r/UFOs 2d ago

Disclosure New Multi-Subreddit LIVESTREAM AMA — Special Guest Host Thomas Jane with Dean Alioto, Dave Foley and Debra Jordan Kauble — Sunday, September 13, 2026 @ 1:00 PM EST / 10:00 AM PST — Drop your questions here!

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The Anomalous Coalition presents Special Guest Host Thomas Jane with Dean Alioto, Dave Foley and Debra Jordan Kauble here — LIVESTREAM AMA — Sunday, September 13, 2026 @ 1:00 PM EST / 10:00 AM PST

We're excited to announce a new multi-subreddit livestream AMA on the experiencer phenomenon — the people who say non-human intelligence has entered their lives directly.

Actor and director Thomas Jane joins us as special guest host for this event, leading the conversation with filmmaker Dean Alioto, comedian and UFO researcher Dave Foley, and experiencer Debra Jordan Kauble.

🗓️ When: Sunday, September 13, 2026 — 1:00 PM Eastern / 10:00 AM Pacific 📺 Livestream (YouTube): https://www.youtube.com/live/-Rlf6lu8hMg?si=I36-S2pXVQN0qA8d 🐦 X (Twitter): https://x.com/theanomalousc 🎮 Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/theanomalouscoalition

Please note this event falls on a SUNDAY, not our usual Saturday.

🎬 The Documentary — The Experiencers: Full Disclosure

➡️ https://www.experiencersmovie.com/

Eight years. 67 interviews. Five countries. Dean Alioto's award-winning documentary moves past the question of whether contact is real and into the harder one: why. It features Travis Walton, Whitley Strieber, Harvard geneticist Dr. George Church, archival footage of Dr. John E. Mack, and Debra Jordan Kauble — who joins us live on the panel.

How to Participate

To help us organize questions across seven communities we need to gather them in advance:

Please keep it to ONE question per comment. ✅ Want to ask more than one? Make separate comments (one question each). ✅ Upvote the questions you most want asked. ✅ Please review existing questions before posting duplicates. ✅ Make sure questions are on-topic.

Participating subreddits include: r/Aliens, r/Experiencers, r/HighStrangeness, r/InterdimensionalNHI, r/UFOB, r/UFOs, and r/AnomalousCoalition.

Questions posted in the YouTube, X or Twitch chat will not make it into the running order — Reddit only.

We will be providing a written transcript after the event has concluded as well as a summary for the community within a few days. Any feedback or suggestions for process improvement please go to r/AnomalousCoalition

Short Bios

Thomas Jane (Special Guest Host) Actor, director and producer with more than twenty-five years in film and television, and a triple Golden Globe nominee for Hung. Known for The Punisher, The Mist, Deep Blue Sea, Stephen King's 1922, and as a director and star on The Expanse. He also earned critical acclaim playing Mickey Mantle in HBO's 61\*.

He is not a newcomer to this subject. Jane is roughly fifteen years into his own UAP research — he has been turning up at MUFON symposia since 2012, spoke at Contact in the Desert, and has completed a non-fiction book, A Human's Guide to Visiting Aliens, on consciousness, telepathy, and why visitors are so consistently described as humanoid. He traces it back to a childhood sighting of an orange fireball.

Dean Alioto (Director, The Experiencers: Full Disclosure) Award-winning documentarian who has produced specials for A&E, Bravo and Discovery, and consulted on James Fox's The Phenomenon. He created The McPherson Tape (1989), widely credited as the first found-footage film — a decade before The Blair Witch Project — and the Paramount cult classic Alien Abduction: Incident in Lake County. His two-part series The Alien Perspective approached the phenomenon from the visitors' point of view, drawing in Michio Kaku, David Chalmers, Nick Bostrom and Seth Shostak. Film: https://www.experiencersmovie.com/

Dave Foley (Comedian / UFO Researcher) Founding member of The Kids in the Hall and star of NewsRadio and A Bug's Life. He co-hosts the UAP interview podcast REALLY?!. with showrunner and novelist Tom Wheeler, where guests have included George Knapp, Jeremy Corbell, Richard Dolan — and Thomas Jane. He appears in both The Alien Perspective and The Experiencers: Full Disclosure, and covered Contact in the Desert live for Last Podcast on the Left. He describes himself as a non-expert who goes looking for the real ones. Podcast: https://spectrevisionradio.com/really

Debra Jordan Kauble (Experiencer) On June 30, 1983, Debra Jordan Kauble walked into her family's garage outside Indianapolis and encountered something she has spent four decades trying to understand. She describes lasting physical effects afterward, a ring-shaped mark that remained in the yard for nearly five years, and the sudden decline and death of her dog.

