r/WhatIsTheTea • u/Ashish_ank What the Fuck • 6h ago

watch this Louisville man throws beer, shoves and kicks woman for rejecting him on second date

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u/herobrinetrollin 6h ago edited 6h ago

You can read his name pretty clearly, cool

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u/DustExtra5976 6h ago

Looks like he got fired

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u/Desperate_Algae_40 4h ago

That should be the least of his worries/punishments. He needs to be in prison for that.

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u/BienadictoXVI 4h ago

To the sun

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u/meldiane81 4h ago

Oh?? Link me? 😊

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u/Inevitable-Menu2998 4h ago

Ah, the mighty USA where justice is carried out not by the courts but by the institution of employment...

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u/DustExtra5976 4h ago

Surely you know the two aren’t mutually exclusive.

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u/Inevitable-Menu2998 3h ago edited 3h ago

The point is they should be. Losing your job because of a conviction makes sense. Being fired without a conviction for a perceived criminal offense is just the type of social justice that doesn't make any sense

This is not something an employer should have the power to punish

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u/ElectronicPhrase6050 3h ago

Imagine sincerely believing that a company firing someone who's bad for PR is an "American" or even uncommon thing lol.

You don't need a conviction when there's a video circulating of him assaulting her, it's already a potential PR nightmare for the company before the guilty verdict.

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u/Inevitable-Menu2998 3h ago

Considering that using this as a reason for letting someone go is specifically illegal in many countries, I think I'm safe saying they this is an USAism

You don't need a conviction when there's a video circulating of him assaulting her, it's already a potential PR nightmare for the company before the guilty verdict.

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u/Fogmoz 2h ago

If by “perceived criminal offense” you mean “caught on camera” then yeah they perceived the offense.

A private business has no requirement to assume innocence or wait for prosecution/conviction before making employment decisions. As long as it doesn’t violate a contract or constitute as discrimination, a business may fire an employee at-will.

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u/HauntingPsyche 2h ago

There’s literally a video of him kicking and throat punching a woman. What more do you need to prove he’s worthy of losing his job

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u/DustExtra5976 2h ago

They created an argument from nothing 100% a bot or a loser. Do yourself a favor and ignore it.

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u/Inevitable-Menu2998 2h ago

In most developed countries you can be literally Pol Pot outside of work and it is illegal for your employer to fire you. That is because most of the world recognizes that employers don't own your private life. Hope this helps

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u/-JimmyTheHand- 2h ago

In most developed countries you can be literally Pol Pot outside of work and it is illegal for your employer to fire you.

Source?

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u/Inevitable-Menu2998 2h ago edited 2h ago

You can find that for yourself, I'm sure, now that you know what to look for.

Edit: a hint is to look at employment law accross europe. While dismissal for bringing harm to a company's reputation is possible in various ways, the laws say that this has to be clearly demostrable to be legal. In some places this is clearly not legal unless it can be tied somehow to the employee's activity within the company (a private date obviously can't). In places where this rule is more relaxed, the employer must bring hard evidence that their bussiness suffered as a result of that employee's behaviour - they need to demosntrate loss of revenue or loss of .. something and that needs to be reflected in their internal/reviewable/auditable metrics. You realise that in practice that means that no employer will ever go through this process since actually being able to prove this without a doubt is really hard.

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u/-JimmyTheHand- 2h ago

You can find that for yourself, I'm sure

AKA no I don't have a source for the obviously false claim I just made

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u/-cumdogmillionaire- 2h ago

You can get your employment terminated for this video in almost every single country that you can think of, without any criminal conviction. The UK, USA, Canada, Japan, South Korea, Germany all allow termination due to conduct that harms the companies reputation or negatively impacts coworkers safety. This falls under both of those categories.

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u/Inevitable-Menu2998 2h ago

In the UK and Germany, the employer must be able to prove the harm through their internal metrics. That is most probably not possible and even if it is, most employers won't go through the trouble of having their names dragged through the courts for this.

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u/Fogmoz 2h ago

In “most developed countries” you can publicly assault someone and if you pay off the right people and/or escape conviction, your job can’t do anything about it. They have to keep you employed and put your coworkers & their reputation at risk.

“Developed” he says… thanks, but I’ll pass.

