r/SipsTea • u/Gurugod123 • 3h ago
SMH The easiest $30k this guy ever made
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u/WonkyDonkey33 3h ago
“Is it illegal to lay down and look at the sky”
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u/Michael1795 3h ago
gets arrested
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u/VictorTheCutie 2h ago
'Merica! 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🦅🦅🦅
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u/Super-Cynical 2h ago
"Officer I believe I have seen a homeless man and I don't want to see homeless men ... no I said I don't want to SEE homeless men"
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u/fidesz_fall_enjoyer 3h ago
Looks like it is
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u/dj11211 2h ago
Gets $30k settlement.
Looks like it wasn't.
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u/eggs_erroneous 2h ago
Cops have a saying about this very thing: "You can beat the case, but you can't beat the ride." Meaning that you might win when you get your day in court, but the cop absolutely has the ability to ruin your day by taking your ass to jail. And they love that shit and think it's funny. Getting thrown in jail can be enough to make you lose your job, or get your kids taken, or get your car impounded where it's too expensive to get it out. In the county I live in, you stay in jail for 24 hours before you can bond out. By the time you go to court, the damage can already be done. Fuck the pigs.
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u/zewill87 1h ago
Yeah great post. They laugh about it because the settlement doesn't come out of their pocket... it should. Is that why in America they need to constantly talk about liberty over tyranny to make sure people believe they are free? Sure looks like they aren't, with so many so close to bankruptcy, as you say, a bad day and you're screwed.
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u/Low_Preference_4641 41m ago
Which is why police should have to carry insurance and why civil payouts should come out of the police pension fund.
You're going to see wayyyy more of a culture of doing the right thing, led by the old heads close to retirement, of not pulling shit like this on harmless civilians if it hurts their back pocket.
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u/SimpleAffect7573 47m ago
Plus you’ll have an arrest record. Wrongful arrests, even straight mistaken identity, still leave a record. In my state, prospective employers can only ask about convictions (not arrests) and only after a conditional offer. Just a few years ago, however, and still In many states, they can ask if you’ve ever been arrested. Then you’re in the position of having to explain yourself.
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u/Bazzatron 2h ago
Rip taxpayer money.
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u/petererch 2h ago
thats the funny part. its our money. taxpayer money. I work as a lawyer. I fund my entire life by suing the state for inactivity on behalf of my clients. You practically always win.
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u/TeeDee144 2h ago
Well considering he had to go to jail, the public embarrassment of being taken to jail, the hassle of having to hire an attorney, who took 1/3 of his $30k, I would still consider that a grave overstepping into his legal rights.
So maybe he got some cash but I’m willing to bet he spent a lot more than $20k having to clean up ACABs mess in just his time alone.
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u/meelytime 2h ago
"You can beat the rap, but you can't beat the ride." -- the cop, who arrested someone for doing nothing, probably.
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u/TeeDee144 1h ago
Exactly. And now his face, voice, and name will appear on Reddit every 6 weeks by repost bots.
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u/sweet_poisons 3h ago
Land of the free
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u/thirteenth_mang 3h ago
Whoever told you that is your enemy
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u/RohelTheConqueror 3h ago
I'm even more shocked that sleeping on a bench seems to be actually illegal. Wtf man
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u/for_dishonor 2h ago
It's probably not. What happens is the cops get a call from a citizen (most likely a busybkdy) and they have to go take a look because the guy could be high/drunk, or having a medical emergency.
What should have happened was a 60 second conversation to determine he's not one of those two and then the police go about their business. This cop was just on a power trip.
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u/WonkyDonkey33 3h ago
Because they can tie that in with vagrancy or public intoxication and get an easy arrest.
That’s why they do it.
Still crazy though. Couldn’t imagine life being much fun if you were homeless
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u/DigitalUnlimited 3h ago
Been there. It's exhausting, you can never stay in one place gotta keep moving, it sucks.
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u/WonkyDonkey33 3h ago
I hope you’re in a better place now bud
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u/Fun_in_Space 2h ago
My city made "camping outdoors" illegal, and piled up rocks under bridges where homeless people used to sleep. Some places make it illegal to give food to homeless people. Republicans really hate poor people.
