r/assyrian • u/Free_Dragonfruit_728 • Aug 04 '26

Kurds threatening genocide and displacement against Assyrian Christians,Yazidis and others

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u/ramathunder Aug 04 '26

What else is new? How do you think they got all those Assyrian lands? Their fanatics are still the Genociders they've always been.

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u/Free_Dragonfruit_728 Aug 04 '26

That’s exactly it. That’s the only reason they hold that land, while denying their free will and barbarism that got it for them. They glorify the violence and the ethnic cleansing while presenting themselves as an oppressed people who somehow had no choice and no agency in any of it, past or present. They claim to be secular, tolerant, progressive, all while helping erase the diversity of the Middle East and rewriting the history of how it disappeared. And the hypocrisy runs straight through it. What was done to Assyrians is a point of pride and glory for them. The same thing done to them by Turks or Arabs or Persians is genocide, all while denying their own past and present genocidal intentions toward us and others. They can deny and lie about it as long as they like. Their own track record outlives them.

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u/ramathunder Aug 04 '26

100% but they better think harder about continuing this strategy because there will come a day when their enemies or overlords may decide to wipe them out and they will expect sympathy which will not come from those they oppressed or those who know their true history. One can argue that the Palestinians deserve sympathy for what Israel has done to them, which is why they have such global support. Do the Kurds deserve the same type of sympathy and support? Many around the world who know the true history would say no. Unfortunately, the Kurds don't seem to understand this because they've been spoon fed so much propaganda or they know they got here through Genocide, enslavement, and force and they want to continue their ways because it's been successful so far.

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u/GiraffeJaf Aug 06 '26

I always thought most Kurds were secular/progressive compared to other Muslim groups..even more than Persians. But I heard recently that more are becoming super fanatical? Or has this always been the case? It’s crazy to me because the videos I see of Kurdish women they’re never wearing a hijab and I always admired that about them

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u/Free_Dragonfruit_728 Aug 06 '26

That image is mostly a Kurdish and Western media construct. The footage that circulates comes from their militias and from urban Erbil and Sulaymaniyah. Even Sulaymaniyah is religious. I would not recommend a woman go out alone at night in the Kurdistan Region, and in that respect it isn’t much different from the rest of Iraq.

In my experience, Persians, Turks, and Levantine Arabs are considerably more secular in practice. They just don’t have PR working for them.

Kurds in Iraq follow a more conservative strand of Sunni Islam than most Iraqi Arabs, which is part of why FGM tracks the way it does. It’s concentrated in Erbil and Sulaymaniyah and almost nonexistent in central and southern Iraq, per Iraq’s own government surveys.

Even Assyrian churches and cemeteries in the north have been vandalized and attacked, and our graves desecrated. That isn’t the behavior of a tolerant society either.

It isn’t new and it isn’t a recent turn toward fanaticism. It’s what was always there. Uncovered hair was never a good measure of religiosity anyway. I know covered Muslim women who are far more tolerant than plenty of unveiled ones.

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u/Rep_Media5551 Aug 04 '26

Idk who’s feeding y’all this agenda and why y’all keep bragging that Kurds took your land, when in fact it was the ancestors of the assyrians who migrated into northern Mesopotamia and began conquering Kurdish lands. The Kurds never migrated south into the land of the assyrians. Assyrians are literally the product of Semitic-speaking nomadic people who mixed with the ancestors of the Kurds. But I still don’t agree with the Kurds in the video disrespecting y’all, including our beloved Ezidi community.

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u/ramathunder Aug 04 '26

Except that Assyrians lived in southeast Anatolia for millenia. Some of the churches were built in the 4th century. The Assyrian Empire established forts and towns throughout southeast Anatolia.

Assyria established its network of permanent provincial capitals, forts, and garrison towns in today's southeastern Turkey during the early 9th century BCE, primarily under the rule of Neo-Assyrian King Ashurnasirpal II (883–859 BCE).While Assyria had trading colonies in Anatolia during the Old Assyrian period (c. 2000–1800 BCE), it was during the Iron Age expansion that the region was integrated into the imperial administrative network.

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u/Rep_Media5551 Aug 04 '26 edited Aug 04 '26

Your argument doesn’t make sense. It’s like saying the land of Canaan belongs exclusively to Palestinians because the State of Palestine was declared in 1988, while ignoring the thousands of years of history before that.

If you really want to debate who is native to a region, then we have to go back as far as the historical and archaeological record allows, not just a few centuries.

