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u/dekuweku 7d ago
My pet peeve with cyclists.
No licensing, wanting to be both a pedestrian and a vehicle whichever it suits them.
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u/Artemis_SpawnOfZeus 6d ago edited 6d ago
Honestly this feels a bit systemic. Like, theres no signage for the cyclists, just the painted lines?
Theres no bollards by the crosswalk to visually seperate street crossing pedestrians from loiterers?
The bus stop canopy partially blocks the view for approaching cyclists in one direction.
Personally, i watch the video and it takes me a second to even visually identify the pedestrian. Its a high traffic lane. Bikers are more concerned watching the bikers around them then scanning for stuff like this. You need something to break up the visual field.
This isnt a crosswalk on a corner where traffic is being disrupted. I can totally see myself biking through that keeping my eyes on the guy in front of me and totally missing that the crosswalk even existed.
Also, some of the videos seem a little deliberate. Theres traffic in the far lane and theyre standing as far back as you could stand to signal you were crossing. Like, its pretty common for pedestrians to start to cross into the free lane and the approaching cyclists will then notice you as you start to occupy space in the road.
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u/DepletedPromethium 5d ago
The highway code states pedestrians have right of way.
Trying to side with the cyclists who are ignorant of the highway code is terrible. There is no need for bollards as there are no cars present, if the cyclists cant see obviously big blocky white lines then they need their eyes tested.
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u/GlitteringSalad6413 4d ago
Also a confusion regarding different rules and cultures surrounding this. No place in the usa really experiences this kind of bike traffic, and if they DID, they would immediately notice that the pedestrian always having the right of way breaks down as a rule. A signal or flashing light would be best here. All those bikes are actually doing the city a lot of good by cutting down on road traffic and easing demand for public transportation, and with this much bike and pedestrian traffic combined it needs to be handled completely differently. Judging the cyclists by American right-of-way laws is just ignorant though.
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u/Curious_Contest_3767 7d ago
Same people that yell at drivers saying that bicycles are also vehicles and they're allowed to be on the road.
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u/Low-Car-6331 7d ago
BiCyClIsTs WoN't KiLl ThE pEdEsTrIaNs WhEn ThEy CoLlIdE!
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u/ukemike1 5d ago
So unless there is the likelihood of death then you can ignore traffic laws? That is a deplorable attitude.
A bike collision can absolutely hospitalize a pedestrian. Knock someone down and you can absolutely cause a fatal brain injury.
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u/OVectorX 7d ago
They can break their bones and set them disabled life time tho
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u/o7_HiBye_o7 7d ago
And could kill them. Sure, nit at the same rate- but a fist fight can kill. A slip and fall can kill.
I'm all for bikes doing their thing, but it is INSANE the amount of laws they break just in one trip from A to B.
Stop signs, street lights, crosswalks are completely ignored by most of the ones I see while working. They will just zip through an intersection like they are immune to death themselves.
BE SAFE PEOPLE.
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u/Adam_Sackler 5d ago
And these are the same people that would ignore pedestrians while driving. As a cyclist, I always have to wait for a few cars to go past before one actually stops. (A cycle path with a crossing)
Cyclists shit on drivers, drivers shit on cyclists. Rude people are going to be rude. The vehicle they choose isn't going to change anything.
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u/ThomasJamesRidgewell 7d ago
Yanks in the chat talking about "bad design" and the need for more signage. This is the UK and the rules regarding zebra crossings here are drilled into all road users and (fittingly) black and white. If someone is crossing, waiting at, or even APPROACHING one of these bad boys, you stop. The mob mentality cyclists are absolutely at fault here.
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u/RollerDude347 6d ago
Ah, see, this explains it. I was looking at this like, "why would they stop though?" You're the first comment to explain that this is a standard road rule to me. I for instance, would be a very confused tourist is someone stopped to let me cross here.
I do still think it's a bad design. If these are tourists they'd have no reason to think they should stop.
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u/Euphoric-Sun5317 6d ago
it's also the law in the us lmao. Where do you live that you don't stop at crosswalks?
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u/Orgy_nizer 4d ago
Exactly this. So many people misunderstand what the law actually says. People think that it's like the UK, where you have to stop if there's anyone even approaching a crosswalk, but in the US, what the law ACTUALLY says is that vehicles must stop for pedestriansalready crossing, but pedestrians are not allowed to start crossing until there is an opening in traffic.
If you're standing on the sidewalk and there is traffic coming, you have to wait. Then once you've entered the crosswalk, THEN traffic has to wait for you.
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u/DuhRJames 7d ago
Lots of cyclists failed to adhere to the rules, however, in this case I'd say it's more on the city for poorly designing this crosswalk. There's obviously lots of bicycle traffic, yet this crosswalk has no signs or lights.
