r/YUROP May 09 '26

A New European Treaty (simplified)

POLL Q°: DO YOU "WANT" THIS TREATY OR NOT ?

(Applying solely to volunteers), the content would be the following one:

- A European passport in addition to the national one, it does not replace anything but is purely additive on a voluntary basis.

-9 May as a public holiday in Europe, commemorating the Schuman Declaration.

-A European citizenship that may be chosen on a voluntary basis and which takes precedence over national citizenship.

-Adoption of a European citizenship oath upon obtaining the European passport or citizenship.

-Creation of a European public television channel and digital platform.

-The European anthem “Ode to Joy”, the motto “United in Diversity” and the European flag with 12 stars become fully legally recognized as integral parts of the EU and are enshrined in a European Constitution.

-European citizenship will allow voting in presidential and legislative elections, subject to 5 years of residence and mastery of English or the language of the State concerned at C1 level.

Foreign affairs placed entirely under the supranational authority of the EU, with qualified majority voting in this area.

Abolition of the right of veto in the fields of foreign policy, European citizenship, treaty revision, police and judicial cooperation.

Constitutionalisation of the euro as the federal currency.

Lowering the minimum number of countries required to activate enhanced cooperation mechanism from 9 to 7.

-Creation of a multi-speed Europe by referendum.(still to define don't specifically take it into account)

-End of the current European electoral lists; they will no longer be linked to national parties. Citizens will vote directly for European parties and not for national parties affiliated with them.

-The European Parliament obtains the right of legislative initiative.

-Unification of stock markets.

-The EU’s capacity for common borrowing up to a maximum of €100 billion per year, decided by qualified majority voting, for any amount beyond this, current mechanisms apply.

-Official creation of a European Treasury.

-Possibility of joining the French nuclear umbrella (if France is part of this Treaty).

Creation of a European army composed exclusively of volunteer citizens.

Mutualisation of intelligence capabilities.

-A single and unified strategic command.

Transition from “Schengen-type” borders to purely administrative borders.

Additional clauses:

Revision clause every 5 years by convention, followed by a referendum in each participating State.

Clear and orderly exit clause (2-year notice period, negotiation of assets and liabilities).

Strengthened principle of subsidiarity, including the possibility for a State to “repatriate” a competence following a national referendum.

NOTE: it was not made by AI, it was just translated by it because the original text I wrote was in french (because I'm French) sorry if the translation is not perfect then😅

487 votes, May 16 '26
227 ☑️Yes, Totally
131 ✔️Yes, probably
73 ➖Not sure
33 ❌No, probably
23 🚫No, totally
Upvotes

8 comments sorted by

u/SunflowerMoonwalk Berlin‏‏‎‏‏‎ ‎ May 09 '26

Yes, totally. But I think individual citizens choosing if they want to become European citizens with European passports or not is completely unworkable. All member state citizens are already EU citizens.

u/Esteban83550 May 09 '26

I can understand, honestly hesitated to put it there, that's a valid point

u/knifuser May 09 '26

I pretty much agree but I would add that the constitution should be made and regularly revised by a Citizen's Assembly and then approved or rejected wholesale. Also the European Council needs to be abolished and replaced by a Citizen's Assembly or it risks becoming a roadblock to progress in much the same way as the US Senate.

u/PierreTheTRex May 09 '26

Does this suggestion mean that any EU citizen can vote in presidential elections of countries they live in? And that it would take 5 years for someone to become an EU citizen and then vote in any member state.

I'm not comfortable with people who know nothing about the politics and culture of a place voting for their most important elections just because they moved there 2 months ago and are EU citizens.

The rest I take less issue with, even if the whole European citizenship thing seems pretty pointless (we're already EU citizens) and I'm not sure what you mean about stock exchanges. Stock exchanges are private companies, and there's no point reducing the number of them, it probably would make the financial industry weaker.

In any case these measure are highly controversial amongst EU electorate, we should try and big back incremental integration because we haven't really made any changes in the past 20 years before we even think of a big treaty like this one

u/BigManScaramouche Poland‏‏‎ ‎ May 09 '26

Yes to some, no to others. I'm not sure.

u/giovaelpe May 10 '26

If there were a EU voluntary passport, I would totally go for it, and among all the things you mentioned, I think it is the easiest one to achieve; the other things would probably encounter a lot of resistance from governments.

The EU already issues a passport for its officials, so why not for its citizens? I've always wondered that...

u/notobamaseviltwin Deutschland ‎ May 10 '26
  • A European passport in addition to the national one, it does not replace anything but is purely additive on a voluntary basis.

