r/VoidCats 19h ago

Visible Void New void cat owner. Are these stripes hidden within the void common issue standard?

My void is black black. Great void form. But when he gets in the sun I notice these stripes that come out. (He has an orange brother that we adopted together. Idk if that matters) I’m a new first time void owner so I don’t know if the stripes are common or if this one is a little different?

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u/Recent-Hovercraft310 19h ago

u/Affectionate_Bad_680 18h ago

Oh no. You have oneblackbraincell and oneorangebraincell.

Prepare for utter chaos.

And being in love with every second of it 🤣

u/OreJen 18h ago

r/HalloweenKittyCombo! Just in time for spooky season! (But keep them inside because some people suck.)

u/someonewhohasnobrain 18h ago

I NEED MORE CAT SUBREDDITS

u/PurchaseTight3150 17h ago

u/Adacool 16h ago

it's always fake subs with these comments, except when it comes to cats lol

u/duney_mag 6h ago

The Internet was made by cats for humans to worship them (again).

u/Adacool 6h ago

the only conspiracy theory I'll never doubt

u/audible_narrator 17h ago

u/Particular-Jury-3251 7h ago

Nope, I prefer to find them in the wild

u/ftwclem 12h ago

I have never owned a cat and yet somehow every cat sub I stumble upon I have to join

u/Long-Okra1415 6h ago

CDS has you on their list...I look forward to the update!

u/Affectionate_Bad_680 18h ago

Ugh. Too true. People suck sometimes. Fortunately, I am not in that category and love any cat. 🤣

u/CanExplainThings 16h ago

Cattingham's Axiom:

For every cat post on the internet, there exists an equal and opposite niche subreddit dedicated entirely to that specific cat behavior, posture, or physical trait.

u/-3point14159-mp 16h ago

I have a 15-year old orange, a 4-month old void, and a 4-month old calico. Chaos is accurate.

u/ShadowAviation 11h ago

Pastel Calico 💖

u/-3point14159-mp 11h ago

She’s my first calico ever and she’s so gorgeous! Little pastel angel.

u/Effective_Thought918 8h ago

She’s a dilute! Those aren’t as common as the more solid coat. Dilute fur color comes from a recessive gene. She belongs on [r/dilutecalicos](r/dilutecalicos) and r/dilutecats

u/MrsTruce 10h ago

Awww, such a pretty lady!

u/Rosa_Mariechen 17h ago

u/CherryFit3224 14h ago

I didn’t know black cats ALSO have just one brain cell!

u/Houki01 14h ago

Black cats can be the cleverest cats on the planet, and the biggest idiots you ever saw. But unlike orange cats, it's often the same cat and incredibly often it's both within a five minute time time slot.

u/Peacockprince 12h ago

Yes my black cat can open doors and not just by jumping and catching the handles but by standing and slowly turning them because she doesn’t want to get caught. Same cat runs face first into walls when she gets zoomies. Her orange sister pushes open doors closed and traps herself

u/Dedicated_Lumen 7h ago

This comment needs to be pinned for Truth!

u/Recent-Hovercraft310 15h ago

We adopted them about a month ago now and they have been a handful! The best kind of handful though.

u/ActualAres 12h ago

At least there’s 2 whole brain cells

u/OdinNW 8h ago

And when they’re together they share a single brain cell

u/pink_flamingo2003 4h ago

My guy, this is one cat with two heads.

Op, you in Trubbbble.

u/reallynoladarling 16h ago

google Ghost Tabby. i have one too 😻

u/swingsurfer 15h ago

Yes, the hidden tabby undercoat comes out in the sunlight. I'm not sure I have a photo capturing it but here's my cat tax. His name is Maceo.

u/abielle1177 14h ago

Not all black cats are like this, it's probably a recessive gene.

u/NyneShaydee 13h ago

That's a beautiful name for a beautiful kitty! ❤️

u/Fapplezorg 14h ago

Gorgeous! What is their name? 🤍🤍🤍

u/ArkaneArtificer 8h ago

Lmao we did the same, a void and an orange together!

