r/SipsTea 3d ago

Chugging tea Thoughts on this?

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u/EnvironmentalGift257 3d ago

You can reduce crime by reducing poverty. You’ll never eliminate either. Authoritarians believe that they can eliminate crime by increasing suffering which is why they’re wrong.

u/Badestrand 3d ago

El Salvador reduced their crime from crazy high to almost none by harshly imprisoning all their criminals.

u/TheRealNooth 3d ago edited 3d ago

You mean the dictatorship? Yeah, I don’t trust those numbers. That’s like saying “North Korea has a god as supreme leader because they said so.” Especially a dictator that labeled himself the “world’s coolest dictator” on social media. He totally wouldn’t lie for optics, would he?

All the literature on the subject shows that making punishments worse doesn’t actually reduce crime.

u/Badestrand 3d ago

I think it's well established that El Salvador massively reduced their crime rate with their hard panusihments.

The question is rather, if this is transferable, and it's probably not, or at most partly.

Afaik you need swift consequences but you also need to not put people in prison for too long and you need to help them back into a stable life after that.

u/ThatZX6RDude 3d ago

Some people just aren’t capable of a stable life. Sometimes ya gotta put the dog down