r/audioengineering • u/superproproducer • 2d ago
Why owning the best gear has made me a better engineer
I’ve been in the industry for 20+ years. I started at the bottom with very little, not so great gear, and have worked my way up to owning the best gear money can buy. My mic collection is stellar; a vintage 251 (250 actually for those that know), c12, c24, u47, u67s, c800, c37a, etc… Same story with outboard; vintage Neves, V76s, 1176, LA2As, Pultecs, etc…
Before owning the real things, I always bought clones when I had the money. I’d be stoked on a clone for a while till I started hearing one thing I didn’t like about it. That one thing would eventually snowball into “all I hear is the flaw,” and I’d be back in the market for a different clone, losing money along the way.
After some success, I decided I wouldn’t buy gear unless I could buy the real deal. I started picking up all the classics that all the clones are modeled after, and boy does that shit rule! My c12 is the best mic I’ve ever heard (even over the 250). My 1176 Rev D is the only vocal compressor I’d ever need (besides my LA2A). My Pultecs made sounds more 3D than I ever thought possible. I love it all.
But you know what I found? I could still fuck up a recording with the best gear money can buy. That’s when it truly hit me; great engineering trumps great gear. I’m happy I have the gear, don’t get me wrong, not just because it’s great- but because it’s made me realize that when I’m not getting the sound I want; it’s on me and my abilities not the gear. I’ve got no excuses anymore. I can’t blame my Peluso 2247LE because it’s not a real u47, I’m using a real 50’s era u47 now!!! That fact has made me up my game. With the “less than exemplary” gear excuse out of the way, it forced me to focus on technique and fixing the sound at the source. My engineering chops have gone up exponentially since getting all the best gear, because I stopped focusing on the gear part. Now, because I’m more confident in my engineering, I feel like I could’ve gotten sounds I liked with the lesser-than gear I had.
I’m sharing all this to say; I didn’t have to buy all the best stuff, I was too focused on THAT being the thing holding me back- when I realize now it wasn’t (necessarily). I wouldn’t trade any of what I have for the world, but I can also acknowledge it was a cop out excuse for poor engineering. Learn how to get the sounds you want with what you have. Remember, Tom Schultz made the Boston album on an 8 track recorder in a dirt floor basement in a time when home recording wasn’t a thing.. It went on to sell over 10 million records (and still sounds incredible).
TD;LR Buying the most sought after/talked about gear made me realize I had no excuse for getting less than ideal sounds. I’ve learned more about technique since getting the classic stuff and that is what has truly upped my game
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u/Nolongeranalpha 1d ago
No one actually read the post. He clearly is saying that buying the best gear made him realize the mistakes HE was making because the gear changed nothing. His mistakes were still there. It was the act of buying the "best" gear that made him work on his own shortcomings because he couldnt blame the gear anymore.
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u/superproproducer 1d ago
Thank you, this community rules lol
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u/Nolongeranalpha 1d ago
They can be quick to judge, but as a whole it is a fairly good sub that can admit mistakes. I got what you were going for. You're welcome.
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u/Chongulator 11h ago
Wait, some people on the internet actually read stuff? Weird. Maybe I should try that sometime. :P
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u/tr14l 1d ago
Gear is an enabler of good engineering. But it doesn't make it any easier or better. It just removes limitations. So it only helps if you already know what you're doing and the limitation is the problem. Otherwise, the problem is further upstream
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u/superproproducer 1d ago
I’d argue it can make things easier, but isn’t a necessity to getting the results you want (as long as you’ve got the time)
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u/TyreseGibson 1d ago
I could do a post like this but it would be that by using a variety of different types of gear I realized nothing matters when the band isn't practiced and has shit arrangements
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u/GreatScottCreates Professional 1d ago
I could do a post like this but I’d just say “I used the gear, didn’t buy it, bc I found out I didn’t need to and the ROI is often not good as a business owner”
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u/BrotherBringTheSun Professional 1d ago
It's cool that you realized how important your skills/technique was only by having the best gear.
I've always had the opposite approach, even in my 8 years as a professional producer in Nashville, I would try to see how cheap/few pieces of gear I could get away with using, to instead rely on my ears and older generation of plugins and a limited selection of mics. Turns out I could get pretty far with that approach and I still believe that your personal taste is the major difference between whether your mixes sound professional or amateur. The expensive gear just makes it faster or more fun.
