Learning Japanese

[u/BaldHourGlass667]

[u/Strange_Ad_9658]

I remember a youtuber telling a story of ordering a milk tea in japan by translating both words, only to have the server correct them by going “oh, miruku tea”

[u/NewRootsLol → u/Strange_Ad_9658]

LOL it was the same with me when I came to the country, wanted to practice my Japanese, and was asked if I wanted milk and sugar in my coffee but I didn't know how to say "Black coffee" in Japanese and said:

"Umm, no sugar and milk, please"

"ああ、ブラックコーヒー" (burakku koohii)

[u/Dizzzzza → u/NewRootsLol]

Japanese word for "work" goes like "arubaito". When I learned it I was wondering, when did they borrowed words from German? Nvm...

[u/emachel → u/Dizzzzza]

Isn't it "shigoto"?

[u/slvl → u/emachel]

Shigoto is a full-time job, arubaito or baito is a temporary or part-time job.

[u/brazzy42 → u/slvl]

Which funnily, in German would more likely be called "Job" rather than "Arbeit".

[u/Stormfly → u/brazzy42]

Like how the common Korean for heterochromia is 오드아이 ("odd eye").

Or how one version of "throw up" is 오바이트 ("over eat").

Makes for a few funny moments when they correctly reverse engineer the original English phrase only to learn that's not what we say.

[u/DisplacedLondoner → u/emachel]

It is, but アルバイト arubaito is more like a part time job specifically. Pretty sure it does come from German!

[u/Flaydowsk → u/DisplacedLondoner]

Came from the Dutch when they were trading with the Japanese during the isolation period.

[u/exploding_cat_wizard → u/Flaydowsk]

I don't speak Dutch, but translate gives me "werk" as Dutch for "Arbeit"/"work".

Of course, that may not be the complete vocabulary, or it's language drift...

[u/GunsNBakon → u/exploding_cat_wizard]

It's a little more of a formal term I suppose.

"to do work" can be translated as "het verrichten van arbeid", workers are also called arbeiders.

[u/plug-and-pause → u/Flaydowsk]

Came from the Dutch when they were trading with the Japanese during the isolation period.

Wrong on both counts. It was from German as stated above (not sure why you're disagreeing with that, it's an extremely well known fact) and it happened later than you're suggesting, during the Meiji period, as stated below:

https://blog.surapera.com/en/part-time-job-in-japan/#:~:text=It%20is%20said%20that%20the%20term%20%E2%80%9CArubaito%E2%80%9D,place%20to%20work)%E2%80%9D%2C%20is%20abbreviated%20to%20%E2%80%9CBa%2Dsaki%E2%80%9D.

[u/I_blockkarmafarmers → u/DisplacedLondoner]

Oh. Oh my. I just made that connection for the first time. Arbeit=アルバイト(arubaito)

[u/mybeepoyaw → u/emachel]

arubaito is part time work specifically.

[u/vicarofsorrows → u/mybeepoyaw]

But they also say パート. Depends on the situation.

[u/chetlin → u/Dizzzzza]

One of my favorite ones is their word for questionnaire, which is a French loanword in English, is ankēto, from enquête, a different French loanword. (Many eastern European languages also used a word derived from enquête)