Yes, Americans and much of the world will still consider dating a 16 year old pedophilia. Hell. I wouldn’t even date an 18, 19, or even 20 year old. I’m 25 for reference. If you are not college aged you should not date college aged for several reasons
For you maybe. I dated a 20 year old twice in my life. Once when I was 21 and once when I was 23. Even then the issues I had with their development are strong. The fact of the matter is that even though we are all of age in these scenarios, we are at extremely different points in college, which creates so many differences
Yeah no dip. I literally said that. I also firmly believe they are going to mature into great women one day and I caught them at a time in their life when they need to learn who they are. I haven’t had to worry about that when I talked to women who have finished college. There is no one single “the problem.” It’s easy to try and look for one when you are a stranger online but you don’t know the full story
Just for transparency, most of the developed world finds it creepy, US included. But over half of our states also set the age at 16. It's fucking weird. Hawaii didn't increase it from 14 untill the 00s.
I didn’t though, you just can’t read. I said I don’t even find 18, 19, 20 year olds datable these days due to maturity issues. This is to highlight how weird I think dating young is. If you read that and thought I’m calling dating adults pedophilia, that’s on you and your comprehension skills
Yeah but that’s not what happened here. Assuming unintelligence is a bit ignorant in of itself. You never know what me or whoever is reading this thread has just read.
Yes, Americans and much of the world will still consider dating a 16 year old pedophilia.
That's exactly whats happening here as 16 is not pedophila because 16 year olds have gone through puberty. Reading is important, reading comprehension even more so.
I literally didn’t label it as pedophilia. I simply added that I wouldn’t even go for people in the college range. Who are you to decide if MY preferences are wild
I literally didn’t decide what your preferences should be. Just commenting the social violence associated with age gaps, even small appropriate ones, is wild. Chill my guy.
My bad I didn’t read that like that cause personally I’ve never been labeled a pedo dating in my age range, nor have any of my friends. Even when I dated a girl four years younger. Me not wanting that is based on preference, not fear
Sounds like you're a little afraid. I totally understand, it's the worst label one can get. That's exactly what I'm referring to. The label has become a weapon, and has lost any of it's original meaning. It's pretty scary and sad. Someone who's 25 shouldn’t be terrified to date a 20 year old out of fear of a mis-label. Strange times we live in.
This is one of those weird af subtleties to point out, but pedophilia is by definition before puberty. I think most should consider this example of 16 year old ephebophilia.
Again this is just a nitpick of language I’m not trying to argue it’s at all ok and you’re also totally correct that most americans would (incorrectly) call it pedophilia.
It's very very hard, if not impossible to explain to people the difference between hebephiles ephebefiles and pedofiles without sounding like....a pedofile.
Why would the subcategories even matter. 10, 12, 16, it's a grown men looking at literal kids..
Just imagine... Almost 40 year old man dating a high school sophomore.
I mean sure it's less offensive then a 40 year old dating a 5 year old but still how is a 16 year old emotionally intelligent enough to date a 40 year old man showering them with money, false promises, and un adulterated praise for their CURRENT appearance.
I'm 39 and if I was single my first stop wouldn't be my nearest highschool for a fucking mate.
That's not even what is happening here. The reference to the age of consent being 16 was an
argument people made for a situation from 10 years ago when he was in his 20s and supposedly rented out a Toronto restaurant to go on a date with someone that was 16, Bella Harris. She wasn't even in the country at the time but the rumours already spread. The girl in the above pic is 23.
In Canada, at 16 you can consent to someone within 5 years of your age, and imo it’s meant to protect kids that start dating at like 16 and 17, so when the 17 year old turns 18, the relationship doesn’t become illegal. Not people who are 21 whose type is a teenager that isn’t emotionally mature enough to recognize when they’re being groomed
Cool. The age of consent here in Ireland is 17 (I think anyway). I still think any adult who dates someone under 18 (and even 18-19 would be weird depending on the adult's age) is probably a pedo
Drake is 39. If you had a daughter who was 16, would you be happy with her dating a man more than double her age? He was 23 years old when she was born. Defending this kinda shit makes you look like a pedo.
And someone correct me if I'm wrong (some details of that beef escape me) wasn't it Drake that used A.I. generated audio of Tupac telling Kendrick to go for it.
Not to mention Megan Thee Stallion had already called it out in Hiss like a month before. If you look at the other lines around the Megan's Law one, they're all clearly about Drake. Nicki Minaj just loves all the pedophiles she surrounds herself with and crashed out so it got lost that was clearly about Drake.