Her account became the subject of Budd Hopkins' international bestseller Intruders: The Incredible Visitations at Copley Woods, which CBS adapted as a 1992 miniseries starring Mare Winningham. She appeared in the book under a pseudonym to protect her young sons and revealed her identity in 1992. With her sister Kathy Mitchell she went on to co-write Abducted! The Story of the Intruders Continues, telling it in their own words rather than an investigator's. She is one of the longest-serving voices in the experiencer community and a featured subject in the documentary. Her site: https://www.debshome.com/

Recommended Reading / Context

The Experiencers: Full Disclosure — official site: https://www.experiencersmovie.com/

REALLY?!. with Tom and Dave — Dave Foley's UAP interview podcast: https://spectrevisionradio.com/really

Debra Jordan Kauble's own written account of the June 1983 encounter: https://www.debshome.com/about-me.html

Drop your questions below — and remember: ONE question per comment.


r/UFOs Aug 06 '26

Announcement Rule update: Self-promotion posts now limited to 1 per week

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Hey everyone,

We've made an update to the Rule 4: "No duplicate posts / spam", specifically the section covering commercial content and self-promotion.


Two changes:

1. The weekly limit is dropping from 2 posts to 1. Users approved to share their own content can now post it a maximum of once per week, down from twice.

2. The wording now includes "self-promotion" alongside "commercial". This was always the intent of the rule, but the old wording made it sound like it only covered ads and merchandise. To be clear: sharing your own work counts as self-promotion even if it's free and on-topic. That includes your YouTube channel, podcast, blog, Substack, book, documentary, research site, and so on.

The updated rule text:

No advertisements, fundraisers, merchandise, or other commercial/self-promotional links. Please refer to Reddit's self-promotion guidelines. If you are interested in promoting your own work please contact us before posting. Users approved to post their own commercial or self-promotional content will only be permitted to post a maximum of one (1) such post per week.

How this works in practice:

  • Self-promotion requires mod approval before you post. If you want to share your own work here, send us a modmail first.
  • Once approved, you're limited to one self-promotion post per week.
  • Unapproved self-promotion will be removed.

This doesn't affect sharing other people's content. News articles, footage, interviews, and papers you didn't make yourself are fine as always, subject to the usual rules.

Note: Previously approved users do not need to request approval again. Once a user has been given permission to post this type of content, they may continue doing so without contacting the mod team each time, unless that approval is later withdrawn.


- The r/UFOs mod team


r/UFOs 4h ago

Historical Billy Meier’s Photographs of UFOs, Laser Pistols, Dinosaurs, and More — Switzerland & India, 1964–1981 (Featuring New Photos from Wendelle Stevens’ Archive)

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Eduard Albert “Billy” Meier is a Swiss contactee and UFO photographer who became widely known in the 1970s for his photographs and films of alleged extraterrestrial spacecraft.

Meier says his encounters began in childhood and later involved the Plejaren, a human-like extraterrestrial civilization. His best-known contact was Semjase, a Plejaren woman whom he claimed began meeting with regularly in 1975.

The Meier case grew into one of the largest collections of alleged UFO evidence ever assembled, including hundreds of photographs, films, audio recordings, metal samples, landing traces, eyewitness accounts and thousands of pages of contact reports.

UFO investigator Wendelle Stevens, who spent years investigating the case, called it “the biggest, most spectacular, longest-running, most productive case in the history of the phenomenon.”


r/UFOs 13h ago

Whistleblower Skeptical About Michael Johnson Interview

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Jesse Michels just released an interview with Michael Johnson, a man that alleged ufo witness Mario Woods has been looking for for many years to corroborate his claims.

Michael Johnson’s recall seems very led.

I would have preferred to have seen him interviewed without the story being spoon fed to him.

The way this is presented is sloppy investigative work. He offers zero corroborating testimony without a leading statement or question.

-He doesn’t remember Woods by name initially.
-Says “Are you sure you got the right Michael Johnson?”
-The sodium pentathol statement Jesse leads him into. Strange interaction.
-Mario Woods claims the ufo was 10’ above the blast door - Michael Johnson says it was 50’.
-He seems unsure, plays into Mario’s stories in a strange way and doesn’t make any strong declarations independently.


r/UFOs 21h ago

Disclosure Just released: full video with the second witness to the Mario Woods abduction event. In 1977 Woods and Michael Johnson were guarding nuclear missile silos and saw a gigantic UFO above one. Then the greys appeared. Now 50 years later they are reunited. How much can this second witness corroborate?