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u/Maximum_Boros 7d ago
The bad design doesn't do anything to mitigate that every single one of these cyclists is a piece of shit who should be ticketed and not allowed to ride.
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u/Ok_Water_4601 7d ago
This is the correct answer.
This is poor engineering and urban planning.
Give the bikes some rubble strips and that will force them to slow down.
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u/Copious-Spirit 7d ago
Needs a flashing light pedestrians can activate.
Just like motorists: the cyclists are focused on their vector with tunnel vision; seemingly oblivious to anything else, or they're just following the leader and not making their own decisions.
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u/MajesticDisaster3977 7d ago
Why is spending additional tax-payer money for blinking lights the only answer here?
There are marked and unmarked cross walks all over the place that don't have high-vis flashers or other assistance devices that need to be treated with respect.Some bog-standard cross-walk signs are all you need here. They don't need to blink. They just need to exist, because there doesn't seem to be any other landmark except for the paint on the ground (which can be hard to miss at speed with other cyclists in front).
If this were at a street-corner, I wouldn't even suggest the sign, as those typically indicate a cross-walk anyway. It's expected.If you make drivers/cyclists expect blinky lights at a cross-walk, they turn their brains off if the lights aren't blinking, or when they come across other cross-walks.
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u/BruinBound22 7d ago edited 7d ago
Yeah exactly there isn't good design so let's all ignore the crosswalk!
It's extra funny because you hate cars for bullying cyclists when it's the exact same scenario as this.
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u/TheHylianProphet 7d ago
I don't know where this is, but everywhere I've been, a crosswalk is accompanied by stop lights, stop signs, something to give pedestrians the opportunity to cross, rather than just trust that traffic will even notice them waiting. This just seems like poor design to me.
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u/acryliq 6d ago
I understand why a lot of people donât, but I just walk straight onto crossings in situations like this whether itâs bikes or cars. They know fine well that theyâre supposed to stop and they can see you from far enough away to know that youâre going to cross. They always stop when they realise youâre not going to. If they look like they are going to try and blow straight through, eye contact is usually enough to tell them it isnât going to happen.
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u/Nervous-Potato-1464 5d ago
I do the same thing. I've had to jump backwards a few times, but overall it works as most people do see you and just don't want to stop.
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u/Gwanosh 6d ago
turns out it's not the cars that make people behave like assholes, they just give them a bigger degree of feeling invulnerable (and more reduced visibility of what's in front of them). just look at reasonably tight walking paths and see how many people behave like they're the only ones walking it
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u/BumBimBam00 5d ago
90% of bicyclists aren't aware about the fact they're driving something and the most of the road rules are the same for them as for cars. But the thing that it's hard to understand is how the fck can't they understand such a simple thing?!?
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u/justerre 5d ago
Pretty good experiment to show that ânot allâ means about 93% of city cyclists are c*nts if this is anything to go by.
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u/Party_Belt_3789 4d ago
The real blame is the infrastructure. You need pedestrian lights here if there is that much traffic just like you would for a busy street with cars.....
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u/ComplaintTop2008 7d ago
This never happens and most cyclists follow the rules of the road.
Or so I'm told. Constantly.
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u/UncommonYogurt 5d ago
As a cyclist, 90%+ of them are assholes or just really dumb. I'm amazed every time I go out on a ride. Cyclists don't comprehend physics, rules and right of way. They just go straight with the narrowest field of view
Most of the time I'm the only one who breaks and looks on both sodes before crossing the road or giving way to pedestrians. Other cyclists just pass me with annoyed faces
And when accidents happen, they look really puzzled and can't understand the reasons why it happened
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u/Hefty_Loss5180 7d ago
What happened to fucking waiting until the way is clear, giving you enough time to cross? They arenât obligated to stop if there isnât a sign or a light telling them to stop.
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u/clutzyninja 7d ago
Most places I've been, you're always obligated to stop at a pedestrian crossing if there isn't a light
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u/koknesis 7d ago
What country are you from? In most of the world marked pedestrian crossings unequivocally give pedestrians the right of way by law. Traffic is supposed to stop and give way as soon as the pedestrian is couple steps from the crossing.
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u/MasterMind_Blue 7d ago
Where is this ?Â
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u/No-Mix7970 7d ago
Iâm thinking London. Or maybe some other city in the UK.
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u/MasterMind_Blue 7d ago
I was leaning more towards Amsterdam or somewhere in the Netherlands đłđąÂ
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u/weasel_mullet 7d ago
You'd catch me out there for hours just crossing that crosswalk and checking every piece of shit biker that tried to jam past me. This is why nobody likes you bicyclers!!! Get your people in check!