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u/bigfatskankyho 2h ago
So there is a different indoor camping that I am unaware of?
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u/Fun_in_Space 2h ago
I guess they mean "other than a campground where you paid to be there".
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u/KeyEntrepreneur5449 2h ago
I LOVE that our community has become so afraid of people who use public spaces that we police public works like this so everyone's afraid of getting shot by a cop for the crime of relaxing in public. It’s the BEST!
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u/PM-Me-Spread-Pussy 3h ago
It's illegal to lay down and look at the sky.... in the "Land of the free!" 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🇺🇸
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u/NoBell5255 3h ago
Make the 30k come out off their pensionsfunds.
This will not stop untill it hurts them personnally.
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u/AppointmentMinimum57 3h ago
The police mafia wont let that happen.
They abuse citizens and citizens have to pay for it through their taxes.
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u/v00d00ley 3h ago
So it's kind of collective masochism, right? Any advice on safe word?
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u/bikkuri_hanbaiki 2h ago
I think you mean collective sadism.
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u/v00d00ley 1h ago
Nope, if you pay for punishment on yourself it's masochism, if you are being paid to punish someone it's sadism.
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u/onlyfakeproblems 2h ago
Try “Am I being detained?” It probably won’t work, but it’s worth a shot.
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u/muaddibmahdi 2h ago
The thing is that every state can make this a law tomorrow. And they don’t. Bc the police work for them. And then state politicians work for the rich.
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u/FOSSnaught 1h ago
Amazes me that their job is to enforce the law, but they have no requirements to know the law. So many of our protections require lawyers after the fact, potentially years, and essentially involve saying magic phrases during police interactions to protect ypur rights eventually.
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u/Appropriate-West-180 17m ago
What irks me is that "ignorance of the law is no excuse (or a legal defense)" yet they have qualified immunity because "sometimes government officials make mistakes" (in other words, they're ignorant of the law).
Qualified immunity needs to end because it doesn't work both ways.
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u/Organs_for_rent 2h ago
I had what seemed like a reasonable idea the other day.
What if we make law enforcement officers carry malpractice insurance? If all LEOs have it, premiums can be kept low. This insurance could cover legal defense of officers in the line of duty and settlements/damages awards to plaintiffs; this way, these costs are not borne by the community (taxpayers).
Since this insurance is tied to the individual LEO, their premium rate follows them even if they move precincts. Good cops are cheap to cover and easily employable. Bad cops will have higher premiums. When an LEO's premiums get too high, they simply cannot afford to work in law enforcement; those "bad apples" are no longer in a position to harm the community.
I'll admit that I have not thought long and hard about this idea. I'd listen to reasons why this wouldn't work.
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u/oeqzuac 1h ago
what if you just invented the law and they just fucking had consequences
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u/Organs_for_rent 1h ago
That's supposed to be the system currently in place. There is clearly room for improvement.
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u/ThanklessNoodle 3h ago
They should have to carry insurance, Mandatory professional liability insurance, that they have to cover in some form.
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u/skydrago 2h ago
This. Taking it from the pension fund will cause police to cover for each other, but by having to carry malpractice insurance it will weed out the dipshots pretty quick.
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u/vertigostereo 2h ago
Ok, but then they won't leave the station for anything. We saw this "quiet quitting" for a while after George Floyd and others and BLM.
And they're unionized.
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u/TheReddestofBowls 2h ago
That would be quite a tantrum from asking someone to do their job with a basic semblance of accountability.
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u/Weary-Jelly7802 2h ago
A handful of states let you personally sue the officer and not the department. Hopefully it becomes nation wide can't see that doing as much harm as my taxes paying for these when the citizen wins settlements.
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u/baz8771 3h ago
LMAO it’s straight from public tax dollars homie, don’t kid yourself
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u/Firm-Chemical949 3h ago
Next question, who’s the c*nt not minding their own business and calling on people for being in a public park? They sound like the one who’s a menace to me
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u/Swordslover 3h ago
Probably some HoA cunt
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u/DFu4ever 2h ago
These types will go into other neighborhoods that don’t even have an HoA and will start shit.