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Full video

Posted by Jesse Michels:

Air Force Veterans Abducted By Aliens Reunite 50 Years Later

Jesse Michels: "Imagine you're 23 years old, tasked with guarding a nuclear missile site in the heart of the Cold War. It's midnight, and while on duty, you and your partner witness a giant glowing sphere hovering over a live thermonuclear weapon"

Jesse Michels: "Four strange looking beings glide towards the window of your truck. You're taken aboard a craft, examined with sharp instruments while receiving telepathic messages. And all the while you hear the shouts of your partner somewhere close by"

Jesse Michels: "When you finally come to, five hours have passed. Your partner is frozen to the steering wheel, completely unresponsive. And your park's Beside a reservoir dam more than eight miles away from the missile site"

Jesse Michels: "Bewildered, you're taken back to the base and separately interrogated. Then the Air Force transfers your partner, and you don't see him again for 50 years"

Jesse Michels: "Now you can stop imagining because this is the true story of Air Force security policeman Mario Woods"

Some background info i posted a few weeks ago:

Second witness "Michael Johnson" finally located

See this video on X

They found Michael Johnson !!!! WOW!!! That is fantastic!! Well done AlchemyAmerican. I can’t wait to see this. MarioWoods case is hands down one of our best abduction cases ever, and he always talked about finding MJ. Amazing

Summary of the 1977 event

For those who dont know what happened, here is a short summary (based on my memory so its not perfect):

Summary: In 1977 Mario Woods and Michael Johnson were guarding missile silos at Ellsworth Air Force Base. A perimeter alarm went off, so they got in their truck to investigate. They saw a Walmart sized UFO over a silo. A smaller black orb flew to their car. Johnson was frozen into a catatonic state. Woods saw multiple greys approach their car. He lost consciousness, had a life review, other strange experiences. Hours later their truck was suddenly miles away. Johnson was still paralysed. Woods had only spoken to Johnson briefly a few weeks after the event, but could never find him again. Woods has testified about this under oath to AARO.

Some more details from the event:

Mario Woods saw the "communion" grey

Here is a quote where he describes seeing the communion grey (timestamp 1.26.20):

When he looked at me, he just looked right through me. They looked like greys. Like the small greys, but the one behind them, i guess you'd classify him as a tall grey. On Whitley Striebers book communion, the first time i saw that picture i froze in my stride. And i literally, before i opened the first page, i literally sat and stared at that picture, for many hours, before i ever even read this book.

Life review and apocalyptic dreams

During the event he also had a life review:

As the encounter progressed, Woods experienced a moment of passing out or losing consciousness, during which he had a profound introspective experience. It felt as if he underwent a rapid life review, with memories and thoughts flooding his mind. He mentioned contemplating his entire existence, including the loss of loved ones. This intense experience deeply affected him and left him questioning everything.

Afterwards he started getting apocalyptic dreams (timestamp 1:26:00):

I started immediately having the absolute worst cataclysmic, or apocalyptic dreams that... I can't even describe to you... with earthquakes, atomic blasts, the sun blasting us, the tidal waves... just things that are just totally off the chain.


r/UFOs 10h ago

Historical A UFO mission plain sight - 1948 Project Sign to ATIC to Foreign Technology Division 1961

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"The aerospace symbol on the upper left represents the interest of ATIC in aerospace equipment, manned and unmanned, vehicles, etc."

Was the 1948 sighting and photograph of a boot heal-shaped UFO the inspiration for the Air Technical Intelligence Center emblem created in 1951? The exact same emblem continued in use after a name change to the Foreign Technology Division.

The theme of our emblem symbolizes our mission, "Aerospace Technical Intelligence, Worldwide." The polar projection of the Earth's surface represents the worldwide scope of our activities. The Sphinx is the established symbol of intelligence. The aerospace symbol on the upper left represents the interest of ATIC in aerospace equipment, manned and unmanned, vehicles, etc. The symbol (intersecting orbits) on the upper right represents ATIC's broad interests in scientific and technological disciplines. ~ AIR TECHNICAL INTELLIGENCE CENTER

UFO photo from pages 31-34 in: https://www.war.gov/medialink/ufo/071026/release_04/documents/DOW-UAP-D097_Project-Sign-Progress-Report_1948.pdf


r/UFOs 12h ago

Disclosure "The Evidence Around UAPs Is Getting Harder to Ignore" - XPRIZE Foundation Founder

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MIT engineering grad, Harvard med grad, space entrepreneur, and founder of the XPRIZE Foundation Peter Diamandis says:

"There is evidence mounting, and it has been significant enough that it has captured my attention

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The level of prominent government officials and DoD officials who have come forward disclosing their experiences, at potentially great harm to their own reputation and career, is itself a signal worth paying attention to.