For example, I've never owned amazing monitors. But if I listen to my mixes in my studio, car, phone speaker and ear buds, I pretty much know how they are going to translate to listeners. It takes more time to have to do mix checks but I don't need the expensive sets of monitors in my studio. In retrospect, having high quality monitors would have been nice too lol.
Same thing with plug-ins. I've always strongly believed that HOW you use your EQ/comp, what frequencies, what attenuations etc. is 90% of the sound and 10% is the particular color or style. You can imagine a professional mixing engineer getting a better mix from stock EQ than an amateur with all the UAD, Slate, Waves packages.
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u/pandaren11 1d ago
I always think it's telling when someone here claims some specific piece of very expensive gear makes a world of difference and is an absolute game changer, to the point it's "essential" and vastly superior to any alternatives, as if it's a necessity to get some sort of magical result.
To me that just conveys lack of ability and skills. I'm always able to get the results I want from any workable setup that has no technical issues (which nowadays isn't difficult at all to achieve, gear quality has come a long way). If the gear is different/"inferior" my ears guide me to get the results I need from it. If something is indeed missing I can always tell if it's a matter of saturation, EQ, compression and apply other tools accordingly. Sure it's nice to have shiny and expensive toys but if someone can't make a record sound good using simple but reliable stuff that's on them imo.
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u/better_med_than_dead 1d ago
LOL, let's see your discography.
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u/Kelainefes 1d ago
Eh, one could argue that engineers that have done famous records are obviously very skilled and experienced, and that they have been paid enough that they can justify the expensive gear because even if it was very good and not magical, they like it and it brings in work.
So it would be like saying that all real estate agents that have sold 7 digit houses drive a Bentley.
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u/weedywet Professional 1d ago
It’s totally reasonable to say “if you’re going to pontificate about what matters let’s hear your records to see if you know what you’re talking about”
It’s generally trust fund kids who have mic collections like that.
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u/pandaren11 1d ago
I've met and worked with many of my country's top engineers. People who worked on grammy winning records and are hired by very demanding artists. None of them claim their results depend on unobtainable vintage gear, even though that's what they have on their studios.
There are a few who admit to using non-optimal plugins (like waves stuff) because they're acquainted with the workflow and their ears guide them to good results even if it isn't the best emulation. I've seen one of them work in my university's studio with stuff that was completely different from what he normally uses and the final result still came out superb. To me that's what makes a good professional.
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u/weedywet Professional 1d ago
I’m a Grammy winning producer/mixer
There’s nothing “non optimal” about Waves
That’s more hobbyist nonsense.
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u/pandaren11 1d ago
The subscription model, lack of quality of life features and the clunky skeuomorphic interfaces are what I personally consider suboptimal. Sound-wise I'm not used to them enough to get the results I want fast in my workflow, so I don't use them. Engineers far more talented and capable than me use them everyday. I'd say he meant that if he was starting out today, he would probably use some other alternatives.
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u/weedywet Professional 1d ago
I’d use something else is a personal choice
Implying they’re ‘bad’ in some way and that I have to “admit” (!) to using them is ridiculous.
I don’t know any pros (and I know most) who don’t use Waves regularly.
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u/pandaren11 1d ago
My guy, if it wasn't clear from my comment english isn't my first language (it isn't even my second language). I didn't mean to imply anything with the verb "admit", don't read too much into it.
You know "most" pros? Surely you must realise how ridiculous that sounds? The world is a much bigger place than the US (which I'm assuming is where you're from, because that is a very american thing to say, sorry if that isn't the case lol).
You're either claiming to know every single relevant professional audio engineer in the entire world, or implying that there aren't pros elsewhere, what is it? I know many pros here in my country who don't use waves at all, and many who do.
Most who do use them mostly because they've been using them for decades, not because they're great or better than anything else. Everything is a personal choice in audio engineering, I genuinely don't know what you're even disagreeing with. Their only offering I've heard people refer to as irreplaceable is RBass.
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u/weedywet Professional 1d ago
Once again. English.
There’s a difference between “most” and “every single” one
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u/pandaren11 1d ago edited 1d ago
Alright, so can you name me all of these top Latin American engineers you personally know, since you are acquainted with "most" pros in existence? I'd love to know.
ETA: Since we're clearly facing an insurmountable language barrier, I'll be thorough. If you claim to know "most" pros and that doesn't include a single professional from an entire continent known for its music and excepcional musicians, then in your worldview you either believe the US is the entire world (where I'm still assuming you're from, because again, this is a very american way of viewing the world), or you believe there are no good professionals in countries like Brazil or Argentina, which is honestly ridiculous. I'm very interested in what a grammy winning professional has to say about that.