u/FranticBronchitis 8h ago

That looks like chaos incarnate and I love it

u/ArkaneArtificer 8h ago

Orange boy is pure chaos, black girl is much more tame, though still adequately insane

u/FranticBronchitis 7h ago

These two sleepyheads are all I've got

u/oobergoober420 14h ago

the void is just overcooked cheese

u/Stupid-Clumsy-Bitch 10h ago

Goodness gracious this is TOO cute

u/hahagato 8h ago

Ugh they’re so cute

u/Queso_Dias 19h ago

It's a ghost tabby! You'll see the stripes more in the sun and when they're kittens. Sometimes they fade more when they're adult but you'll still always be able to see the faint stripes.
It means they have tabby genes (either from mother or father)

u/Recent-Hovercraft310 15h ago

I learned something new today thanks to you!! We shall see what happens with Disco!

u/raybreezer 14h ago

We have a ghost tabby also! I didn’t realize they were a thing until we noticed stripes on our void.

u/Altruistic_Rock9395 13h ago edited 1h ago

IIRC it's the same principle as black panthers - they're achkshually not a separate species, just leopards with a genetic overproduction of dark pigments (melanism). Your kitty has a tabby blueprint, it's just "black on black". He's also adorable btw

u/Queso_Dias 14h ago edited 9h ago

My void is a ghost tabby also! I think the only breed of cat that is truly solid black is a Bombay. Most other black cats are mixed breeds and it's super common for cats to have tabby genes. That's why you might see a litter of cats that all look different- some orange, some black, some gray... And some of the kittens in that same litter might have the tabby genes from one or both of their parents where you'll see the faint stripes. It's pretty cool!

u/fireflake91 18h ago

Mine now 2+ year-old cat kinda had a matching level of stripes. I heard it sometimes called a phantom tabby and I’ll joke. It’s his secret underwear.

u/fireflake91 18h ago

He did try and eat some of my stickers here when he was rambunctious teenage kitten

u/Optimal_Savings5873 18h ago

Nose ring. Punk tabby.

u/Adacool 16h ago

does your void have a nose ring? 😭

u/PeriodicGirlfriend 12h ago

It’s not a phase

u/fireflake91 8h ago

lol that’s his fashion sense

u/MangoSalsa89 18h ago

Mine had very noticeable orange stripes on her tail as a baby that have faded. It’s super common!

u/lifeatthebiglake 16h ago

She’s a r/halloweenkittycombo all in 1 cat!

u/Eezagi 19h ago

Sometimes oranges and tabbies get baked for too long.

u/notwithagoat 16h ago

This is your cat on drugs

u/blbd 18h ago

Melanistic tabby pattern. Some have it when young. Some permanently. Like a black jaguar. 

u/Tariovic 16h ago

Fun fact - a panther is just a jaguar, puma or leopard with melanism, i.e. too much black pigment. You can still see any markings when the light catches them, just like OP's cat.

u/JuanesD 7h ago

This 👆. I don't find the source, but read a while ago that all voids are actually cats with pattern + melanism. I see those stripes also on my void girl, when the sunlight hits her in the right angle.

u/Striking-Double-3353 18h ago

Imagine how I felt when my tiny all black kitten turned white. Found out she has a fever coat and she's gradually growing out of it and turning back to black. Her belly is now black and she has a little white left on her bum which is also disappearing.

u/Hisyphus 16h ago

She looks like a little dust bunny 🥹🥹

u/Striking-Double-3353 13h ago

Just like she rolled in flour

u/SnakeEatingAPringle 17h ago

Here was my boy when he was younger. The place told us he was a smoke ghost tabby!!

u/teddybear__xoxo 13h ago

i love your name

u/coconutlemongrass 16h ago

My baby was very stripey when he was new! Now that he's a grown man baby (and fluffy) you can really only see his head stripes in direct light.

u/Cat_Lady3000 19h ago

Yes all black cats are tabbies! Your void should become darker with age. Mine was fully black by 6months old and had the same lighter coat as a kitten

u/Cat_Lady3000 19h ago

Mochi

u/Master_Toki1776 11h ago

We also have a void named Mochi :)

u/Cat_Lady3000 10h ago

Such a cutie pie 😍

u/ChankaTheOne 17h ago

Mine got brown, cant see no stripes though

u/Tonks22 17h ago

She’s rusted!! In summer my void gets called melted chocolate

u/rewindpaws 18h ago

All black cats?