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I am not asking you to believe. I am asking you to look. The evidence is there. The people coming forward are credible. The correlations are statistically significant. The government is preparing. The question is not whether this is real. The question is whether we are ready to take it seriously."

An increasing number of mainstream figures think UAPs are worth looking at. His full statement is here: https://x.com/PeterDiamandis/status/2096980086201225392


r/UFOs 1h ago

Question What do you expect to be revealed in Jay Stratton's book, "Out of the Shadows," scheduled for public release on October 13, 2026?

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I'll admit it: I have been very cynical and closed-minded about UFOs, especially since David Grusch first came out in 2023 and pressured the US government to be more transparent about what he is telling the public, with little to no action taken beyond declassifying new videos. The news media also seems not to have given much a shit about it. Congress appears to have taken little action to investigate or verify any of his explosive claims, which makes me wonder if we'll ever get real transparency.

Since then, I have been quite jaded on this subject and have chosen not to follow it unless something big happens. Jay Stratton appears to be another "whistleblower" in the milieu of David Grusch and will now also be releasing his own book about the alleged truth of this "phenomenon" and why the US government has allegedly been covering it up for the past 80 years. Do you think his upcoming book will shed real light or add to the noise?

Do you really think this book will be groundbreaking and actually pressure the public to push our nation's intelligence agencies to be more transparent and forthcoming, and reveal new, valuable information? Or do you, as I suspect, expect this to be yet another cash grab that reveals nothing that people interested in this topic do not already know? What's your take on the likelihood of real, concrete, and verifiable revelations?

I genuinely just want to know what the fuck is going on and who's been lying this whole time, because I know you're curious about the truth too.


r/UFOs 13h ago

Historical Robert Trujillo(Metallica) Phoenix lights sighting.

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This is from Jack Osbornes podcast. Robert Trujillo is a bass player for Ozzy Osborne, Suicidal Tendencies, Metallica and other bands. Thought this was interesting, mainly because he was in Mammoth Mountain in California. I know people saw the lights outside phoenix. But its just another data point in trajectory. On the full episode its in the last 10 minutes or so of the show.


r/UFOs 14h ago

Disclosure NUFORC Logs its 200,000th UFO Report

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Most of the disclosure conversation right now is about what governments are holding back. That matters, but it's not the only record that exists. For five decades people have been writing down their first-hand accounts of unexplained objects they saw in the sky, and sending them in to NUFORC.  That testimony has always been made available to the public free of charge.   It’s disclosure built from the bottom up, one report at a time.

This August, NUFORC took in its 200,000th sighting report.  Our latest blog post commemorates this milestone, and features 16 recently reported incidents that demonstrate the continuing incredible nature of the phenomenon. Among them: a saucer with lit windows and an open hatch that stopped five feet in front of a witness before accelerating straight up into the stars; a cluster of twenty to thirty metallic spheres shifting direction in unison above a Sierra ridge line like a school of fish; a car-sized object that lit up an entire Minnesota lake; a golden, fountain-like light that held course and speed with a fishing vessel at 2 AM while returning nothing on radar or AIS; and a black triangle that hung silent and motionless 300 feet above a Wisconsin road while the driver stood underneath it.  You can read the full post, with links to every original report, here: https://nuforc.org/nuforc-logs-its-200000th-ufo-report

If you've seen something you can't explain, please send your report to us, so we can preserve it. Every account added to the archive makes the overall picture clearer, and brings us a little closer to a true understanding of what is going on: https://nuforc.org/reportform/


r/UFOs 20h ago

Historical Interesting story about my grandfather

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Take this with as many grains of salt as you like, but, because my grandfather had been a colonel in the USAF, had been in charge of multiple nuclear bases during the Cold War, and had logged the most flying hours, after retiring from the Air Force, of any pilot in California, I felt compelled to ask my mother if her dad had ever shared an experience with a UFO/UAP during his flying career. She told me that he did tell her one thing. He was flying a small jet in Southern California in the 1970s and saw what looked like a dense, round object coming towards him. He said the object was dark until it was close to the plane, when it suddenly became red, like a ball of fire. He assumed he was going to die, and then the ball passed through the plane, harmlessly, like something that was only light. And then it was over, and the thing was gone, and he didn’t report it because it was too bizarre and he assumed anyone he reported the incident to would think he was insane.


r/UFOs 21h ago

Question UFO interiors: Are there any good first-hand descriptions?