Then again, maybe I need to work on my English before getting back to you. I'll study hard to be worthy of your wisdom.
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u/pandaren11 1d ago
My guy. I've nothing to prove to you and I have no interest in changing your mind.
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u/Crazy_Movie6168 1d ago
Link one comment that says anything gear wise is game changing.
I'm not disagreeing but you have to pretend if you think those comments aren't extreme minorities nowadays.
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u/pandaren11 1d ago
Are you sure about that? I think it's delusional to believe most people here don't think of gear like that. The entire Jim Lill mic pre thing some time ago was a great example of this. There were some here claiming that they can only get "their" drum/guitar sound with their vintage neves, which I personally interpret as telling on yourself as a shitty engineer.
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u/GreatScottCreates Professional 1d ago
Did they say they can only get a good sound with their vintage neves?
Frankly, I only get my sound (something I would never choose to say, really) by pushing my summing mixer through the chain I push it through. That’s what my mixes sound like bc that’s what I do to the mixes.
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u/pandaren11 1d ago
I understand having your personal setup and workflow. I can't understand not being able to achieve the results you want just because the gear changed, unless something is broken or of actual subpar quality.
Most of the time I'm not doing work that allows the mix to have too much of a personality, the musicians I work with are usually looking for a clean and balanced mix that lets their music and execution be heard with clarity. I can get there with any setup of reasonable quality.
I'm also a pianist. I can play my repertoire on any good piano by a reputable brand as long as it is properly set up. If any of my students claim they can't sound good because it's an upright and not a concert grand I'll kindly tell them that it's not the piano's fault. That's where I'm coming from.
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u/tonetonitony 1d ago
I'd say there is certainly gear that has a sound you can't get otherwise. There's a difference between an actual Coles 4038 and a knock-off. EQ isn't going to save you a few thousand bucks in that sense, but it can probably get you in the realm of where you want to be.
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u/pandaren11 1d ago
Indeed, but how often these minute differences are what makes or breaks a mix? The most challenging scenarios, to me, are the simple ones where there isn't anywhere to hide. Like recording solo classical guitar. You need a good musician with a good guitar in a good room, and you'll need a good mic going through a good pre.
In these cases I agree you'll need gear of higher quality, but I'd still find it a bit ridiculous if anyone here claims they can't get a good recording in this scenario if they don't use their $10k vintage mic through some unobtainable vintage pre. A DPA or a KM184 will do, you know what I mean?
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u/tonetonitony 1d ago
Sure. That I agree with. But having "your" sound is something that can be dependent on certain gear.
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u/Lower-Kangaroo6032 1d ago
I’ve come to think of it in an overly simplistic way - that audio engineers generally find success by following either their technical or artistic sensibilities, and that a lot of disagreement and misunderstanding results from this.
This is online community disagreement/misunderstanding - it matters only as much as online comment section content matters. Where I’be seen it be a more legit issue is when an overly artistic performer would be working with an overly technical engineer, or vice versa.
Super simple and dumb way to think about it.
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u/weedywet Professional 1d ago
I’d never say I can only get “my sound” or, more important, a good sound with specific gear.
But it’s equally stupid to make the Lill like claims that nothing matters at all.
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u/Crazy_Movie6168 1d ago
Link one comment. I'll count how much of a minority it is in the post. "game changing" is what you said they say or similar. They're an minority with very little influence.
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u/pandaren11 1d ago
Dude, you're strangely combative for such a mild topic. Did I strike a nerve? Are you seeing yourself in my comment? Because I'm not accusing you of anything.
It is my perception that there are many, many people here in this sub that place too much emphasis on gear as what makes or breaks a good mix. From my experience here, in most discussions this seems to be the opinion of the majority. You're allowed to disagree, I have nothing to prove to you nor am I interested in linking comments to call people out, what would any of us gain by doing that? Jesus.
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u/Crazy_Movie6168 1d ago
If you strike a nerve it's because I find r/audioengineering wildly uninteresting lately. The surest way of getting popular attention is this kind of comment you just made. I understand those who saw old gearsluts or whatever but it's the coldest kind of take since about 8 years ago.
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u/pandaren11 1d ago
So you spend your energy angrily arguing against what you think is the coldest take possible? My guy, I have nothing to do with whatever you're going through and I have no interest in catering to your sensitivities. I'm not looking for attention nor controversy.