u/Cat_Lady3000 18h ago

Yep! Put them in the sun and you will see their stripes.

u/DingDongTaco 18h ago

My cats in the sun all the time for 13 years and I’ve never seen stripes on him :/

u/_awkwardhugs 17h ago

I don’t think all black cats have tabby stripes although it is common. My black cat came from a litter of tuxedo cats and he does not have tabby stripes.

u/Cat_Lady3000 15h ago

They do, it's part of the genes that control pattern which is separate from color. It can be challenging to see but in the right light it will show

u/Queso_Dias 17h ago

Bombay cats don't have stripes. It's only tabby cats that do

u/watermelonpeach88 18h ago

i think it may matter if they are other breeds. like maybe all the skinny black cats?? i had a (what i assume to be) norwegian forest cat that was like 13 lbs, double coat...no stripes at any point. she was sort of dark brown in the bright sun, and then a grayish undercoat. absolutely no trace of tabby characteristics. 🤷🏽‍♀️ but i'm also not a hardcore cat-ist lol

u/meowMEOWsnacc 18h ago

Oh my god it’s like a fun surprise except with cat hair 

u/reallynoladarling 16h ago

not all, but maybe a good bit of them. i have one "ghost tabby" & one that's pretty much pure black.

u/wetwaspwednesday 12h ago

I'm a cat gene nerd and I can confirm this! All black cats do have stripes, some are just so hard to see you basically can't see them at all. Stripes are caused by banding in the hair between the stripes, caused by the Agouti gene. Solid cats do not have this noticable banding but they do still have stripes, even if you can't really see them. It's most easily noticed on kittens and brown + cinnamon cats.

u/nikkiunderwaves 16h ago edited 14h ago

We called her a racoon when we brought her home, now she’s all fluff and has a grey undercoat

u/TerriGato 9h ago

She is so cute!! 😭 Can I see an updated picture of her??

u/ColettesWorld 18h ago

Normal! All my black cats have a slight red/brown undertone that's only visible in sunlight. My first void also had vitiligo so he started slowly turning white with age lol

u/Mr_Alan_Qaeda 19h ago

Goth Tabby, cute!

u/Jayandnightasmr 18h ago

Fun fact, most humans have hidden patterns too

u/roboticArrow 16h ago

Mine had really funny helmet hair stress coat, and stripes. Here’s her helmet.

u/roboticArrow 16h ago

And her stripes!

u/roboticArrow 16h ago

Her now. Munchie!

u/Acrobatic_Toe_9832 18h ago

A ghost tabby. Such a cute one you have there ❤️

u/Dapper-Ad9787 18h ago

Yes, all cat colours stem from the original tabby, so that's the default peeping through.

If you ever see a black leopard or jaguar in a zoo in bright sunlight, you can see their rosettes behind the black as well.

u/DrGrimmus 15h ago

orange and void mix I guess, double the trouble

u/Recent-Hovercraft310 15h ago

His brother is an orange…so we are doomed

u/NikolaPoryazov 17h ago

The “ Great void form” part killed me. Big fan keep up the voidness

u/twilighttwister 15h ago

Fun fact: you may well have stripes also, and this is part of how your cat recognises you. It's just your stripes aren't visible to human eyes, but they are are to cats.

u/Kingtoke1 18h ago

Void ripples. Totally normal

u/gros-grognon 18h ago

All cats are tabbies! Just sometimes the stripes are only one colour and run together.

u/Half_Halt 12h ago

Reminds me of Rudyard Kipling's description of Bagheera in The Jungle Book: "inky black all over, but with the panther markings showing up in certain lights like the pattern of watered silk"

u/TheLastStickofGum 11h ago

She was a kitten in this photo (she's three now) but my void Luna has tabby stripes in the right lighting. :) 🖤

u/mercurialpanties 7h ago

Here is my void as a five week old foster.