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Besides Bob Lazar's account of the sports model, do any credible accounts of UFO interiors come to mind? I made this one for an indie RPG about alien abductions, but I'd like to create some more maps of different UFO interiors. This one includes a lot of the UFO tropes, like an exam room, control room, gravity amplifiers, cattle mutilation, etc. But I think it would be really cool to make a series of maps that are more specific and "accurate" to real encounters.

If you have any suggestions, I'd love to hear them! Thanks!


r/UFOs 55m ago

Question Who Fed Jason Sands to James Fox? Christopher Mellon and Who Else?

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Julian Dorey has now said more than once that Jason Sands was pushed on James Fox by people Fox trusted while he was making "The Program." In his recent conversation with Danny Jones, Dorey put it bluntly: “I knew the people that rammed Jason Sands down James Fox's throat to put him in his documentary...” He then says that some of these same people had brought forward other UFO stories and information in the past that Dorey had previously taken seriously, and that discovering their involvement with Sands made him start questioning those cases too. So who exactly is he talking about? The clues in the public record are pointing to Christopher Mellon.

  1. Dorey previously discussed the situation with Darcy Weir and said that Sands was brought to Fox by people he trusted, adding that one of them may have been Christopher Mellon, who might have vetted Jason Sands. https://youtu.be/8noGdZGEgYs?si=Khxd_6n5OodbgBzH&t=3137
  2. Fox himself has said that before including Sands in the documentary, he consulted people he trusted about Sands' story and was told, essentially, “We think it happened.” When Dorey specifically asked Fox whether Christopher Mellon was one of those people, instead of saying no, Fox declined to name names. https://youtu.be/4-2RnLj_e_8?si=2oPt9gWheKpifaVw&t=3163
  3. We also know Mellon was personally involved around Sands and Fox. Fox has described sitting at dinner in Washington with Christopher Mellon and Jason Sands while Sands told them his alleged 1994 encounter story. https://youtu.be/3yrKVu35uSE?si=eI03ZzrlPsQUsrlf&t=1768

So Mellon seems to be somewhere in this chain. I guess that is accepted in the community(?), but Dorey's repeated use of “people” suggests there were others. Does anyone know of interviews, tweets, podcasts, or other sources where Fox, Sands, Dorey, Mellon, or anyone else has identified any other people who originally vouched for Sands or encouraged Fox to put him in "The Program"? If established figures in the UAP community were privately vouching for Sands strongly enough that Fox trusted their judgment and put him into a major documentary, I think knowing who they were is relevant and it is fair to ask how they vetted him, why they found him credible, and whether the same standards of evidence were applied to other witnesses, videos/ evidence, and claims they have promoted.


r/UFOs 1d ago

Historical Excellent compilation of some classics that have been lost on YouTube over the years. Bravo to whoever made it.

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Uploaded yesterday.


r/UFOs 21h ago

Historical Pelluco, Chile - July 31, 1965

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On July 31, 1965, dozens of residents of Pelluco, Chile, claimed to have witnessed the landing of a large object in a wooded area of the town. The alleged landing site showed signs of missing soil, circular in shape and one meter deep. The case description mentions the arrival, several days after the event, of a U.S. scientific commission, which “preliminarily concluded that the surface exhibited characteristics consistent with a uplift produced by an intense energy field.”

https://www.lavozdelnorte.cl/2026/07/a-61-anos-del-enigma-de-pelluco-el-aterrizaje-ovni-que-marco-la-historia-de-puerto-montt/


r/UFOs 23h ago

Historical In 1987, two kids in a small town in Argentina said they saw strange red humanoids. A week later, people were watching a red light over the same bridges

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In August 1987, 12-year-old Gustavo Núñez and another boy reported seeing two small, red, armless humanoid figures hiding in the vegetation around Arroyo Prati, near an old railway bridge in Viale, Entre Ríos.

The story spread quickly, and people started going to the area: some curious, some hoping to see the creatures, and others just to make fun of the kids. Then, a week later, a strange red light was reportedly seen over the bridges by several people, including police officers. Gustavo himself later recalled that police called him out of his house to see it.

There are also newspaper accounts from the time, as well as a separate account by local researcher Ariel Lemos describing a very similar red light over the same area.

So what actually happened in Viale that week? I dug into the three accounts and tried to reconstruct the episode in our new article for Proyecto Viale Desconocido, an archive documenting unusual cases from this region.


r/UFOs 1h ago

Disclosure The Other Side of the Varginha Case: Everything You Need to Know - Part 1

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The videos below contain material that can be watched with automatic English dubbing. They cover all the problems surrounding the case, particularly its contradictions. The last video is the one I recommend the most. It features the current investigator who allegedly uncovered the supposed hoax behind the case, which was recently presented in a documentary by the country’s largest television network (JOÃO MARCELO INTERVIEW – THE VARGINHA CASE / BEHIND THE SCENES)

To enable dubbing, click the gear icon, then select “Audio Track” and change it to your preferred language.

