And black clothes. And the eyeliner or whatever. I don’t know from makeup. And comically pale skin. Looks reasonably goth-y to me. Or at least some kind of scene type thing? Emo? Again, I don’t know from subcultures.
That’s not what makes a goth. It’s about the music. Unless she listens to gothic rock or darkwave she isn’t part of the subculture. Gatekeeping is necessary because of crap like this. I’ve been in the goth scene for 26 years and it’s still a thriving subculture, but people like this have nothing to do with it.
The goth subculture predates either of those music genres coming into the popular consciousness. You could make the argument that a big part of goth culture is musical but you can’t narrow it down like that.
The goth subculture doesn't predate goth rock. They are one and the same in origin. It's expanded to include more than just music, sure. But it's absolutely a music based subculture.
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u/Realistic_Slide_3426 18h ago
And black clothes. And the eyeliner or whatever. I don’t know from makeup. And comically pale skin. Looks reasonably goth-y to me. Or at least some kind of scene type thing? Emo? Again, I don’t know from subcultures.