquaintance who's also learning Thai. She mentioned that she's been able to improve her language skills due to someone she found on Discord; however, I have no clue how to find people over there (I haven't been using the app for long tbh, and I barely know how to use it), so I just thought I could write it here. Maybe someone would see this post and want to be study buddies!

khob khun na ka guys ❤️