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u/Inevitable-Menu2998 1h ago edited 1h ago

Explain to me why you think that the employer should be able to do something about it. Assuming that the output of the employee at their job has not changed at all, why should the employer be allowed to do anything about it?

you can publicly assault someone and if you pay off the right people

how "developed" are we talking here if bribery is rampart?

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u/Fogmoz 56m ago

As I said, barring contractual obligation or discrimination, I don’t think a private employer should be required to maintain employment of a potentially dangerous/harmful individual. Conversely, I don’t think they should be required to fire such an individual, either. Nathan’s employers decided his employment wasn’t worth the optics or associated risks; that’s their choice. Your notion of “developed” removes that choice.

My response with the bribery was taking your idea of a developed nation to the extreme, because an unfortunate side-effect of requiring a conviction is that all of the power and responsibility is given to the courts - and to those who can influence the courts. Social pressure isn’t perfect, either, but at least it’s in the public view. Courts require faith in the system, and too often the system can be manipulated.

Also like… getting back to the specifics of this event, it’s one thing if there was a “he said/she said” - there I could understand not wanting to make assumptions - but this was in full view of the recording. He assaulted her. There is zero question, zero need to deliberate. Her decision to press charges guarantees a conviction in any fair or honorable court. His employers are exercising their right to get ahead of the situation before it can cause problems for them, too.

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u/-JimmyTheHand- 2h ago

a perceived criminal offense

I agree but this was not that lol

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u/Inevitable-Menu2998 2h ago

It is a perceived criminal offense until a conviction is made, no?

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u/Triquetrums 2h ago

If by perceived you mean we saw it? Sure, we all perceived it.

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u/Inevitable-Menu2998 1h ago

The whole legal system everywhere in the world exists specifically to not let people act on "perceived" evidence.

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u/Triquetrums 1h ago

Again, if by perceived you mean something that can be observed, then you are wrong. There is video proof that we can all see with our eyes.

I don't think you are using the word perceived right here. Nobody thinks he might have commited a crime. He did. We all saw it. Unfortunately the justice system takes more time than our eyes.

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u/-JimmyTheHand- 1h ago

It depends how you want to interpret it.

If I witness something illegal I'm not thinking hey I didn't witness a crime because no one has been convicted. If you want to see it that way you can though.

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u/Inevitable-Menu2998 1h ago

You are, of course, entitled to your opinion. That's not what we're discussing here. What I'm talking about here is the fact that in most developed countries, the employer cannot act leagally on an opinion and must rely on fact. If a person hasn't been convicted of a crime, they cannot be dismissed for being a criminal regardless of the evidence against them. They can be dismissed if they're under arrest, of course, but not for being a criminal - they're dismissed for not showing up for work.

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u/goronmask 33m ago

Perceived criminal offense? What the fuck are you on about, did you watch the video? Of course this is something an employer can punish. If you are caught on camera assaulting a woman like that then you are a piece of shit and I don’t think a decent business wants to employ that. This has nothing to do with a conviction.

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u/dotesdoto 4h ago

Fired from what job? Mcdonalds?

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u/Ink-Sky 3h ago

You shouldn't patronise them at the expense of service workers.

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u/dotesdoto 3h ago

What?

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u/Babajji 3h ago

Waffle House. McD workers are pretty peaceful, WH is a UFC recruiting camp 😂

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u/plainjane202567 3h ago

I’m crying. This is too accurate.

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u/BitWardenEternal 3h ago

Wdym?

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u/dotesdoto 3h ago

It doesn't really need any further explaining.

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u/BitWardenEternal 3h ago

It really does. Why are you asserting he works at McDonald’s?

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u/sbearman 3h ago

Right? Like wtf does that mean? A lot of people bust their ass everyday at mcdonalds for shitbags like this guy.

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u/ronnie98865 6h ago

Yep

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u/keinnamehier31 5h ago

Whats his name? I ask for a friend :>

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u/Almost_Lyrical 5h ago

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u/lightly-placed 5h ago

Apparently Mr Seale is now in jail w bond according to the first source I found and didn’t bother fact checking

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u/AuburnGinger 2h ago

I tried finding an arrest or mugshot from Germantown nor Jefferson County but found nothing.

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u/PreviousZone6742 5h ago

She wasn't wrong about the vibes.

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u/shoeless_doh 2h ago

Shit like this right here is why I totally understand women ghosting dudes

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u/Flat-Entertainer-299 5h ago

His last name is scale?

