r/askmath Mar 11 '26

Discrete Math Question on divergent/convergent sums

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if the infinite summation of 1/n diverges, and the infinite summation of 1/n² is the famous π²/6, what is the smallest value k for which the sum converges? Assuming it's not 2 already

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u/Rs3account Mar 11 '26

It converges for all k strictly bigger then 1.

Edit: even stronger if we define f(k) = Sum (1/n^k) then f(k) is weldefined for every complex number with a real part strictly larger then 1. And f can be extended to every complex number outside of 1.

u/productive-man Mar 11 '26

Can you help me prove something about the non trivial 0s of this function

u/Rs3account Mar 11 '26

Sure, they all have a real part equal to 1/2.

The proof is easy, I just can't fit it into the reddit response. ;)

u/Commercial_Handle418 Mar 12 '26

You could create a link lol 

u/Rs3account Mar 12 '26

It was a joke based on Fermats quote in regards to Fermats last theorem. ;)

u/axiomus Mar 11 '26 edited Mar 11 '26

Does sum of n-1-lnn [edit: sorry, i meant power to be -(1+1/lnn)] converge or not? i think it diverges but i’m not so sure

u/snake_case_sucks Mar 11 '26

Converges, ln(n) is increasing.

u/axiomus Mar 11 '26

You’re right, i hurriedly made a mistake

u/No_Yesterday_4260 Mar 11 '26

n1/ln n = e so the series is just the sum of 1/e n

u/xnuh Mar 11 '26

For all n>e your exponent is smaller than -2 so the result is smaller than n-2 so it converges.

The exponent in 1/nk needs to be smaller than 1 to converge and you put one that gets infinitely big so it pretty clearly converges

u/axiomus Mar 11 '26

You’re right, i hurriedly made a mistake

u/Illustrious_Try478 Mar 11 '26

It's the (non analytically continued) Riemann Zeta function.

u/Rs3account Mar 11 '26

yes, i just didnt think mentioning the zeta function by name would have been usefull. :)

u/GreaTeacheRopke Mar 11 '26

The others are correct

I just want to add, obviously it doesn't matter on Desmos but we generally use p here instead of k. So your question is about "p-series," which is something you can look up if you want to learn more.

u/Circumpunctilious Mar 11 '26

Thanks—I often just choose a variable (programming habit, probably) and would prefer not to distract people who know better.

u/GreaTeacheRopke Mar 11 '26

Of course; I only mentioned it to guide any further research you may do in case you didn't know.

u/MonitorMinimum4800 Mar 15 '26 edited Mar 15 '26

help?? is this guy not clearly ai? he's not even op

edit: well i stand corrected, but still interesting that you responded like you were op

u/Circumpunctilious Mar 15 '26

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u/tedecristal Mar 11 '26

There's no smallest value.

Any k>1 will converge

u/Baconboi212121 Mar 11 '26

Is that for real k? or just integer k?

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u/TheDeadlySoldier Mar 11 '26

Condensation test is easier no?

u/EdmundTheInsulter Mar 11 '26

My maths lecturer in 1985, he speculated about using a really fast computer to sum the first 1010 terms of 1/n, saying it wouldn't have got far to infinity, as if some mystical calculation a super computer may have done in an appreciable amount of time.

u/noonagon Mar 11 '26

There isn't a smallest k where it converges, it converges at all k above 1

u/HelicopterLegal3069 Mar 15 '26

There is no smallest value of k where the series converges!