I'm not about to argue about reading comprehension with people from a country that can't decide if a killer of three children deserves life in prison or be institutionalized, since most accusations from Kendrick are proven, there are not speculative accusations anymore, I know that and English is my third language you dimwits
Nah weird redditors who obsess over popculture and tabloid gossip have this tendency to infantilize women. This is a grown adult who makes her money creating thirst traps. If she wants to go on a date with another grown man, and knows all the things about him, that's on her.
At some point in time adults have to be considered adults who are making their own decisions.
Drake finally spending time with an adult doesn't change that he's still a creep and clearly a pedo, but a 39 year old going out with a 23 year old is two consenting adults doing whatever the fuck they want.
Shit, if anything, it seems clear to me based on the one video I watched after googling "who the fuck is pinkchyu" that she's the one manipulating him here.
Nah, when she looks that good, that’s just being heterosexual. Though I do think that being interested in a serious relationship rather than just a physical fling would be weird. Not sure what they would have in common beyond being attracted to one another.
Its often weird. People are complicated, and it's not inherently wrong like dating an underage girl.
Sometimes it's just fine. We really don't understand either of their maturity levels to know.
People say, "different life stages" "or different experiences" but those can be true while two consenting adults with a large age gap desire the same things in a relationship and thats what's important.
I mean it’s weird for you but that doesn’t make it true. Just worry about yourself and your own principles lol stop pushing them on everyone else. Would I do it? No but it’s not me to decide if it’s weird or not
Nah certain societal norms exist for a reason, it's really easy for a middle aged person to take advantage of a 20 year old, and that makes romantic involvement weird as fuck.
It’s not about her at all. You’re the weird Redditor thinking any part of my comment was about her and not solely about him. But yeah agreed there are weird Redditors that attribute their own opinions about her (maybe look in a physical mirror).
Was at the beach today and saw this amazingly hot 25ish year old skinny and fit woman with a fat as fuck 70 year old man. Gross? Sure. But she was an adult and seemingly has no shame choosing him (and presumably his money) over a person much nearer her age and general fitness level.
How old are you? If you’re over 25 and you don’t see the vast difference between yourself and those younger than that then you should maybe reexamine yourself. It may be legal but it’s still sketchy as fuck
Milly Bobby Brown unintentionally revealed he tried to groom her (she didnt understand what was happening and exposed him innocently) when she was like 13, so its real that he is a pedophile
But people complaining about dating a 23 yo are just being weird, this at least is ok, the other shit he did is not
Millie Bobbie Brown said Drake was giving her career and relationships advice. He's a former child actor himself so was telling her about industry tips. She has come out multiple times calling out the internet for twisting her words to make it weird.
People just have porn brainrot so interpreted that as him trying to sleep with a child. You cannot fathom a conversation with the opposite gender without a sexual connotation. There is no proof he wanted a relationship with her
If you dont understand how its innapropriate to DM children unrelated to you to talk about relationships, even late at night, theres not much i can do for you right now
If he was at least an upstanding guy i could give you a pass, but if you take his life into account it was clearly problematic
Brains don’t fully develop until 25 on average, first of all.
Also it is not infantilizing to acknowledge that a 23 year old and a 40 year old have vastly different experiences that can and do greatly contribute to an unequal power structure. She isn’t a literal child, she’s just too young for the middle aged man.
Brains don’t fully develop until 25 on average, first of all.
Debunked myth
Also it is not infantilizing to acknowledge that a 23 year old
She's an adult and can make her own decisions on who she wants to have a skit date with. Any other conclusion you make is literally infantilizing. An adult cannot be too young to be with another adult
This is reddit man. Everyone here has a problem with age gaps, ESPECIALLY in consensual relationships cos they feel that a 23 year old cannot possibly make consensual decisions when dating older men and that it HAS to be grooming.
I came to the conclusion most people on reddit are teens and twenty somethings really pissed that older guys can use their position, experience and resources to bang the girls they are into
Not with her I was merely speaking about after the allegations have been well known id even if innocent and not famous would self reflect first if I’m in the wrong and then if I was was famous if the appearance weighs on my career.
She can do whatever she wants so idk how me talking about him and his actions and public image. Never brought her up but thanks for white knighting it to be about defending her lol
It used to be used when a man would defend a woman because she was a woman (even if she was wrong) but now it's used for anyone defending anyone.