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u/imthenewguy12345 7d ago
Should be a button the pedestrian can push that will open a small chasm that goes straight to hell
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u/MajorDan913 7d ago
On the one hand, this is amazing to see so many people utilizing bikes as transportation. On the flip side, there are also a lot of e-vehicles speeding past the pedestrians. If this was in the USA (obviously not from the excessive reliance on environmental friendly transportation as well as lack of obesity) many of these cyclists would be riding horizontally after a few determined pedestrians decide to cross.
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u/dompipeinmi 7d ago
Should be a bar on each side of the crosswalk that comes up. That would put an end to their shit.
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u/Ok_Difference1781 7d ago
No surprise that the old white guy had no one stop while everyone stopped for the black woman!
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u/Milefulness 7d ago edited 3d ago
Here in the Netherlands you just start walking and the bikes will reduce speed or swerve around you.
The problem is that coming to a full stop on a bike sucks, so the etiquette is to avoid that at all cost.
The law of having to come to a full stop at a crossing is a leftover from car laws.
That said, e-bikes have ruined everything and it's now much more dangerous because the e-bikes are faster than the riders' brains.
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u/Ancient-Emu-8293 7d ago
How dare you?! Cyclists are flawless angels and an endangered species!
Edit: Clearly the infrastructure is at fault here. /s
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u/watchwatertilitboils 7d ago
Would it be illegal to put a stick in their spokes as they rode by you without stopping?
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u/GoodMerlinpeen 7d ago
https://giphy.com/gifs/2c3E1JNkOJ2Ba
Where is our protagonist when we need him most?
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u/BeautifulBand4831 7d ago
It's why I truly hate bikers . They want to bike on the street but not adhere to any of the traffic laws / signs .
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u/ILuvYou_YouAreSoGood 7d ago
This makes me happy my country is deadly dangerous for bicycles in so many places.
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u/HoneyImpossible2371 7d ago
This is why civilized places have stop light for both bicyclists and pedestrians. Why only for cars? America is unique in treating bicyclist and pedestrians as afterthoughts.
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u/Easy-Barnacle5734 7d ago
Some flashing yellow beacons that are triggered by buttons would be useful here.
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u/bakerz-dozen 7d ago
My city has cyclists die every single week by being hit by cars. Itâs of course sad, but as someone whoâs never gotten in an accident, not even a ticket, Iâve almost hit many cyclists because they think stop signs at a 4 way stop donât apply to them, even if another car is already driving through. Especially on the rentable bikes, people are essentially asking to get hit by cars.
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u/grim1952 7d ago
I went to Amsterdam a few years ago and hate the cyclists, they don't give a shit about anyone, they think they're kings of the road.
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u/Tiktokbadsupport 7d ago
i just walk if someone hits me they are sure gonna pay many damages and spend some time with policeÂ
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u/SinginGidget 6d ago
It's interesting how in most cases all it took was one person stopping for others to do it too. But until that one person stopped, no one was.
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u/Terrible-Charity 6d ago
In Amsterdam, you make eye contact with the bikers on their bike highway, you go, and if they don't stop or swerve you give them a good kick or push and cuss them out /s
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u/torpedoseal 6d ago
This is just cyclists being cyclists. In their own minds, Itâs all about them and fuck everyone else
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u/DimensioT 6d ago
I confused a pedestrian by stopping for her at a crosswalk. I informed her that I was legally required to yield to her, despite the behavior of other cyclists.
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u/Puzzleheaded_Joke_75 6d ago
herd phenomenon, if the guy in front doesnt stop, no one stops, cars do the same when I'm on foot and have priority, if the first one goes, everyone goes.
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u/Star_Citizen_Roebuck 6d ago
Cycling is just SOOOO appealing, until they realize they need to stop and pedal back up to speed again. . .
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u/RuthlessIndecision 6d ago
I was surprised when I was in the Golden Gate park, cars bikes, everyone stopped for pedestrians because of those lines, didn't even know if there were signs at all, everyone just stopped!
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u/KrazyKryminal 6d ago
Oh cyclists love to bitch about cars not yeilding or sharing the road, but i very seldom see cyclists obeying all traffic laws themselves. Especially not stopping at lights/signs and crossing crosswalk on a red.
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u/RossNReddit 6d ago
lmao, the US defaultism in the comments is as infuriating as the bikers who weren't stopping.
"HURRR BUT THERE'S NO STOP SIGN, THEY HAVE NO REASON TO STOP"
Yeah maybe that's because it's in London. In the UK, people must stop and allow pedestrians to cross at zebra crossings.
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u/Dramatic_Corner_8259 6d ago
Everyone in a dammed hurry these days. Slow down and chill the fuck out.
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u/MyldExcitement 6d ago
You can stop, or I can knock you over. It's your choice, bicycles, but pedestrians have the right of way.