u/mercurialpanties 7h ago

And her she is as a two year old foster fail!

u/mercurialpanties 7h ago

She lost all of her stripes.

u/Recent-Hovercraft310 7h ago

She is an amazing void.

u/mercurialpanties 7h ago

Thank you! 🖤🖤🖤 She's my first too.

u/JelloDesign 16h ago

I believe this is called ghost tabby, something i recently found out. Our front neighbors cat had 3 kittens. One is toxido. One is a orange tabby and one black ghost tabby. It really hits different. Its totally cool.

u/Connect_Rhubarb395 15h ago

r/hewillbebaked
You baked the orange tabby for too long and it got burnt.

u/Rehauu 15h ago

So far, every void or tux I've seen in the sun had faint stripes, including my tux boy. The gene for "black fur" is actually a gene that increases melanin. The color or pattern underneath is still there, just made super dark.

Also, in both animals and people, there is no true black, only different amounts of dark brown, because melanin isn't black either.

u/hlvr25 14h ago

My void had stripes when he was a kitten and he was medium hair so they disappeared as his full coat grew.

u/Psudodrake 13h ago

The scientific name for the domestic house cat is "Felinus Domesticus Pantheris"

Even in nature, the "Black Panther" is merely a melanistic Leopard

u/StonkycadeV2 12h ago

A black coat can come from melanism (genetic mutation), which darkens existing fur while the underlying pattern remains

This also occurs with big cats like leopards or jaguars, you can see their patterns too just like with your sweet boy :) Some cats do just have black coats though

u/EagleEyezzzzz 12h ago

My void has the dark brown underneath / in the sun, but no stripes!

u/dagnyfication 11h ago

Undercover tabby cat, very nice

u/Kenai_Tsenacommacah 11h ago

Yes. It's called the "ghost tabby" effect. Black cats are technically tabbies with higher melanin.

u/tsarina_larin 17h ago

Mine had these until he was about 1

u/Catsokitonovo6 17h ago

Ghost tabby!

u/LitheFider 17h ago

My void is black brownish in sunlight, but no pattern. So I think you have the Tabby who's just mostly black. 🤗

u/ILootEverything 16h ago

Yes, and many greybies have ghost stripes too! They're all just different ink saturations of tabby.

u/notwithagoat 16h ago

There are almost no pure black cats anymore and most are some form of tabby or so im told.

u/anothercairn 16h ago

So, fun fact. All cats have stripes. Only some cats have distinction in the intensity of the pigment such that it can be noticed with the naked eye in a dark room, but it would be visible in bright light (as seen here) or under a scope.

u/RayDoodles 15h ago

Wow, my kitten looks just like this right now!

u/Wide_Philosophy_8109 14h ago

My little man Onyx has racing stripes too.

u/Hour_Purpose5782 14h ago

Looks like your void is actually a tabby.

u/germangirl13 13h ago

Yes! My void has them as his mom was a grey tabby. He was adopted from a shelter so the father is unknown but he was the only void in the litter lol

u/UnderstandingBig9090 10h ago

Technically all cats have stripes. It just depends on how visable they are. Had a grey cat that you could look really close and notice stripes.

u/mizpixy 8h ago

Yes! Most black kitties are secret tabbies, if I recall correctly. Here's my boy seven years ago with his little stripes 🖤

u/OkFaithlessness2652 8h ago

Black cats ‘rust’ in sunlight. So very common.

u/ajkidd0 4h ago

yea! my void Tommy has stripes on his head if he sits in the sun a certain way ☀️

u/Strostkovy 17h ago

Yes. And black cats are actually a very dark brown. An extremely burnt orange, if you will

u/Individual_Umpire969 18h ago

Yep my void had them as a kitten

u/Rich_Nothing_4746 16h ago

It’s so his prey can’t determine his speed or direction of travel accurately haha!

u/cluelesslygaming 16h ago

My void also has stripes (so does my grey tux). They were more noticeable as a kitten, but shes two now and they're still visible in sunlight!

u/Lopojo 16h ago

🖤❣️

u/Few-Interaction-4933 16h ago

That's no void, but he's adorable. What's his name?

