been doing a ton of tinkering in mid-highish elo (currently hovering around em 2 at the moment with a pretty impressive ~70% wr on kayn using this niche build) and have been really enjoying it.

every game i start at drag or baron pit (wherever their jungler’s red buff is), q over and ward the red bush, and either outsmite them if they’re on it or invade their topside while leaving raps alone. i’ve been finding junglers starting raps more and more often, which lets you skirmish them lvl 2, and you should usually win because kayn lvl 2 is surprisingly strong if you start q and e. with ignite you win most 1v1s excluding obvious ones like nocturne, warwick, etc.

if you’re not interested in cheesing then taking flash is totally fine. ignite is probably the least important part of the build, but i find it has netted me so many kills early game due to people underestimating my early game dps. i’d say ignite + smite is much better on blue than red though. ghost is also a decent pick on red, or even exhaust. but alas, flash is still the most op summoner spell in the game, so do what you will.

anyways, that strat aside, this rune page i love because you can go either form pretty comfortably (although it definitely suits rhaast better since axiom arcanist on blue kayn is just okay), but it saves you from the tempo issue of getting the wrong form, which is a pretty big problem in higher elos where getting form takes way longer due to better vision control.

i find stormraider’s super good to compensate for the lack of flash. on rhaast it gives you INSANE sticking power, like ridiculous. you can literally catch up to an ezreal with it, and you have no issues proccing the 25% either (its super valuable in teamfights if you are going for multkills as well). on blue kayn it lets you full combo and pop a squishy, then zoom out insanely fast. i also find that in early game, when i’m near death, i can ult someone, proc stormraider’s, and run away really easily.

i know you lose a bit of damage, but mobility is so fucking op. the movement speed lets you dodge damage, weave autos, position qs and ws, and hit things you’d never normally be able to. which more than makes up for the dark harvest proc or 30 ad you get from fully stacked conq (conq is so bait i swear to god) i’d say this rune is insane on rhaast, albeit a little more gimmicky on blue, but still great nonetheless.

my blue kayn build is usually voltaic edge and bastionbreaker for huge snowball potential. i find hubris is trash in higher mmr because you rarely ever get to keep the stacks since people play way safer - i also usually forgo t2 boots on blue kayn cause they all kind of suck and you have enough ms in the jungle anyway. for red you can honestly go whatever as long as deaths dance is built second (dd is super op when bought early)

anyways, let me know what yall think. i also love this rune on aatrox and skarner jungle.

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hey hey people , im a long main kayn and i loved when i could pick aery for double orb back in time

now i have to do separate runepage for both forms , is there a way to like, make one for both forms ?

shoul i go conqueror or dark harvest ? ( i heard purple kayn is conqueror , but saw lot of people playing rhaast with DH)

what do you think ?

incase you missed him the first time

So I’ve been doing some digging and looking around to find builds for this champ and it seems we can’t all agree on builds. Sitting in low emerald right now so at the end of the day I imagine it can’t matter that much vs actual gameplay for me. But it is just another thing on the notch

My biggest question is what yall here on Reddit think of the… we’ll call it “bruiser” red Kayn build with eclipse and cleaver core.
I hardly find anyone online building this. Modt streamers I see just go lethality cyclo sword, axiom, LDR

Similarly I see lots of other assassins building bastionbreaker post buff. Seemed like a few OTPs liked this but dropped it.

I see a lot of fleet footwork debate vs conquerer

My sister is a Kayn main and she had birthday recently, so I drew this picture for her as a gift <3

I fear i left Kayn mains and went on a dark journey through mid lane, and while it was enjoyable, the champs just dont feel the same as Kayn does.
And so I return, as Karasmai predicted I would, few things about the champ just frustrated me, so I need advice on thins while I slowly return
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I struggle keeping high cs on red kayn, and thus often lose my lead and all tempo I may have had built up if a gank fails, blue just clears so fast and is able to gank seemingly seconds later
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Wukong, Graves, post 6 Shyvana, and Yi are some of my worst matchups, I'm in gold 3 currently so Yi is my perma ban, graves and wukong arent picked enough down here for me to consider banning yet, but if any advice on said matchups could be provided, I would greatly appreciate it
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Lethality red? Bruiser red? Bruiser blue? Lethality blue? I often feel stuck knowing what to build or what form to take, and thus burn a lot of time thinking in fountain, looking through items because the enemy team has 3 super squishies, but a very fed top id have to sustain against, and a jungler that completely counters blue kayn, and sometimes the ladder, maybe 3 tanky people, but a very fed adc and squishy jungler
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thank you for any advice provided. I'm glad to be back

Opinion on champ: FUNNN I like going across the map with E and red kayn feels like I can just 1v5 good carry champ and really easy unless ur blue going against tanks.

I'm interested in playing this champion, but I'm also considering a few other assassins, and I'd like some genuine answers from people who actually main them.

Putting aside the lore, character design, fantasy, etc., what is the actual gameplay appeal of this champion?