What purpose would this serve? A member state's passport is already an EU passport.

-9 May as a public holiday in Europe, commemorating the Schuman Declaration.

Sure, but that should be each member state's decision (unless the EU actually united and needed a national holiday).

-A European citizenship that may be chosen on a voluntary basis and which takes precedence over national citizenship.

EU citizenship and the rights and duties that come with it should be the same for everyone, as in a member state's citizenship automatically including EU citizenship. And as long as the EU is not sovereign (but rather legitimised through its member states), national citizenship will always take precedence.

-Adoption of a European citizenship oath upon obtaining the European passport or citizenship.

Not for native born citizens of course, but upon naturalisation that wouldn't be unusual. That is, if the EU was one country and rules for citizenship weren't in the hands of the member states anymore.

-Creation of a European public television channel and digital platform.

There are already European media (like Euronews), but more wouldn't be bad.

-The European anthem “Ode to Joy”, the motto “United in Diversity” and the European flag with 12 stars become fully legally recognized as integral parts of the EU and are enshrined in a European Constitution.

I'm not sure those things (especially the motto) need to be in the constitution, but I wouldn't mind it either. The main change suggested by this point, though, despite being phrased more like a side note, is that there would be a European Constitution. I know there has been such a project, but that was just a unified treaty that was a constitution only in name. I don't think an actual constitution with the same value as a national constitution can exist without European sovereignty (which would require a European federation).

-European citizenship will allow voting in presidential and legislative elections, subject to 5 years of residence and mastery of English or the language of the State concerned at C1 level.

I don't like the idea of electing the president and the legislation separately because that could lead to rivalry between the two and a concentration of power in the hands of a single person. There are many examples of that not going well, such as the Weimar Republic, the United States and to a lesser extent even France (where Macron passed the pension reform without the parliament's (nor the people's) approval if I remember correctly). A parliament with hundreds of members that proportionally represent the people is much closer to the people's will and less prone to abuse of power.

Also, there should be no further requirements to vote other than citizenship.

Foreign affairs placed entirely under the supranational authority of the EU, with qualified majority voting in this area.

That might be sensible for the most part, except that in areas that don't affect the EU as a hole, it might be inefficient and go against the principle of subsidiarity.

Abolition of the right of veto in the fields of foreign policy, European citizenship, treaty revision, police and judicial cooperation.

While I'm mostly against veto rights, amending the treaty should always require unanimity. Because since the EU derives its legitimisation from the member states through the treaty rather than being sovereign on its own, it can only legitimately exercise power in a member state if that state has agreed to the treaty in its current form.

Constitutionalisation of the euro as the federal currency.

Having a unified currency across the EU would be good, but writing the specific currency into the constitution seems a bit unusual and potentially inflexible.

Lowering the minimum number of countries required to activate enhanced cooperation mechanism from 9 to 7.

That doesn't seem like a big change.

-Creation of a multi-speed Europe by referendum.(still to define don't specifically take it into account)

We should try to keep the EU together by ensuring that all member states can keep up with each other. But if individual member states' unwillingness blocked further integration for a long time, we might indeed need to consider alternative approaches.

-End of the current European electoral lists; they will no longer be linked to national parties. Citizens will vote directly for European parties and not for national parties affiliated with them.

Yes, and the election should be unified in general: Rather than each member state electing a fixed number of seats, the entire parliament should be elected by all EU citizens and each vote should have the same weight (though as long as we're not a federation, the current principle of degressive proportionality seems acceptable).

-The European Parliament obtains the right of legislative initiative.

Yes.

-Possibility of joining the French nuclear umbrella (if France is part of this Treaty).

Seems sensible. I would be for France volunteering its nuclear weapons for a European defence whose rules (e.g. when to use them) would be determined by all participating states, with France retaining the right to veto.

Creation of a European army composed exclusively of volunteer citizens.

Yes, if we had integrated enough to make that feasible.

Revision clause every 5 years by convention, followed by a referendum in each participating State.

I don't think there would be that much change so as to require a whole referendum in every member state every five years. Maybe every ten years or whenever the member states agreed on major revisions.

Strengthened principle of subsidiarity, including the possibility for a State to “repatriate” a competence following a national referendum.

Allowing nationalistically-minded member states to renationalise EU competences seems counterproductive in ensuring continuous and uniform integration.

(I don't really have an opinion on the points I left out.)

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