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u/Jackdunc 5h ago

Perfect for a lizard

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u/M_Aku 4h ago

The seal then add an e

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u/_bobby_cz_newmark_ 4h ago

His surname should be the French translation of it, given what he's actually like.

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u/Alana_Piranha 3h ago

What does it translate to?

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u/-JimmyTheHand- 2h ago

Phoque, which sounds like fuck

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u/PoMo-G 5h ago

Nathan Seale.

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u/the_Cheese999 41m ago

"we did it reddit!" moment

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u/ronnie98865 5h ago

You can Google it, that's what I did

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u/keinnamehier31 5h ago

Jeah i see. the good old Nathan

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u/Nice__Spice 5h ago

Think the last name says smallpeen or something

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u/Hot-Maintenance-5879 5h ago

Nathan Fielder? Seriously?

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u/Mysterious_Bid_9479 5h ago

Shoulda rehearsed that one more

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u/Hot-Maintenance-5879 5h ago

I see what you did there!

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u/JustineDelarge 5h ago

Good old reliable Nathan

Nathan, Nathan, Nathan the douche

If you’re looking for violence, he’ll give you a shove

‘Cause Nathan throws a tantrum when he doesn’t get love

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u/Hot-Maintenance-5879 5h ago

Donald Trump.

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u/Commercial-Camp4571 5h ago edited 2h ago

Not helpful at all or funny

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u/hellyeahaeylleh 6h ago

You know what to do boys. 😏🕶🤏 ... 😎

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u/Cultural-Ad6134 6h ago

lmao

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u/BZLuck 3h ago

"We did it Reddit!"

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u/ComradeOmarova 6h ago

Dude she’s not going to fuck you for white knighting around

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u/dakid1 5h ago

I love the projection here. The only people I’ve known to use the term “white knight” are complete incels who can’t imagine defending women without the intent of using them. It’s sad. Let me guess, without looking at your profile, you’re a single guy who frequents gaming subreddits

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u/ComradeOmarova 5h ago

The fact that you think she needs protection from reddit incels like you 🤣🤣 the irony is too much

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u/dakid1 5h ago

lol I’m married with kids, if that makes me an incel—sure.

Best of luck to you and your RuneScape girlfriend.

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u/somedumbdome 5h ago

Leave RuneScape out of this

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u/dakid1 5h ago

Lmfao I’m sorry, I played it myself quite a bit back in the day

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u/itspassing 4h ago

Classic Runescape being chill but catching strays

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u/R3alHumanBeing 5h ago

I'd say the guy in the video is 100% an incel

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u/BrandNewMoshiMoshi 5h ago

looks pretty voluntary to me

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u/R3alHumanBeing 5h ago

He wanted to sleep with her and she rejected him, that's not voluntary

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u/thebeardofhemingway 5h ago

it literally means involuntary celibate

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u/dakid1 5h ago

Dude is an actual moron

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u/dakid1 5h ago

lol you got upset at an internet stranger who suggested fucking up a domestic abusers life through DOXXING (I wasn’t that person). And called him a white knight. While being a gamer.

Do you understand what a pattern is?

lol anyway this is boring I’m going to bed with my wife. Have a good wank tonight

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u/No-Spare2071 5h ago

Lmao most of your posts are in gaming subs. You're definitely the incel here kid.

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u/ComradeOmarova 5h ago

Speaking of “projecting” 🤭

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u/fragrant-final-973 5h ago

NO U!

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u/RW_McRae 5h ago

So you really can't see a reason to go after this guy without getting something from her? You're that type of guy that would say "I know my friend hits his wife, but that's between them. She probably pissed him off"

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u/ComradeOmarova 5h ago

Do I see a reason to build up reddit rage in some make believe fantasy that you incels are “gonna do sumtin bout it”?? Lol no, I don’t

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u/Blacksad9999 5h ago

Turning a blind eye to one injustice is an injustice to all of humanity

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u/RW_McRae 5h ago

That's not what you said, though. You didn't say anything about him not being able to do anything.

You brought up white knighting and her not fucking him. You made a point to go after someone who talked about standing up against abusive guys like the one in the video and made it clear that the only reason you'd stand up to an abuser is if the woman would fuck you for doing it

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u/ComradeOmarova 5h ago

You’re proving my point. Women don’t need you and other reddit incels “standing up” for them.