This is a public forum and I posted my own opinion. Not trying to be snarky but if this is wildly uninteresting to you maybe you could just... not engage? Why get worked up?
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u/better_med_than_dead 1d ago
Written by someone that never even had access to a vintage Neve console 🤣
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u/pandaren11 1d ago
Glad to know you're a fan and are more familiar with my work than myself! I'll reach out to you next time I need to find out if I've ever worked with some specific piece of vintage gear. I often forget, you'll be a lifesaver. Cheers.
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u/whatever20199 1d ago
I’ve built a few studios. Strict dimensions, broadband absorption, specific diffusion. The works. Great to work in. But eventually retired them and sold them. By working in those spaces I became a better engineer. Better at listening. And now I work in a space without any treatment with cheapo (but still good) monitors. Gaining experience in acoustically tight spaces developed my skill set. Massively. Like I’d moved past a plateau. The same with using classic gear. After using certain synths/instruments I realised you don’t actually need any of them. Always great and fun to use classic instruments. They always inspire. But they’re absolutely not essential. The vast majority of your listeners will never be able to tell. And no one actually cares! It’s all about the song.
Rambling a bit. I’m just agreeing with you. It’s liberating to realise.
Heads up to anyone planning on rinsing 5k on that special something…you probably don’t need it
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u/Reluctant_Lampy_05 1d ago
Engineering is indeed different from just owning.
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u/superproproducer 1d ago
What?
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u/m0nkey-knife-fight 1d ago
They’re saying, owning the gear won’t make you an engineer. “Owning a sports bike won’t teach you to ride a motorcycle”. You said you bought gear and realized the gear only mattered when you did. All they did was say that in one sentence lol
But I feel ya man, I had a A LOT of fantastic gear for years. I had gear most wouldn’t even touch in their career. These days, entirely in the box. I reamp, but I even use amp sims a lot (they’ve come a long way). In the beginning of my career, I’d half mix on consoles, print through tape, even had Burl AD/DA. These days, it’s an Apollo and only outboard is for reamping. I make better records these days than I ever did. There’s a few outboard pieces that I want again because they were that good, or I want to track through them, but that’s like a couple distressors and a couple pres. I do think mics hold their weight, but tech has come a long way
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u/The_Fell_Opian 1d ago
Something interesting I found on the topic of gear...
I love reading tape op interviews. And while there are some people like Jonathan Wilson who know vintage gear inside and out, there are a lot of other stories of people literally using whatever shit they can get their hands on, doing things "incorrectly" and ending up with classic sounding albums that others emulate.
In the Aeroplane Over the Sea had a weird mix of expensive microphones, cheap mics, and overdriven shitty compressors. Sufjan mixed Illinoise without using monitors, Mac Demarco used one mic to do the drums on Salad Days and there are literally people in forums asking how to get his sound. Kevin Parker overdrove a Shure Level-Loc limiter to get his signature drum sound. List goes on.
So sometimes using good gear correctly just ends up with familiar, safe-sounding records.
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u/Mental_Spinach_2409 Professional 1d ago edited 1d ago
So I run a studio. We have a very utilitarian console with neutral, low noise pre’s, a humble selection of outboard, and a 0 vintage mic locker, plenty of the usual suspects but nothing crazy sexy. I’m in business because I have an incredible, large, live room and a very accurate control room.
I have had the privilege of assisting and/or watching hundreds of engineers from all walks of life. Some who have been freelancing a while bring their own vintage mics and big racks of outboard that they ‘absolutely’ have to have to make a record. Fine.
The biggest privilege i’ve had is seeing first hand time and time again that there is no correlation whatsoever between that gear and the quality of records made here. Like seriously, nothing. If there is a correlation it’s when engineers spend all their time masturbating with an api eq instead of moving a mic that sounds like shit.
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u/manysounds Professional 1d ago
If you could make a mix sound good on a Mackie 8-buss you can make a mix sound very good on a Harrison.
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u/BenLouisMusic 1d ago
While I have very little outboard gear, and what I do have is definitely nothing crazy, I resonate with the general philosophy of the post. Having the nicest gear obviously does not grant anyone engineering experience or skill, and that is obviously what makes a mix, not the gear. HOWEVER, I have always had the philosophy of whatever I do buy, I want it to be the best value tool it can be so that the only margin of error is MY skill and not a technological limitation out of my control. It doesnt have to be the most expensive, just good value. Which maybe you have gone a tad overboard with that notion (im just teasing, and Im 100% jealous lol) but it still stands that now the sky is the limit for you. You know the only thing standing between you and your ideal mix is your skill. Its daunting bc you have no excuses when things arent coming out the way you want, but when it clicks, it will be that much more worth it!!