COUNTERPOINT: WHAT THE GIRLS SAW ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJFqSTxA53Y

COUNTERPOINT: NEW HYPOTHESES ABOUT WHAT EURICO AND ORALINA MAY HAVE SEEN

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYxwdItKMAI

COUNTERPOINT: INTERVIEWS WITH DR. ÍTALO VENTURELLI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Hx2sGWAlrU

COUNTERPOINT: REACTING TO DR. ÍTALO’S INTERVIEW IN THE U.S[]()

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQ-DifSsPf4

VARGINHA DOCUMENTARY – REDE GLOBO – ANALYSIS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c47VIZtwcNU

VARGINHA COUNTERPOINT – WAS A POLICE OFFICER SCRATCHED BY THE VARGINHA ET?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlDpb0JHdlM

JOÃO MARCELO INTERVIEW – THE VARGINHA CASE / BEHIND THE SCENES

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_Y6PDToRHg


r/UFOs 11h ago

Sighting Multiple erratic lights seen over Sonoita, AZ — Jun 13, 2026, 9:00 PM

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r/UFOs 11h ago

NHI Contactees, and the Consciousness Connection On July 28th 2019, I addressed the MUFON International Symposium in Irvine California. I described a remarkable series of sightings my contact team had in a lecture titled, "Human Initiated Contact Experiences and the Consciousness Connection."

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Contactees, Sightings and the Consciousness Connection

 The following material was covered in my lecture. 

Thirty-four years ago, I took a walk on the wild side. I joined a group that had the audacity to go out at night and try to co-create contact experiences with the intelligence associated with the so-called UFO phenomenon. To my surprise and initial delight, we were immediately successful. During our first month of teamwork, we had several sightings while in the field. 

But stranger still was that these “Others that Experiencers now call ET” (TOTENCET) targeted us to have individual sightings under circumstances that were not associated with conducting the prescribed “contact protocols.” One senior member of team reported receiving the following telepathic communication while viewing a large glowing orb flying above her driveway, “You wanted to see us; well, here we are.”

INTRODUCTION

UFO contact teams like those in the CE-5 Initiative, and the Peruvian based group called Rahma facilitate contact experiences with combined programs of psychic/ spiritual training and active fieldwork. These groups emphasize the importance of mental connections between volunteer contact workers and UFO intelligences. 

I organized a contact team in 1992 and for over five years served as a CE-5 Working Group Coordinator.

HIGH STRANGENESS DEFINED

As a contact team coordinator in Los Angeles, I had ample opportunities to observe unusual occurrences. One definition of "High Strangeness" is the inexplicable aspects including the synchronicity of events that occur before, during and after various Close Encounters with flying saucers or presumed ET beings. 

By definition, one cannot fully explain the inexplicable, nevertheless one can endeavor to describe the inexplicable and, in the process, possibly gain insight into the mechanisms of contact.

INITIAL EXPECTATIONS WERE WAY OFF BASE

My initial expectation after becoming CE-5 Working Group Coordinator in 1992 was that UFO sightings would occur as an exclusive function of fieldwork. I anticipated that as my team mastered the contact protocols, we would experience higher and higher levels of contact and that this would occur in a stepwise fashion. 

To my surprise, however, as soon as our Working Group started to carry out field investigations, a few individuals started reporting personal sightings of UFOs. The witnesses to these sightings were members of the team, or as in one instance the physician wife of a CE-5 investigator. In her case, she became very interested in UFOs as the result of a daylight sighting of a metallic disc. She subsequently underwent formal training and joined our team. 

SIGHTINGS NOT DURING FIELDWORK BUT WHILE DRIVING HOME IN THE CAR

These events transpired while the observers were driving home. It is important to note that the first series of sightings happened during the initial month following the workshop in August of 1992 that founded the LA CE-5 Working Group. Just two days after thedemonstration of fieldwork techniques, the first personal sighting occurred.

INDIVIDUAL SIGHTING 1, Sept. 1, 1992

Joseph Burkes MD: while driving home on the 405 Freeway South the Sepulveda Pass at approximately 11:30 PM, I had a sighting of an anomalous nocturnal light. It appeared over the highway as a brilliant blue-green light that silently flew by the witness in a northerly direction. It had a slight oscillating movement. At its closest approach, the light was less than 500 feet away. There was no discernible superstructure associated with the object. This impressed me because of the considerable amount of background illumination from city lights that should have made the shape of any conventional craft visible. 