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u/RW_McRae 5h ago

You're proving my point - you keep talking about it transactionally.

First off, women do need men to have their backs and call out shitty, abusive men. Too many guys like you let the abusers get away with it for too long.

Second, we can be against abusers just because they're abusers. I'm not sure why you're siding with the abusers. It's weird

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u/VonFunkenstein 4h ago

You've never seen a titty without having to pay for it.

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u/hellyeahaeylleh 6h ago

I ain't white knighting for her tf. I said YOU know what to do.

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u/wiseduhm 5h ago

He doesn't though. He seems like the type of loser to act like the guy in the video.

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u/fragrant-final-973 5h ago

Found one.

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u/drmojo90210 4h ago

Found the incel

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u/Blacksad9999 5h ago

This you?

Turning a blind eye to one injustice is an injustice to all of humanity

Guess you pick and choose, eh?

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u/totalimmoral 6h ago

Another Louisvillian here. Can confirm

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u/tanthalastanis 4h ago

That guy is definitely more of a Louisvillain…

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u/sparrow_42 3h ago

nice

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u/Rycan420 5h ago

Is that the proper term? I’m always curious.

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u/[deleted] 5h ago

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u/herobrinetrollin 5h ago

Second letter is an E btw. Had to edit

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u/arrillestradehouse 5h ago

NATHAN SEALE

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u/Garchompisbestboi 5h ago

As others have said, you should delete this if you care about your 12 year old reddit account because reddit has a very long and unfortunate history of protecting abusers by banning those who name and shame them.

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u/whitespacesucks 4h ago

Nathan to Seale here, move along

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u/ser_darkstar 6h ago

Hey jsyk you can get banned by Reddit admins for posting this. I would delete or edit and let people figure it out for themselves.

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u/Automatic_Actuator_0 6h ago

Is that still true if it’s been published in the media such as this? https://www.themarysue.com/this-man-needs-to-go-louisville-local-warns-of-violent-man-who-allegedly-attacked-her-friend-after-she-rejected-him-on-the-second-date/

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u/Nice-River-5322 5h ago

Man, I liked it better when 'news' outlets didn't call for mob justice.

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u/Neither_Strategy_252 4h ago

Nowhere in the article do they call for mob justice. But that you imagined it while reading the article is very telling. And, answers your question "why do people think that me and people like me are misogynists?"

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u/Nice-River-5322 4h ago

Entitled "This man needs to go"

Mkay buddy.

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u/DivineSaur 6h ago

Worth the ban

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u/cnicalsinistaminista 6h ago

Fuck that. Act like a piece of fermented shit in public, get your comeuppance in public

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u/ronnie98865 5h ago

You can Google it that's how I found out his name

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u/ser_darkstar 5h ago

Reddit doesn't care, they take the possibility of doxxing or sharing personal information very seriously and if he hasn't been arrested or prosecuted or shared by a legit news organization they will consider it as such.

I once got a ban for sharing a screenshot of transphobic messages someone sent me with their username uncensored.

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u/Pale-Ad-8691 6h ago

Yeah make it like a riddle instead

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u/bihari_baller 4h ago

I think it's a vestige of reddit covering up themselves from lawsuits. I remember like a decade ago when the wrong guy was identified as the Boston bomber on reddit.

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u/Troutalope1 5h ago

Got his name and he's on camera commuting battery. Has the woman not filed a police report?

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u/Reasonable_Manner817 5h ago

He’s been arrested

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u/nomoregravity 5h ago

Has he actually? Source?

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u/Only_Voice569 5h ago

shhhh

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u/wthulhu 5h ago

Haha. Get wrecked, Nathan.

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u/EverythingBOffensive 5h ago

truepeoplesearch is free too

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u/chrisaf69 4h ago

Zoomed in...yep!

Fuck him.

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u/Pretend_Confusion475 4h ago

Who cares? He’s a POS

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u/meldiane81 4h ago

I can’t get the full last name. S ale

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u/herobrinetrollin 4h ago

Seale

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u/Goatgoatington 4h ago

You mean Nathan Seale? S_ale for sure

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u/Economy_Evening_2989 2h ago

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u/unabnormalday 1h ago

For those of you interested enough, invert the colors on your phone

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u/Pardybro911 46m ago

Good. This fucker needs more than social media cancels