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u/anengineerandacat 2h ago
Likely either someone calling in a bum, or positively someone afraid calling in a wellness check.
The issue here wasn't really the call in, it was the way the cop handled this.
Go in, see the person is okay and mentally sound (well ish, sounds like dude was unpacking things) and then go about your day.
An actual community cop would sit down with the dude and check to see if everything is actually okay and if they need assistance but these cops are rare.
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u/bama501996 2h ago
Cop that got in it to help people, one of the good ones, could have just sat down with the dude dropped a "Yeah man the sky is beautiful. You doin alright?",but nah for some reason that style of interaction is a one in a dozen and this is way more likely the outcome.
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u/onlyfakeproblems 2h ago
If someone is lying down in an exposed place like that, they might be having a medical emergency, but in this case it was probably the same sort of person who voted for sleeping in the park to be illegal.
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u/JerkingSpine 2h ago
In Europe we call this chilling in the park lol
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u/Firm-Chemical949 3h ago
They should’ve checked that person afterwards for wasting their time and endangering another person who wasn’t doing anything
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u/KyleAltNJRealtor 2h ago
“Hey we got a call that someone was sleeping. You’re not allowed to sleep here.”
“I wasn’t. I was just looking at the sky.”
“Okay just make sure not to sleep here because people are watching and will definitely call. Have a good day.”
Could literally be as simple as that.
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u/FlattenInnerTube 2h ago
That simple. But no. Deputy Dawg Tanner gets his panties in a bunch that Logan didn't kiss his ass and here we are.
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u/InevitableGreedUK 1h ago
“Okay just make sure not to sleep here because people are watching and will definitely call."
Why are you not allowed to sleep on a bench? Why are people calling the policce over this?
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u/ADimwittedTree 1h ago
You're not allowed to because it's what homeless people do. So they made laws against it.
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u/zurenarrh36912 3h ago
Cop doesn’t care. He’s not on the hook for that money. Tax payers covered it for him.
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u/SalivateTheStarfish 2h ago
Plot twist. The guy called himself in. He needed a new PC.
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u/OtherwiseLuck888 3h ago
US cops are addicted to ID and brainlessness
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u/EarlyBirdWithAWorm 3h ago
Theyre a bunch of snowflakes with fragile egos and don't like when citizens are informed of their rights and don't immediately capitulate to their "authority"
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u/protractedmane 2h ago
That's all this was. He didn't give his ID because he didn't want to, and that's what irked the officer. Literally no cause for arrest here.
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u/Simple_March_1741 3h ago
That's what happens when you take the dumbest fucks in the country to do the job. On top of that - laughable training.
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u/eyeforker 3h ago
“There I was laying on my back, looking at the sky, wondering how I was gonna come up with the $30k to save the rec centre from being bulldozed to make that golf course.
Dance contest? Ski contest? Underground pirate booty mobster chase with my friends and brother and the girl he likes and also her friend?
Then suddenly this cop walks up as if he was delivering the cash himself. Didn’t even have to make a poster for the dance contest.”
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u/MancDude1979 3h ago
Why is it that in the land of the free none of you are free to do anything? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
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u/FanOfMen69 3h ago
Successful brainwashing.
Tell a child they are the best, richest and most free in the world, but they live in a cage and never leave it.
They will believe you.
Now the USA is better than a lot of places. But when you take the USA and any western European nation or Austria etc, you start seeing real free happy people who live in a safe part of the world.
USA most certainly is far too dangerous to compare.
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u/MancDude1979 3h ago
I'm English.... the example in this post wouldn't get past the 1st step... call emergency services here, tell them someone is asleep in public, the caller is the ONLY one with any chance of seeing the police, for wasting their time! USA wrote the rules on measuring freedom and have never fared very well under their own measures... best ever position was 17th I believe... most big European countries, including UK, have ALWAYS been higher than USA on their own scale, amd Canada has basically torn them to pieces, usually more than 10 places above USA. From outside, the way Americans view their own freedom... it is pure craziness...
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u/Md__86 1h ago
Came here to say this. As someone who lives in a country where I'm subject to the king of England walking into my house and pushing me around, all I see on Reddit (fair enough is it's Reddit) is people not being free to do anything, despite it being constantly rammed down our throats about how freedom only exists in the USA.