The sighting occurred immediately after I had carried out a vigorous defense of the CE-5 program to several prominent ufologists. They were rather skeptical of our program of staging human-initiated contact events. 

Individual Sighting 2, September 23, 1992

At 2:30 PM a broad daylight sighting of a metallic disc occurred in Woodland Hills California. Dr. Eve Gordon is married to Dr. David Gordon. We were all partners in the Southern California Permanente Group back in the 1990s. Dave was an original member of our contact team. His wife on the other hand was not that interested in UFOs. In her professional life, Dr. Eve Gordon is a board-certified internist and allergy specialist. She observed a flying saucer in broad daylight hovering two to three miles away over the Santa Monica Mountains. She was driving south towards her home when the event occurred. 

Dr. Eve was accustomed to identifying conventional craft as the result of her husband's status as a private pilot. It was their custom to attend air shows and other aviation related events and as a result she was knowledgeable about various types of conventional aircraft. Eve reported feeling confident that the silently hovering disc, glittering in the bright afternoon sunshine was a” true unknown.” The object was approximately 30 feet in length. The sighting lasted about one minute.

Individual Sighting 3, September 24, 1992 

While driving home at 9:30 PM after attending a two-hour meditation workshop, a 25-feet in diameter metallic globe-like craft was sighted hovering directly above the witness' home in Palos Verdes Peninsula.

Dotha Weybourn was the oldest member of the initial CE-5 contact team in Los Angeles.An experienced sky watcher, she had no doubt that it was not a terrestrial craft. The sighting lasted approximately one minute; at its closest approach the silent object was less that 100 feet from the observer. She described it as being mother of pearl luminescent white. Dotha stated that she received a telepathic message, “You wanted to see us; well, here we are.”

SIGHTINGS ARE CLUES TO DECIPHER A MYSTERY

As the months rolled by after these dramatic sightings, I started to muse over the details of my associates’ personal sightings. I looked for possible hidden meanings within the circumstances of the encounters that might contain messages relating to the on-going contact work. Like a detective in a mystery novel, I kept mulling over the details of the sightings. If those particulars were clues, then I was going to use them to possibly solve the mystery as to what was going on in my contact team visa vie our relationship with “flying saucer intelligence.”  

My hypothesis was that perhaps these consecutive sightings were not random events, that they might in fact be the product of conscious decisions by intelligent and technologically sophisticated extraterrestrial beings that staged the encounters for teaching purposes.

CONVENTIONAL WISDOM DOESN’T APPLY TO ALLEGED ALIENS

I wondered whether the choice of individuals selected for the sightings, or perhaps other details had special significance. Michael Lindemann, a prominent student of non-human intelligence, has cautioned ufologists to never assume that they can think like an alien. In other words, we should not try to impose what passes as human “conventional wisdom” on beings that may have evolved on different star systems. 

Such extraterrestrial civilizations would undoubtedly have entirely different cultures, different value systems, and different social organizations as compared to those of Earth. With such infinite possibilities, perhaps a technologically advanced civilization for purposes unknown to us might choose to communicate via outlandishly subtle means.

AMAZINGLY CONGRUENT CHARACTERISTICS

It should be remembered that approximately 10% of the US population claim to have had a sighting of a UFO. In terms of an individual’s lifetime of experiences however, a sighting is an exceedingly rare event for most people. The fact that these three individuals who knew each other had a sighting within a few weeks should diminish the odds that they were mere coincidences. 

Even less likely to occur by chance is the fact that the circumstances of the sightings were highly congruent. The observers were all driving home and were alone in their vehicles. Even the direction of travel was the same; we were all going south when the encounters took place.

PASSIONATE DEFENSE OF PROACTIVELY SEEKING CONTACT.

In my sighting, I had just left a meeting after engaging in a heated polemic defending our program of human initiated interactions with what I believed at the time was an extraterrestrial intelligence. Present at the meeting was the “old guard” of ufology. Prominent researcher and author Ann Druffel was there. She explained to me that as “ufologists” we should study other people’s sightings to determine if they are “anomalous” i.e., “true unknowns.” 

In no uncertain terms, I labeled her approach “old fashioned.” I stated that the contact network which I would later call “The Contact Underground” had, “opened up a new era in UFO research.” As I left the meeting it was clear that I would never again be invited back to the prestigious “LA UFO Study Group.”

I interpreted my sighting just minutes after leaving the meeting as a show of support, not only for me personally, but also for the larger contact program that I had just defended. The sighting gave me a big personal boost that helped sustain my enthusiasm for our project during the challenging years that followed. Considering the organizational and personal difficulties that face any new contact team, I will gladly testify that team leaders need all the support that they can get.