What does this champion give you that makes you want to keep playing them instead of another assassin?

For someone deciding between several assassins, what would you say is the main gameplay reason to pick this one? Is it their ability to control the tempo of a game, find creative angles, snowball leads, outplay people, roam, dive, isolate targets, or something else?

Basically, what is the thing about this champion's gameplay that makes you look forward to locking them in?

I'm specifically interested in answers from people who have actually put a lot of games into the champion. I'm not really looking for "the fantasy is cool" or "their design is sick." I want to know what makes the gameplay itself worth playing.

It took nearly 500 games (I’m a no life BUT to be fair, I don’t really play any other video games) and tons of lurking in here to find new buildpaths and runes. In prior seasons I was always too nervous to try any builds that were less popular, but I’ve been having fun with new runes and itemizations!! I really like Kayn this season, fleet voltaic is the most fun I’ve had with him since goredrinker 🪦 I even ran ignite over flash for a period of time and had tons of fun with it, though I still think abt goredrinker daily ☹️

Heres my OP.GG, there’s nothing super interesting there except my embarrassing number of games:

https://op.gg/lol/summoners/na/Slimebob04-6969

Finally reached Master after so many seasons playing almost only Kayn (if he is banned or picked I play something else lol).

Fleet + Voltaic is goated combo everyone who is struggling should try it.

I really loved to play red kayn, especially when goredrinker was still in game, but now playing him feels like shit. His healing is good, but he feels to slow to play, obviously he should be slower than blue kayn, but not as horrible as it is now.

Building bruiser on him feels even worse, as the damage is often times lacking to get your target killed when using everything you have. Only solution I found is getting fed early to make up the damage with raw stats, but you shouldn't rely on a champ to be fed inorder to be useful.

Against squishy ranged champs kayn feels to slow and requires the other player to make a mistake to even reach them. Against other bruiser you just lose due to lack of damage/healing, like you can't fight a zaahen, aatrox, jax or darius without losing

Also I think the ult is often times not as useful on red kayn as it is on blue kayn. Ulting on red kayn feels more like a red emergency button. Fighting as a bruiser requires you to either get close or use cc to get close, but using W to then ult on a target inorder to get close to it feels like so much value lost, because with the right build you heal 60% just with one ult. Using it to get close feels like a waste. Also waiting in the ult has a purpose on blue kayn as you often times lack ability haste on him and you also get pressure because you're likely to kill your target on blue kayn if you get with all of your abilities out. But on red kayn you often times lack the damage to be a threat if youre not fed and end up being cc'ed(or dead) after using all of your abilities and not killing your target.

The only saving grace is deaths dance which increases your sustain by alot and allows for longer fights.

But often times you dont get deaths dance until your 3rd or 4th item, because you will probably build eclipse into black cleaver because why else would you go red kayn if not into a very tanky/bruiser heavy team. And until you have deaths dance game is often nearing towards end.

My solution would be to give red kayn a different ult from blue kayn, something like zaahens ults, which allows for longer fights, because the untargetability of kayns ult also comes with you not able to attack the opponent which is useless on a bruiser, because you want outheal and outdamage the opponent. The opponent on the other hand can still provide value during it by attacking your backline, giving themselves a shield to mitigate the damage or heal up with abilities and lifesteal on nearby enemies.

For red Kayn I pretty much always go Voltaic > Black Cleaver > Death's Dance. But after that point I completely don't know what items to buy. I understand it really becomes situational after but I feel like there are so many good options out there.

Steraks and Maw both give a shield but if I needed MR that game I feel like I would've just taken Mercs. And then last item I truly have no idea. Shojin? Endless Hunger?

What do you build after the core 3?

Was on Karasmais stream a couple of days ago and Dantes calm told Karasmai to run the item as he claims it is extremely broken. Has anyone tried it yet on Rhaast or is it just pure bs?

Find myself often getting and early lead or just in general getting a lot of kills, but I never seem to be able to carry the game or end the game, which is really frustruating, since sometimes when the enemy is behind will sudenly start getting picks and slowly start making a comeback and eventually we lose. Which is soo frustriating, since I dont know what to do.

in this game I was 7/1 at one point but didnt know what to do, to progress the game, other than trying to get drakes/baron. Which eventually just caused us to lose.

Also please dont say that it was my team, even if you think it was, since that doesnt really help move me pogress.

Hi been sitting in diamond for a while peak master a few season ago. Been struggling with kayn for a while since he lost his late game carry potential. I usually just full clear with kayn and gank whenever I see an oppurtunity or whenever there free jg time, but been struggling to really see myself carry in a lot of games or have an insane impact. Usually I get out ganked and team is too behind before i come online or I come online do decent for a few minutes then fall off when top and adc start to outscale. I guess I am wondering if any high elo kayns have seen a shift in strat that I am not seeing, possibly doing a enemy raptor start and cheesing them?

I JUST WANT TO MAKE MY BEAUTIFUL BOY WORK IN RANK AGAIN