r/PeterExplainsTheJoke 3d ago

Meme needing explanation Petah??

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u/Fer4yn 3d ago

Yeah, it's awful how Neville in the movies is reduced to a dumb gag character and then suddenly in the last one he gets the Sword of Griffindor. No foreshadowing at all, nothing; bro just goes from zero to hero within a couple of minutes/hours of the invasion.

u/johnnyanderen 2d ago

Neville is the Chosen One

u/tu-BROOKE-ulosis 2d ago

I mean technically no. He COULD have been the chosen one. But by Voldypants choosing to mark Harry, he essentially chose to make Harry the Chosen One. But it could have easily and equally been Neville up until that point.

u/johnnyanderen 2d ago

I know that it’s really Harry, but Neville got so shafted so I like to say that

u/HolyMustard 2d ago

Being the chosen one doesn’t sound like a prize that you want to win

u/in_conexo 2d ago

Wasn't it kind of that way in the books?

I don't pick up on a lot, so I could easily overlooked stuff; especially when you factor in how fast I read those books.

u/J_DayDay 2d ago

Nah, Neville in the books is a far more 'fleshy' character than movie Neville. His character is actually pretty complex, and serves as a foil for Harry. Neville IS Harry, in a slightly different time line where slightly different decisions were made.

u/Cold5512 2d ago

It's been a while since I've read the books or watch the movies, maybe a decade.

Wasn't book Neville a underdog with varying levels of confidence while movie Neville is a punching bag that has his moments?

u/LoudCommentor 2d ago

My impression was that Harry is 'innate courage' and Neville is 'courage despite fear'. Harry is 'quintessential Gryffindor' - he is just courageous in and of himself. He is not afraid and he can't help but stand up for what is right. 

Whereas Neville appears to be a bad fit for Gryffindor because he is anxious and cowardly, but proves himself to actually be of great courage. Even greater courage than Harry perhaps, because he faces up to his fears and stands strong by his friends and values. Hence why he gets Gryffindor's sword. 

u/Corrosivecoral 2d ago

Harry is much more reckless or arrogant courage, Im re-reading the book to my daughters and he does so many dumb and reckless things that work out.

Neville has more of a desperate courage in the begining, he starts off incompetant, but wants to do the right thing reguardless of his abilities, he slowly gets better at things and becomes very motivated when Voldimort returns and shows flashes of ability as he gets older. Then by the 7th book hes a competant wizard and leader who has great moral character and boldness as well.