u/Recent-Hovercraft310 7h ago

Disco! 🪩

u/Few-Interaction-4933 6h ago

Omg that's the perfect name for him!

u/inarealdaz 15h ago

It's something that can happen. Our void's color is black on black smoke and he's striped, which your can only see when the light hits him just right.

u/Consistent_Cheetah78 14h ago

Sometimes. Have several voids… the one that is triple black had no stripes. The tuxie had stripes. I wish they would have stayed because they looks SO COOOOL. He did grow out of them. 😭

u/YAKG_86 13h ago

Awwww how old is the cutie

u/Recent-Hovercraft310 7h ago

Born on cinco de mayo this year!

u/Vequihellin 13h ago

Standard? No but melanistic tabbies are very very common among the void variants. My own Mr Enzo is a melanistic tabby as opposed to a 'true black void'. It's the domestic cat equivalent to a black leopard.

u/sheekgeek 13h ago

Black cats, orange cats, and standard issue grey cats all are genetic variants of the grey cat with stripes. 

u/copperear 13h ago

Black cats can show stripes in some light. Enjoy the void.

u/LifesAnOcean 10h ago

Its an enblackened tabby 🤓

u/JudgeFragrant628 10h ago

So cutes kitten 🐱

u/OkTemperature8170 9h ago

Issue? No. When my cat went missing I set up a bunch of night vision stuff and you'd be surprised how many voids are actually striped but you just can't see it.

u/Fireheart586 9h ago

Your void is just a orange cat who's color is turned down to zero

u/hahagato 8h ago

My baby has lots of ghost stripes too! But they’re only visible in certain lights.

u/gregn8r1 7h ago

I think somewhat common. I don't know if my kittens stripes are prominent enough to catch in a picture, but occasionally I'll notice some very faint stripes.

u/peeperoon 7h ago

My boy used to also have them! (Not the best photo for seeing the stripes but look how dumb he looks lol) he’s older now and you can’t really see them most of the time, but they still appear if the sun hits just right ✨

u/Daydreamz90 4h ago

Hidden tiger
Crouching dragon

u/FriendlyHearthling 2h ago

Omg, so cute!

This is normal, and the stripes will go away as he gets older. My cat was the same. You could mostly see them when he was in the sunlight.

He doesn’t have very visible stripes now, but he kept a little white spot on his belly.

u/Stillcantkillmeh 1h ago

I’ve had 2 voids that had sun stripes (looked striped in the sun) both grew up to show no stripes, even in sun.

Pamela as kitten

u/Stillcantkillmeh 1h ago

Pamela months later (with late brother and bff, Martin)

u/Mand125 17h ago

Ninja tabby!  Mine is too.

u/Lanky-Peak-2222 15h ago

The light is shining through the darkness 🌞

u/Dry_Factor_669 15h ago

I think so, my voids "stripes" were easier to see when she was a kitten tho.

u/ZookeepergameDue5522 8h ago

Black cats are actually really dark orange cats.

u/PikaPerfect 6h ago

yeah, that's normal! technically all cats have those because genetically all cats are tabbies (if you see a solid-colored cat, other than white**, it just means that the pattern ended up being the same or a very similar color to the base coat). usually in black and dark gray/brown cats in particular, you can't see it, but when they're kittens or when the light hits them the right way, then the pattern will show up like that

**white cats are a little different in that all white cats are genetically some other color because "white" is not a base coat color for a cat; white spotting is its own gene, but it can potentially cover the entire base coat which results in the cat having white fur. if you were to breed two white cats together, it's possible (albeit unlikely) to get absolutely zero white kittens because of that lol

u/LilithMae 6h ago

I believe I once learned the stripes on cats are actually a different type of fur, not just pigment. Can anyone who knows more elaborate on this?

u/MElastiGirl 6h ago

Crypto tabby!

u/27zerk 4h ago

How fun! Mine was like that too when she was a kitten.That's why I named her Nebula. (She's since grown out of them)

u/fuzziekittens 3h ago

One of my black cats was like that too! If you see her in the sun at just the right direction, you can see all her stripes!