Can't even cross the road without permission over there and now you can't be comfortable in a park
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u/buddhist557 1h ago edited 1h ago
I have a proposal to stop this police behavior immediately. For any settlement, at least 50% of the settlement and up to 100% of it against a police officer will be taken from the collective pension fund for all police officers. I guarantee we would not see this again and it would improve overnight.
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u/Extraajudicial 2h ago
When the supreme court decides you don't have to know the law to enforce the law this is what you get.
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u/On_Wife_support 2h ago
I have a friend who was arrested for meditating in the rain. Cops are so useless
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u/War_Hymn 39m ago
A guy in my town had his car stolen, but he managed to use his airtag to track it down to a locked boxcar in a railyard. Called the local cops, who said they couldn't do anything because that was the rail police's jurisdiction. He then called the rail police, who told him they couldn't do anything because auto theft wasn't part of their jurisdiction.
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u/Cola_Gummi 3h ago
Cops can never just fucking relax and say "ok cool, you're good, have a nice day". Always about escalating. Always about being "right", although they're the dumbest mfers on the street. Every call that comes in from a passerby or "concerned citizen" or third party is treated like a crime rather some dumbass annoyance like they usually are.
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u/Tr3v0r007 2h ago
The reasons pretty simple btw it’s cause their bored
Also a lot of these kinds were high school bullies that continued that bullying later in life
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u/howie-chetem 3h ago
They're actively trying to escalate so that they can generate more fine revenue
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u/MikeTiricoSucks 3h ago
Cops do relax and deescalate 99% of the time. You just don’t see those videos because they don’t spark outrage.
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u/Wessssss21 3h ago
I'm a white guy in the US. Of my 3 interactions with police, only one didn't escalate, and that was because they got called away.
I got pulled over in stop and go traffic for my GPS being suction cupped to my windshield. Which is technically an obstruction and against vehicle code my state.
From that point on kept it in my cup holder, because me completely losing sight of the road to look down at my now non-obstructing GPS, is somehow the better option than it sitting just above the center console affixed to the windshield.
99% of cops are dirtbags because even the ones that aren't, don't stop the ones that are.
Like in this clip there are two officers, the other one doesn't do shit to protect this mans rights. 2 bad cops.
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u/xSorry_Not_Sorry 3h ago
Its the old adage "If there is a Nazi at the table talking with 9 other people, you have 10 Nazis at a table".
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u/ArchitectVandelay 3h ago
That number seems high, especially around people of color.
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u/onlyfakeproblems 2h ago
It happens, probably the majority of the time, but it’s less newsworthy so you’re not going to see clips as often. This cop was either poorly trained or power tripping.
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u/geminigoofy 2h ago
Also, sleeping in public shouldn't be illegal. Seriously, what kind of unkind society are we? This whole interaction screams authoritarian state.
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u/cplcuties 1h ago
Seriously, what kind of unkind society are we?
....an authoritarian one. I think you just answered your own question 😂
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u/zorkieo 3h ago
Are police not trained to avoid these situations?
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u/arizonadirtbag12 1h ago
Officially, yes.
Unofficially, they are trained to never, ever “lose” in any contact with the public. Any loss of authority is unacceptable. So once he asked for ID, he had to get that ID, or he “lost” and the authority of the police as a whole crumbles.
It is worth $30k (of the city’s money) to prevent that to them.
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u/OldKaleidoscope3766 2h ago
I hear all the time about how we are a christian nation but I never see any evidence of it.
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u/lowbatteries 1h ago
a) no, US is not a Christian nation
b) being Christian doesn't mean you're a good person
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u/truckensafely 3h ago
As long as the PDs have tax payers $, this will not stop. Defund corrupt cops.
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u/wolfonweed 2h ago
As soon as a cop lies to you, there is no reasonable expectation of cooperation. If he is willing to lie to your face, he is willing to lie about what you said in official reports.
Do exactly what this guy did and get paid every time. If everyone getting paid every time they talk to the police bankrupts the city, so be it.
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u/tinzor 3h ago
Still hilarious to me when I hear American's say "we may have our problems but at least we're free!"