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u/Healthy_Kangaroo1987 1d ago
I went through this process until I achieved a collection of gear that satisfied my gear lust, only to find that having access to such great gear actually made me lazier and less creative as an engineer. I also found the constant hunt for the next step up in quality to become an obsession and quite a depressing and competitive pursuit. I was finding I thought I needed a particular mic or compressor because I wanted to keep up with my peers so called ‘progression’, more than I actually wanted that particular sound.
I ended up selling almost everything bar a small collection of mics and my instruments, and I’ve never been happier in my job. There’s always a bigger and better studio, there’s always someone with more money than you. And you can always hire those studios for a day or a week and achieve sonic bliss again if you need it.
Gear collection isn’t for everyone and the more people embrace what works for them, the better our music will become. For some it’s freeing to have all of the options. For me it was a relief to let go of the search for equipment so I could focus on the things that were more important to me.
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u/superproproducer 1d ago
Cool?
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u/superproproducer 1d ago
I guess I’m honored that someone is such a loser they took the time to do this lol
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u/Utterlybored 1d ago
I got top notch gear because 1) I could afford it 2) I want ALL the shortcoming of my end product to be 100% on me.
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u/PPLavagna 1d ago
Reddit is going to tear you to shreds because you own nice things. They’re not even going to read the rest.
Gear hate is en vogue these days
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u/TwoHandsTenThumbs 1d ago
But this post is FOMO meets “more dollars than sense” and I think that why the more serious folks here eyeroll.
It’s not envy.
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u/MantisToboganMD 1d ago
The most valuable thing this post has done for the community is help those of us who actually read it realize exactly how few people read anything before responding.
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u/PPLavagna 1d ago
You’re not wrong. There’s been an entire 360 degree circle jerk in this sub tonight based on this one post. Some great shitposting happening
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u/better_med_than_dead 1d ago
TL;DR "superproproducer" is not a real producer, nor are they a pro, or even super.
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u/KS2Problema 1d ago
Learn how to get the sounds you want with what you have.
You've found the silver lining in that dark and nasty old cloud of being stuck with great gear.
=D
I had a parallel breakthrough in the aftermath of me deciding I had to rein in my spending around the turn of the century. I spent less time reading gear lust stuff, more time really working with what i had - and more time experimenting and exploring the way I had 'always'; done things to see how I could improve my approach and technique.
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u/gmingucci 1d ago
The TLDR version of this has been around longer than I have:
A poor workman blames his tools.
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u/CriticalSovereignty 1d ago
I didn’t read this carefully but what I decided it said was that the best gear is needed to make the best records.
/s (obviously)
But seriously, I think we all have to learn this lesson in our own way. I definitely went through a phase (and likely will again) where I thought one more plugin was the answer, only to eventually accept that the stock compressor plugin in Logic is awesome and I already had it.
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u/risingaloha 1d ago
I need to buy "gear". I've done music so long. And it seems now, is my better late than never, one opportunity. The problem I am having is feedback for a second or pops and cracks that maybe I would just remove. It is so hard doing everything to be an artist. And it is sad how marketing really is what makes an artist popular.
What do you recommend as far as mics?. Editing equipment and software. My biggest issue is rerecording anything-neighbors. I have a big voice - not always controllable so I cannot practice or even rerecord where I am out. I seriously, doubt neighbors are tolerating it 16-20 hours a day.
I use a prerecorded voice for everything sooo hard to have it work for everything. It wont reach high notes I can hit because of opera training. I think I am mezzo soprano-it assumes my voice cannot hit it. It is so weird and frustrating. I argue with the air: note is easy, man, in my head voice. Everyday is a walk in gutteral-give-up-slumped-over-slink-away-alley. Always one little thing makes my release suck. Right now, it's adding cowbell to one of my songs. Probably, fun for you guys.
This is bs. I gotta write all the parts-lyrics then sing it. Promote it on social media. Track analytics on vidq and grok is my ai assistant- can't do sht, they dont give cloud desktop enough permissions. I need a sl@%×. I gotta make shorts, videos, posts and schedule them.Workout, Get extensions and plastic surgery. Teeth?
Vidq wants to change all my song names to souper gay ones. I gotta Fund it. Find real band members. Backup female singers. Just had to change my real name...ugh. And Engineer it.