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u/ShameMuch 6d ago
i mean how many car drivers do the same thing?
not that i am truly defending this bad behaivor. people stop at cross walks when their is a pedestrian.
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u/ireallylikecycling 6d ago
It's infuriating that pedestrians feel the need for others to stop for them whilst stationary. Look both ways, when it is clear you may cross. If a vehicle approaches when a pedestrian has entered the crosswalk the vehicle must yield.
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u/danielw59 6d ago
Happens all the time in Vancouver. A stop sign means nothing to many cyclists as well.
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u/Need_more_dakka 6d ago
Should have two jousting lances ready on stands on each side of the cross walk. Pick up a lance and see if any cyclists wanna play.
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u/pielekonter 6d ago
This is too busy for just a crosswalk. Traffic lights would be appropriate here.
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u/vector4-20 6d ago
Iâve been honked at in Amsterdam for crossing a crosswalk with a GREEN pedestrian traffic light. That was so baffling to me, running a red light and honking at the people that are totally writhin their right of way
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u/akabillposters 6d ago
The attitude of those cyclists is utterly alien to me. Is it a lack of situational awareness or simply obnoxious disregard? Neither is acceptable.
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u/Ritsu-000 6d ago
If youre on a road as a cyclist and dont have a liscense of any kind for driving any vehicle you should not be on that road. Doesnt matter if youre in a zone or not
There are specialised roads for cyclists specificaly so that even braindead people could use them
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u/Muted-Woodpecker-469 6d ago
And now I suddenly see why nypd is going so heavily on these type of offenders. Such bicyclist entitlement is crazyÂ
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u/kdesi_kdosi 6d ago
its very simple. cyclists dont consider themselves as subject to the system. to them traffic laws are what just car drivers have to deal with
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u/placeyboyUWU 6d ago
Anyone saying this is "bad design" just doesn't know UK road laws
Everyone knows you have to stop. They just aren't
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u/Open-Fall-9485 6d ago
Stupid cyclist đ´ââď¸ the lot of them.. something better needs to happen from the government
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u/Distwalker 6d ago
When I am driving, I hate all bicyclists. When I am on my bicycle, I hate all motorists. It ain't rational but it is true.
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u/IneptAdvisor 6d ago
I cannot relate as their are buttons to press at every crosswalk to turn on big orange strobe lights on both sides of the street. Failure to stop with lights on is a hefty ticket.
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u/fux-reddit4603 6d ago
I've started asking cyclists who don't stop if they think cars should do the same for them
they usually respond in swears
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u/DishwasherLint 5d ago
And then they look at you with the anger of a toddler clenching their fist thinking how dare you apply logic to this situation.
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u/InstructionNice7090 6d ago
Europeans are rude bro, I donât understand how the world thinks they are polite LOL
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u/Desperate_Dot_97 6d ago
If we gotta use stop signs they can wait until it's safe to cross... or get a bike
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u/MonitorEquivalent69 5d ago
What a terrible design. The cyclists are technically wrong, but a crosswalk not at an intersection is something nobody is going to expect.
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u/Either-Lock2454 5d ago
It's like crossing a road in India. You have to feel that flow and cross and hope you don't get hit.
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u/Open_Boysenberry_363 5d ago
While thatâs terrible that so many bicyclists donât recognize crosswalksâŚ. I love seeing so many bicyclists
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u/GoMoriartyOnPlanets 5d ago
Everyone:
Pedestrian > Cyclist > Motorist
Cyclists:
This is a Trek Domane 69, you peasant!!
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u/Aero1000 5d ago
Although this is the UK, itâs frankly ass to drive out of garages in Seattle in some areas because of it. Not faulting the cyclists or overblowing the problem. It gets annoying trying to get out, having the one window where I could but a cyclist decides to go 60mph downslope with no intention to slow down, so I wait, they pass, and now I have to turn accounting for pedestrian traffic, potentially another group of cyclists, and cars going (then blocking me because they themselves got out of that situation and rather not wait another second in Seattleâs horrid traffic).
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u/casusbelli16 5d ago
The sheer indignation of the cyclist that rear ended the one cyclist that did stop.
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u/PolyDiaries 5d ago
clearly bad planning too... they need signs / lights or something
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u/Georgiaboy03 5d ago
Im walking out, falling on the ground soon as im touched. Suing the shit iut of who hit me. Only because its a cyclist.
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u/MDBDXDOG 5d ago
Which Euro country is this, worst i have seen is Netherlands, particularly Amsterdam where the bike riders literally think they have the right of way at all times..
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u/MassDistractor 5d ago
The city could make a mint off this. Just stand by and ticket the bikes that don't stop for a pedestrian. They would hit their ticket quotas within an hour. The police could probably be the one standing there as the pedestrian because no one follows this rule.
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u/QueenAlphabetties 7d ago
Looks like they need the good ol brick