You mentioned useless stuff like Kings, dates and churches, but those are relatively recent in the broader scope of history. Let’s go back thousands of years BCE instead. Compare where the ancestors of the Kurds lived with the Semitic-speaking peoples who later became the ancestors of the assyrians.

Ancient Mesopotamia can broadly be divided into three regions. The north, associated with the Hurrians, the central region, where Semitic-speaking peoples, including the assyrians, emerged, and the south, home to the Sumerians and later Babylonians.

It’s embarrassing for you to go and cry about a land that once was conquered by the ancient assyrian empire, which was taken away from native people Hurrians (ancestors of Kurds). But thankfully this conquest didn’t last long, and the land got returned to its original inhabitants. Now stop playing the victim card, when your ancestors were the ones to expand their borders on other people’s land.

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u/ramathunder Aug 04 '26 edited Aug 04 '26

The Kurds are an Iranian speaking people and originated in the Zagros mountains. There is no mention of the name Kurd until recently. You claim Kurds lived in northern Mesopotamia since the earliest humans settled there. It's embarrassing for you to make such historically unsubstantiated claims. I gave you evidence of Assyrians conquering and permanently making Anatolian areas a part of their Assyrian Empire. You gave us assumptions and Kurdish nationalist propaganda.

Where is your evidence that Hurrians are the Kurds' ancestors? The Hurrian language is a language isolate and disappeared around 1000 BC. The Kurdish language is Iranian and their origins are Iranian, in Zagros mountains. Today's Assyrians still speak an Aramaic dialect, which the ancient Assyrians adopted around 900 BC. The people who belong in Anatolia are Greeks, Armenians, and finally Assyrians. The Turks only belong their because they forced the above people to convert to Islam and to the Turkish language, not because they are from the original Turkic tribes of central Asia. The Kurds did the same to the extent of their power and ability. The right thing for both would be to let the lands in their control be multi-lingual, multi-ethnic, and multi-religious. No one language or religion should be official just because it's the majority today. The people have a right to learn about their roots and their mother tongue and original religion.

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u/alii94 Aug 04 '26

Kurd just means nomad actually.

The etymology of the word Kurd traces back to Middle Persian (kwrt), where it functioned as a social or occupational descriptor meaning "nomad" or "tent-dwelling shepherd" rather than a specific ethnic designation.

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u/ramathunder Aug 04 '26

While that's true historically, the Kurds themselves have used it as an ethnic or national designation and have forced many non-Kurds to join that nation, over the past few centuries. Then it's reasonable for anyone to trace their geographical roots based on the name Kurd. But they also, and usually without evidence, claim that Kurds have always lived in Mesopotamia and Anatolia. They also claim ancestry with all sorts of ancient peoples. In summary, the Kurds have said whatever comes to their minds to show that the lands they occupy have always been theirs. Unfortunately, their propaganda has come to be accepted as common knowledge.

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u/medewarrior Aug 04 '26

Kurds are from the Zagros.

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u/ramathunder Aug 04 '26

Yes then that's where a Kurdish state should be established and nowhere else.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zagros_Mountains#/media/File:Ecoregion_PA0446.svg

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u/Acceptable-Cake5527 Aug 04 '26

Chat gpt ah reply

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u/Legend_H Aug 04 '26

Edizis are kurds, if this person disrespected the ezidi then he needs to go and learn more, because he literally disrespected his own people.

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u/oy1d Aug 04 '26

Assyrians deserve better man I’m genuinely so sorry all the oppression your people have been through.

Assyria should be a proud nation today with the most ancient history on earth and this region’s worst criminals and dictators turned you into a rare minority may they rot in hell for that and may ur people find peace in the afterlife❤️

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u/Free_Dragonfruit_728 Aug 05 '26

Thank you brother, this really means a lot. It’s rare to hear it said out loud, especially from someone whose own country has been through so much. I wish Syria all the best and I mean that. Your people have carried a lot too.❤️🇸🇾💚

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u/oy1d Aug 05 '26

Assyrians in Syria itself despite having so much cultural value and history got so oppressed genuinely the saddest stories in the middle east that doesn’t get the attention it deserves.

I want y’all to stay resilient and proud of the amazing community you have.

Our countries name comes from Assyria and it lived to this day.

Even your abandoned villages alone have so much civilization so ofc I’ll always support you publicly with all my heart ❤️

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u/Free_Dragonfruit_728 Aug 05 '26

Thank you, brother. You have no idea how much it means to hear that from a Syrian, especially when so many people would rather we stayed invisible.