I think it's weird to like someone more than a few years older or younger... But it's not creepy or disgusting.
Young people are good looking. That's normal to think that.
However, I feel like past a certain point, they feel like children to me (as a teacher, I taught people 10 years younger than me so that's a HARD cutoff.)
The issue is that the people judging him for "preying on" young women are also infantalising her as if she has no autonomy or cannot say no.
They're both weird... But caring this much about it isn't much better.
Calling this grooming is infantilizing a grown woman.
Something a lot of men like to do. You'll notice when a young woman dates an older man like this, it's almost never other women who have an issue with it.
These men are trying to be white knights and end up sounding like creeps.
Is that word that to this day she is confused by the public’s focus and insistence that there was anything sexual or groomy about them? And that maybe pathetic people make shit up for likes and attention online?
Sorry I can't really understand you with Drake's dick so deep in your mouth.
She said how he texts her and talks to her about school and boys when she was 14. She was talking about it innocently because she was 14.
He is not a family member nor friend of the family and there is absolutely no reason to text a 14 year old child and talk to her about boys. Even if for her it's cute and normal.
He is not dumb he is not gonna have text evidence of him flirting with her but he was definitely probing.
I'm not sure why is it hard to understand in the concept of children CANNOT consent because of this very reason. When I was 14 i would go crazy over a "mature" guy talking to me, let alone a celebrity.
Of course for her it's innocent, she was too young to understand. He seemed nice he tells her he missed her and he talks to her about boys.
To us adults this really feels yucky because why does a grown ass man even talk like that to a child that he isn't related to or have any meaningful relationship to (friend of the family for example).
Yes he didn't say "date me" but you can't listen to her talk about what they text and think that is a very normal interaction.
When people talk about raping a minor, it does not necessarily mean they forced them. That can also be a "consensual" relationship but since underage people can't consent, then the opinion of the child isn't taken into account.
And you can see a nice example of why children can't consent in the video and in the article : because you cannot think a grown adult talking to a 14 year old like this is normal, nor okay and that fact that she thinks it is, does definitely not make it better.
I'm not sure why is it hard to understand in the concept of children CANNOT consent
You've been telling yourself a lot in these comments.
She was a child actor. Drake is a former child actor. He gave her advice on her career and relationships. You've taken that as him trying to sleep with her. Is your porn brainrot that bad? Are you unable to fathom non sexual conversations between 2 parties?
It feels yucky to you because you view women as sexual objects, and thus the notion of Drake actually just being friendly just cannot be a plausible reality.
I hope you get help.
the opinion of the child isn't taken into account.
Til this day she isn't accusing Drake of grooming her. Everyone else is. But let me guess, we still cannot take her account seriously
it feels yucky because you view women as sexual objects.
No it feels yucky because men have been "having conversations" with me since I was 10.
It feels yucky because my English teacher who was "my friend" thrgouout the whole school year grabbed my ass in the end when I was 13 and it took me a whole decade to realize that wasn't just him being silly, because he was "my friend".
It feels yucky because when I was 15 I asked a random old man for directions and he directly started talking about take me out for lunch, only insisting further upon knowing my age. Also thought this was normal for many years.
I have absolutely 0 doubts in mind from the songs I heard from Drake, from what he says, from what Millie said, they that conversation absolutely isn't innocent from Drake's side.
People like you are the reason disgusting men are still in power, keep defending them.
There we go - you have told on yourself. You are projecting your own life to Drake. Drake did not grab her ass. Drake did not ask her on a date. He gave her career and relationships advice. That's it.
Go to therapy instead of automatically assuming every conversation between a male and a female must be with the intention of leading to sex.
Nothing about Drakes music suggests he wants to sleep with little children. That is your head canon because again, due to trauma, you view women solely as sexual objects & that's the only conclusion you can think of. You're also removing autonomy from Millie B herself who has continuously denied anything malicious was behind the messages. She thinks you're the creep lmao
I hope one day you heal instead of falsely accusing people.
Aubrey has always had highly questionable interactions with women who are quite a bit younger than he is, not the mention his seemingly weird inability to whoo women his own age. From calling a 16 yr old fan thick at a show to texting “I miss you” to a (at the time) 14 yr old Millie Bobbie Brown; much like Chris Brown fans his support him regardless and attempt to bring up Kendrick’s infidelity as a counterpoint.
Dude has a son but continues to show is ass publicly and attempt to groom younger women because he lacks any luck with women his own age.
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u/Much-Gur233 15h ago
Yeah, and he was right