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u/tijolus523 51m ago
We may have our problems but at least we're free!*
terms and conditions may apply
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u/cooolcooolio 3h ago
The land of the free, unless you want to lay down and look at the sky cus that's illegal
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u/Impossible-Animator6 3h ago
US cops have a lot of time on their hands. Forget questioning, police in my country won't even take the "suspicious guy sleeping on a bench" call seriously.
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u/eggs_erroneous 2h ago
As a taxpayer, I get super pumped when we have to pay for a cop's ego bullshit. Why does every single cop have the exact same insecure-as-fuck personality? They just love flexing that power.
I am a law-abiding, middle-aged, meek, white dude and I say this with everything in my heart: Fuck the police.
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u/bomboclawt75 2h ago
That money should be garnished from that department's pension pot.
That's the way it should be.
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u/Delicious_Rabbit4425 2h ago
I gotta try this one easy hack! Step 1. Sit on a bench in a public area.
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u/Plumbtrician619 2h ago
Cops turn into little kids when they don't get their way. All that training and still can't use common sense. Like okay you're not doing what people said you're doing, have a nice day. It's not hard. Cop should be fired after that.
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u/slumberpartymassacre 1h ago
They can never back down and say "My mistake, enjoy your day." Their egos are too fragile.
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u/Prollynotafed 2h ago
This is the kind of shit that happens when people don’t mind their business. I worked adjacent of law enforcement for over a decade and the amount of Karen and Ken’s that use the police as weapons and the fire dept as taxis disgusted me.
Did you know some apt complexes will evict you if police are called to your door more than once? Guess what happens when a spiteful and angry ex find this out and calls in a welfare check on you because you didn’t answer your phone at 5am on a Sunday morning and “they’re worried about your safety because he/she was out drinking all day”
Translation: “My ex spent the day at the beach with family and posted about it on Facebook, that makes me mad because I’m a spoiled brat and they shouldn’t be having fun 6 months after we broke up”
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u/ratthew 2h ago
How does the average American feel seeing this? Getting harassed for no reason in public AND wasting tax money by having police not only take the call but actually drive out with TWO officers because someone is sleeping on a bench AND giving that guy 30k tax dollars payout for the whole ordeal on top? And I don't even want to know how much tax money was wasted on fighting the case as well. Crazy.
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u/SillyMammo 1h ago
The guy was obviously going through some s**t and was trying to work it out while looking at the sunset. Cop could have sat with him and ask him how he was doing. That's what an empathetic person would have done.
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u/Sea_Kale_9322 3h ago
They switched thinking from resolving the problems to resolving the call. Someone called about x so they need to do it. Why is that?
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u/Combei 2h ago
Who the hell calls the cops on somebody sleeping in the first place? Land of the free my ass
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u/ledow 2h ago
Yeah, you can't arrest someone for not providing their details when they haven't reasonably been seen to commit any act that would require them to present their details.
Even if he was sleeping, unless he's basically RESIDENT in the place, is that illegal anyway? You can't have a nap in the park now? Are there "no sleeping" notices around? What if an old guy nods off on a park bench for 5 minutes?
Ridiculous.
Bigger question? Who phones police about a guy sleeping in the park? If you're worried about him, go check on him. If not, leave him the feck alone, what do you think you're going to improve about his situation?
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u/Nintura 2h ago
Hint: probably no phone call and it was made up on the spot so they’d have a reason to harass
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u/Dzbot1234 2h ago
Or the guys mate phones it in, and they split the money! Hah free money glitch, with only a fifty percent chance of death
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u/sajkoterrapefft 3h ago
I can't imagine living in the US.
I have never in my 40+ years on this earth been afraid of sitting down in an empty park and enjoying the view.
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u/Vonplinkplonk 3h ago
I know it’s wild. Literally sitting by yourself with as identified by the police, no one around, can get you arrested by the police. There are other comments here talking about the "other 99% of videos where there’s no escalation".
People have forgotten so quickly how projections were being made in the 2000s about when the entire US adult population would be imprisoned or working the prison system.
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u/SirTroglodyte 2h ago
Infinite money glitch discovered.
