Agree here. Every the shepherd should prob have a fence there. Our neighbor sued our other neighbor cuz his chihuahua would bite anyone that walked past his house and he never fenced it. Got fined by the city
In some places your dog can be off leash if on your property and they can be controlled. We had someone enter our yard to approach our son (for some reason). My son advised him the dog was off leash, he came anyway and was bitten. We gave his command and he sat back down on the porch where he was before the man entered our yard. Our son was too young to have a random man approach him for any reason. The county advised our dog was fine. He was in our yard, the man was warned and our dog stopped on command.
I've gotten to the point where if I don't understand the comment, I just assume it's a bot. Speaking of, I also haven't a fried fucking clue what they're on about.
Pretty sure the damn shepherd proved he doesn't need a leash or fence. Training your dogs goes further than any physical restraint. Even a decently trained dog would have crossed a known boundary in this situation. All a fence will do for this shepherd is obstruct his view.
It's about having your dogs in your control. Some states might have different regulations. If they are on your property, trained and obedient, leashes aren't required. But if you have uncontrollable dogs and they take off, leave the property and harm someone? Then you're in the wrong because the dog wasn't under your control.
Even trained dogs can go off. You never know if something will trigger them deep down. There is no reason to not build a fence. Both keeps your dog in and others out.
Anyone thinking they have a large dog "under control" 100% of the time is delusional. It only takes one time, one trigger event. We all think we know our dogs, but even the goodest boys might interpret something as something else. And most people don't train their dog beyond commands that respond to food. Actual dog training is done by a professional over a few weeks, and it ain't cheap, so most people don't do it.
I don't think anyone listens but not leashing your dog while they are outside is always the wrong choice because something unexpected could happen that spooks your dog and they could run off, for example. Keeping your dog on leash keeps them safe.
Your attitude is going to get a child mauled by your dog unprovoked some day, considering how it's gone with all the other people who've said the exact same thing. Keep your dog on a leash
Yup. It is legal where I am to have your dogs unleashed on your property, as long as they stay on your property and they are completely under your control.
Often I’ll sit on the porch with my shepherd and we’ll watch the world go by or storms rolls in. It’s really nice.
Obviously I wouldn’t let him be free if I didn’t train him properly and have the confidence he would listen.
I play fetch with my Aussie in our front yard all the time with her Frisbee. It's on our property and she won't take off, so it isn't an issue. People walk by and their dogs go berserk, but mine just ignores them and continues our game.
Yeah, our first dog had to be on a leash always. And you had to be vigilant whenever opening a door because he would take off. The other dogs would come into the garage with my dad and stick to him. Maybe they would go a foot into the front yard, but never really stray away from him. The second one wouldn’t even chase a squirrel, her favorite backyard activity lol. In the back (fenced) yard, they would run around.
No, it’s also about your unfamiliarity about OTHER dogs and people, and the mental peace of those around you.
Leash your dog in public. If you have a big dog who needs to run free, it’s your responsibility to have enough space (or access thereto) for them to do so.
The world isn’t a domesticated dog’s oyster. Stray dogs run free and their mileage varies.
Any human who loves their dog not only trains them to behave, but physically controls them in public.
I didnt know this until I moved from the west coast to the east coast (US) but out here fenced yards are EXTREMELY rare... and they are actually a lil stigmatized ie: the other neighbors will think youre weird, have something to hide, and generally making the neighborhood look ugly.
Not really arguing whether dogs should be fenced or not btw. Just pointing out a regional thing that shocked me as a Californian moving to PA
I live in PA with a dog and while we don’t have a fence because my yard is half pond and there’s no way to fence it without spending an obscene amount of money most people with dogs have fences. My dog is boarder trained but she is still on a lead 99% of the time, no one thinks fences are ugly. Really curious where you live.
No one is saying that. The issue is that you’ve got multiple dogs that are unleashed, which is not helpful to this situation. It’s irresponsible, period. I think we can all agree that a fenced in yard is safer for children than having an off leash dog is, right?
Theres a lot of different reasons a front yard doesnt have a fence, hes allowed to go out there. If he didnt have his off leash dog, he'd be getting stitches. But sure, lets make kids play in the backyard only in case lightning strikes there, or an unleash dog attacks out of nowhere
Oh well then everyone should have their dogs off leash for each individual’s protection. Why should one person be allowed to have their dog off leash while others don’t? Do you forget it’s not just about the safety of the kids? How many dogs get shot by cops while being untethered in their yards but barking and showing aggression? How many dogs have suddenly run into the street WHEN THEY’VE NEVER DONE THAT BEFORE and got hit by a car? How many owners swear their dog has excellent recall and then a tragedy happens and they’re so shocked? It only takes once. This kid and dog got lucky this time around but EVERYONE who has a dog off leash is contributing to an irresponsible situation, period.
There are some races considered dangerous where the dog and their owners have to pass a certain test conducted by a professional after some time of ownership. I'd say this should apply to all dogs. Plus hard fines for not putting a dog on a leash in certain areas, and even harder ones for incidents like that one
I'm pretty sure a fine of a couple thousand dollars could prevent a lot of incidents. People would be more careful, and people that aren't committed to training their dog properly would get one less often as they wouldn't be allowed to keep it for long, otherwise. Sure, it wouldn't prevent every incident, but probably a lot
I get what you're saying, I do. But its ideals. Fines only control those with little to no money. Rules only control those who respect them. There will be people who don't mind paying thousands of dollars to continue doing what they've always done, if they get caught. There need to be progressive levels.
1st lower fines for no incident. Just caught not following rules. Increasing for each no harm rule breaking. Capped at 3 and then straight to 3rd (high fines and animal removal)
2nd high fines for 1st incident
3rd high fines + removal of attack animals - 2nd incident
4th jail time - 3rd incident.
That would cause most people, rich and poor, to think twice before allowing a 2nd incident or multiple free roaming.
I knew it, you probably can’t even drive around with an M4 in your trunk either! Assuming they let you even own a car, do rickshaws have trunks? It’s hard to imagine being so oppressed. My American brain cannot even fathom such restrictions.
Thought you had something there huh? We both know thats only half of what happend because another dog, saved the kid. But you are really trying to ignore that part.
The dog did an awesome job, I'm not gonna deny that. I just enjoy living in a country where I can feel safe even if I don't have a bodyguard with me at all times that would sacrifice themselves for me if needed
Idk man I grew up with a German shepherd and our yard wasn't fenced in and she never left the yard. Literally ever. Unless she was on a leash going on a walk with one of us. And to be clear she was never outside alone, if she was in the yard there was always someone with her.
But do I trust random strangers to train their dog like that? Probably not, and I can see why that same distrust would be put on me. But my point is it IS possible.
That's fair. I don't own a dog anymore, and back when I did have a dog I was literally a child, so I don't really have a horse in this race anyway. But I guess it's like seatbelts "I've never been in a car accident!" OK but wearing a seatbelt anyway is just being responsible. Makes sense.
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u/Sorry-Joke-4325 17h ago
Nah, all of these dogs are running around in unfenced areas without leashes. Bad owners.