Now, I am like oh, my Gosh; Recording engineers, they have to know all this, it is super hard. I am like how do they do all this...I hate even making a daw or separating instruments let alone putting it back together. I need ten years to learn it expert. Ugh. Help @%$#
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u/catsandpizzafuckyou 1d ago
post something so we can tell you how bad it sounds
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u/shrugs27 1d ago
What do you mean when you say the Pultec makes the sound 3D?
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u/zerques Mixing 20h ago
i’ve heard the with the pultecs if you use the boost & attenuate knob at the same frequency for that curve it gives, it makes it sound more 3D. kinda one of those things you just have to experience to know what it means imo.
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u/shrugs27 17h ago
How would an EQ curve make something more 3D? I don’t really understand. To me only a reverb or delay could do that, or maybe some other time based effect
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u/superproproducer 1d ago
Hard to explain, just does
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u/shrugs27 1d ago
Like even if you don’t adjust any knobs and just put the signal through?
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u/superproproducer 1d ago
Not so much.. turn the boost up all the at 20 or 30hz and the same for 12 or 16khz and its magic on most things
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u/Odd-Entrance-7094 Mixing 1d ago
I remember taking a ski lesson once and a kid was complaining about his gear and the instructor said let's switch, and it was instantly clear to all of us that the instructor was going to be a better skier with any equipment in the world than this kid with the best of the best
However the instructor had pretty nice skis (Rossignols I think)
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u/cptncom 1d ago
That's interesting to hear! I think that there are a lot of people who have all the best gear, and let it do the heavy lifting, and produce pretty average results but boast that they recorded it with $20k worth of gear. That and then stuff like Billie Eilish and Finneas recording the first Billie album on pretty average gear and stock logic plugins. Those stories kinda kept me away from the hype of buying into high priced gear.
But recently, after feeling like I was getting pretty mid results recording my own guitar and vocal tracks, I really started focusing on selling off any gear that I wasn't really vibing with. Mics, guitars, speakers, whatever, everything went on marketplace if I didn't love it lol. I have so much less stuff now, but I LOVE the results I'm getting on myself and my own music as well as others I record for.
Although I'm still early in my journey, and can't afford the best gear yet, I'm at least not spending as much on tons of stuff because I'm slimming down my already small collection into just what works best for me
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u/squ1bs Mixing 1d ago
I can kick your sonic ass with cheap mics, a Behringer UMC1820, and good musicians with good gear that they understand. Fight me.
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u/Nolongeranalpha 1d ago
Re read the post. Hes saying the gear exposed his limitations as an engineer because he couldnt blame bad mixes on "bad" gear.
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u/squ1bs Mixing 1d ago
I'm poking fun at the weekend warriors like myself. I like to believe that I can get a great result with budget gear, and I'm violently pro-digital, but I'm never gonna make an Aja.
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u/Nolongeranalpha 1d ago
Gotcha. Dont sell yourself short. You learn your gear well enough, when you do get that next level piece it does become niloticeable.
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u/GreatScottCreates Professional 1d ago
And uses a fantastic mic (that frankly, a lot ppl on the sub can’t afford) as an example of bad gear
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u/superproproducer 1d ago
Nah you’re just doing the Reddit “professional” thing and twisting words to make it seem like you know more. What I actually said is that I thought I needed something better than the Peluso, and after going down that rabbit hole realized I was fine with the Peluso. Never once did I say it was “bad.” Quit doing that
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u/GreatScottCreates Professional 1d ago
Yeah I get it, I didn’t dispute that, I agreed with the comment I responded to. Hope you kept the peluso though, that’s a great mic!
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u/Nolongeranalpha 1d ago
IKR. Meanwhile I tracked a whole damn album on a Behringer with 57's and got a pretty damn good mix I was happy with. Of course Im old enough to remember the Mackie 1604 VLZ
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u/reginaccount 1d ago
I was like this when I decided to learn drums (after playing guitar/bass/keys for decades). I bought a nice kit, top of the line heads, cymbals, kick pedal, throne etc. That way I had no excuses to suck. Couldn't blame anything but myself lol.
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u/GreatScottCreates Professional 1d ago
Most drummers’ kits sound bad bc they don’t know how to tune the heads, not bc the heads are cheap
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u/GreatScottCreates Professional 1d ago
“I got all the gear so I don’t worry about gear anymore!”
My guy there’s no excuse with a 2247 either
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