And you’re right about the name. Syria carries Assyria in it, and that’s not a small thing. It means we’re not just a footnote in that land, we’re part of its foundation.

The Khabour villages you mentioned still sit there empty, but the people who built them are scattered all over the world and still holding on to who they are and hope they can return. That’s the resilience you’re talking about.

Wishing peace and better days for your people too🇸🇾💚. We’ve both carried a lot.

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u/G-Ron123 Aug 05 '26

This guy doesn’t represent Kurds. I apologise on behalf of the true Kurdish people who know what getting oppressed and massacred is like

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u/Free_Dragonfruit_728 Aug 05 '26

Thank you, that means something coming from you.
The hard part is that it isn’t one guy. It’s land seizures, it’s villages we can’t go back to, it’s Assyrians with no political protection in the north. Individual Kurdish people being decent has never been the issue. We’re neighbors, and we always have been. What we need is Kurdish leadership saying it out loud the way you just did.

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u/Asphyxiaae Aug 05 '26

Bro, there is no need to apologize, if you think that what one person says holds true for an entire nation, you must be retarded

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u/Curious-Increase-206 Aug 05 '26

Can someone fill me in please what is going on?

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u/khwarism 29d ago

I'm a Kurd and I think these people are disgusting. Genocidal maniacs. They have never met an actual Assyrian. I hate how our government doesn't prosecute these ret*rds. It truly saddens me to see all this racism and idiocy come from my people, not to mention all the land grabs the KRG and federal government do

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u/ynot1972 Aug 06 '26

It's truly a shame that we cannot seem to unite and speak as one to the world. We seem to consistently tolerate mistreatment or oppression from Muslims, and we simply lack the resources to effectively challenge or defend ourselves.

Considering we haven't had our own country in a very long time, I believe our group has been more successful than any other at largely preserving our culture and language. However, it seems our oppressors tend to vanish, and while I'm not certain, I suspect God plays a part in that.

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u/Ihateusernames711 Aug 07 '26

What a shame

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u/GiraffeJaf Aug 06 '26

Is he an Islamist or something. What’s going on? Also he’s just one guy. In my city a few Assyrian assholes beat up an older pair of Jewish men after hearing them speak Hebrew. Does that mean we can label all Assyrians as Nazis?

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u/Free_Dragonfruit_728 Aug 06 '26

They didn’t beat him up for speaking Hebrew. It wasn’t a hate crime. The altercation started because of what the older Israeli man was saying to the younger Assyrian guys.

Kurds say this to us Assyrians constantly. If words were just words, and nothing ever followed from them, then sure, you could make that argument. But when there’s a track record of Kurds saying things and then being violent toward us, the words carry a lot more weight.

Why do you think Jewish people are so concerned about what gets said about them? There’s a reason. Words turn into actions eventually, and we’ve both seen it, genocide, repeated massacres, kidnappings, sexual violence, forced displacement, forced conversions. The difference is that Jewish communities have made sure those words carry consequences, because for them the words have had consequences before. We don’t have that leverage.

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u/Slow-Package5372 Aug 07 '26

What did Israeli man Said? Any source to read about this Accident?

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u/GiraffeJaf Aug 08 '26

Not true.

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u/Slow-Package5372 Aug 07 '26

Source about Assyrian beat up an Jewish men ? 

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u/GiraffeJaf Aug 08 '26

Look up Santana row Jewish attack

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u/Trengingigan Aug 07 '26

Aren’t Yazidis a Kurdish people?

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u/FantasticPay836 11d ago

No, they are a different group.

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u/One_Cress2720 Aug 05 '26

Is the "Kurds" you're talking about just some random Kurd nobody knows? Typical Assyrian propaganda.

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u/Free_Dragonfruit_728 Aug 05 '26

What a nice way of looking at it. So next time I hear a Turk or an Arab or a Persian talk about genocide or ethnic cleansing or displacement against Kurds, I’ll think the same exact thing. Just Kurdish propaganda. Thank you. You’ve really opened my eyes.

Except here’s the difference. Your people hold power over mine. To this day Assyrians are displaced and kidnapped, our churches and cemeteries desecrated, and we are kept second class. Assyrians do not do this to Kurds. Kurds do it to us, and the record is long.

And it doesn’t matter what level it happens on. Individuals, communities, political authorities. Every time there has been an opportunity to take from us, it has been taken. The Bedr Khan massacres. Seyfo. Simele. Land seizures across the Nineveh Plain, north Iraq, north Syria , and southeastern Turkey that no court has ever reversed. Assyrian Christians harassed, pushed out, and told to be grateful for what’s left.