Go to a Karen-infested area.
Just chill.
Refuse ID to the cops that eventually show up.
Settle for $30k.
Move to the next Karentown.
That's easy $10M in a year if you have a few days off.
Retire.
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u/hobbyhacker 1h ago
only if you are a white man. in any other case you will be assaulted/killed eventually.
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u/Photodan24 2h ago
Good!
Police departments being responsible for massive outlays of cash to people they shouldn't have arrested is the only way their behavior will be ordered to change.
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u/Fransjepansje 2h ago
Cops in the USA are just as dumb as their President. They deserve each other.
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u/One-Skill-7058 2h ago
It's time we fight the police and start taking their pensions. Fuck these unions and anyone that protects these assholes. Anyone that violates our constitutional rights like that should be locked up
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u/Bean_Daddy_Burritos 2h ago
“We got called here so I have to identify you.”
Yea that’s not how it works. For reference, when I was setting up my cars remote start (Toyota subscription garbage) I made the call from my cars on board system while at work, no responses I hung up. I went home, police showed up about an hour later after receiving a call from Toyota about a possible stolen vehicle. I told them it was my car, they asked for proof and I told them no. They asked for my id and I told them no. They said “ok have a nice day” and they left. Even when Toyota called them about a possible stolen vehicle, they didn’t have enough articulable suspicion to detain me for a crime which meant they had no grounds to ask for my ID or proof of ownership. The car was in the driveway in which it was registered but they had no idea who I was, still didn’t give them grounds to identify me.
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u/Stepman35 1h ago
Should have gone like this...
"Hey man, we gotta a call to investigate a guy sleeping under the flagpole. You alright?"
"Yeah, I'm cool. Just relaxing"
"Great, have a good day"
Investigation over...
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u/innovativesolsoh 1h ago
Yeah, this was 100% because the officer decided he didn’t like the dude standing his ground.
Anyone with any sense could tell this dude wasn’t doing anything obviously wrong enough to merit the officer committing to this ‘investigation’.
Receiving a call about ‘suspicious’ activity cannot possibly be any lower of stakes. It’s not like the caller was standing there watching. That officer made it a big deal because he wanted to.
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u/Pootisman16 2h ago
I never understood this obsession US cops have with you needing to identify yourself no matter what.
If he's committing a crime/felony, then the onus is on the cop to support said suspicion. It has to be articulate and clear, not "Oh we got a call someone is sleeping here."
Otherwise nonsense like this happens and it's the taxpayer who gets fucked, not the incompetent cop.
And even then, is it even illegal to take a fucking nap in a public space???
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u/cancerBronzeV 3h ago
Said academies provide warrior training where police are taught to view everyone as a potential criminal (rather than guardian training, where cops are taught to be protectors). A certain very moral middle eastern military also regularly sends over their people to assist in this police warrior training to help teach how innocent civilians can be looked at as dangerous criminals.
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u/Famous-Rich7454 2h ago
He definitely knows the law. Now he needs to teach a class at the police academy.
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u/Available-Theory-808 2h ago
These cops are dumb as bricks. I ask you to do something you don’t have to do. You decline. I arrest you.
Oh wait. Maybe they’re fascists.
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u/Reasonable_Goat6895 3h ago
Just ask if the reporter left a name or gave the report anonymously. If its anonymous, then its hearsay.
Bye officer.
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u/DorkHonor 2h ago
New side hustle idea baby! I'll happily go lay in the park watching the clouds every few months and have my wife call the police to report suspicious activity on a burner phone. Hit one jurisdiction a quarter for a year and you're making $120k annually to work four days a year.
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u/DiligentMeat9627 2h ago
The cop couldn’t care less. He got to be an asshole (which is why he signed up to be a cop) and it didn’t cost him anything.
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u/MysteriousReaction43 2h ago
If they'd start finding the cops for breaking the law, they'd learned the law
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u/Gurugod123 3h ago
On October 26, 2022, the judge ruled that Walden's contact with Land should have ended when it became clear that Land was not sleeping in the park or in need of assistance, and that the city was not responsible for Walden's actions.
On November 22, 2022, the city settled the lawsuit for $30,000.