MEDITATION FACILITATES CONTACT

Concerning Dotha's close encounter with a luminescent globe, she had just left a meditation workshop. Contact protocols employed by contactee groups involve on-site thought projection methods. Usually this involves guided meditation. In preparation for thought projection, individuals in the team are expected to reach an “expanded state of consciousness” through meditation.

Dotha told me that she thought there was an association between her meditating in the class and her subsequent sighting. If the non-human intelligence responsible for the flying saucer phenomenon were attempting to send my team a message concerning the importance of advanced meditation techniques, what better way to do so than to stage a close encounter just moments after a prolonged meditation was carried out by an experienced practitioner.

Thus, two of the three sightings described occurred immediately after the witnesses were involved in activities integral to contact project. 

WHY DID DR. EVE GORDON HAVE A SIGHTING?

The most intriguing aspect of this series was the question why was Eve singled out for a sighting? Although her interest in UFOs soared after seeing the metallic disc, prior to the event her contact with the UFO phenomenon was indirect. It was her husband Dr. Dave Gordon who was the contact activist in the family.

During the autumn months of 1992, our team frequently convened at Eve and David’s house for our business meetings. Meditation is not an easy chore for all researchers; both Dave and I were both having considerable difficulty meditating. We were restless, as many are when one first attempts to still the mind. Dave was not able to follow the recommendation of meditating daily. 

His wife Eve, on the other hand, was far more open to meditation practice. It was not until several months later, in December of 1992 that she was to undergo formal contact network training, and as a result she was officially not part of the Working Group when we first held meetings at her home. 

I was quite perplexed as to why she had been granted a sighting. Dotha and I were active and official members of the team, why was Eve, a non-member, selected for such a dramatic daylight sighting of a metallic disk?

A likely answer came to me one night as we conducted our business meeting at the Gordon’s home. My beeper vibrated and I had to call the hospital. Eve was in the family room practicing on her harp. An accomplished amateur, she often gave recitals. I asked Daniel where I could pick up a phone away from the meeting. Daniel suggested that I make the call in the family room. 

"No," I replied, "I don't want to disturb Eve." 

My colleague reassured me by saying, "Don't worry. She practices at least an hour a day. When she's playing her music, she's in a total trance."

It was then that it hit me! That was the clue that I had been looking for. Eve, although not yet a member of the Working Group, was still able to access consciousness in its most unbounded form while she was practicing the harp. In that relaxed state of being carried away by the divine music that she was creating, a trance like state like deep meditation was achieved. Her meditation equivalent was her music!

It seemed to me this was an important part of the message that I was supposed to learn from her sighting. If my hunch was correct, I was impressed by its subtlety.

Another important aspect is that the sightings escalated in terms of their intensity. The first was mine, just an anomalous nocturnal light. The second, Eve’s, was a broad daylight sighting of a metallic disc. (What UFO fan wouldn’t want that?) The third was Dotha’s. Not only was the 25-foot sphere hovering above her house, but it flew down her driveway to meet her. It was there that she received the poignant message, “You were looking for us. Well, here we are.”  

These personal sightings were clearly linked, not only in time, but also by a variety of other important details, thus indicating that they were not random events. Across the network that I call the “Contact Underground”, similar patterns of sightings and other contact experiences are occurring. In their totality, they confirm that contact groups have entered a special collaborative relationship with the non-human intelligences associated with the flying saucer phenomenon. 

CONCLUSION

I believe that these sightings are part of a much broader range of experiences that attest to the virtuoso psychic technology of what I like to call, This Otherness That Experiencers Now Call ET, (TOTENCET), the so-called aliens. They, who or whatever “they” ultimately turn out to be, were able to track the three of us and choose the times and places of what were clearly staged events.  If “they” could do that with us, perhaps there is no such thing as a “random UFO sighting.” I am suggesting that the millions of people that report UFO sightings are possibly telepathically linked to “this otherness.” For me the implications of this proposition are awe-inspiring for the following reasons. 

The Earth’s population is eight billion currently. If the prevalence rate of a UFO sighting is 10 percent, this suggests that hundreds of millions of people may have an ongoing consciousness link with UFO intelligences by virtue of their having even just one sighting. Understandably, such individuals often have an increased interest in the subject of flying saucers.  Under the right circumstances, for example if they had additional sightings or were in an area where a UFO wave had occurred, they then might join the growing number of people who are proactively seeking interactions with UFO intelligence.  As one that has promoted human initiated contact events for three decades, I find this possibility very encouraging. 

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Name Deleted: Thank you for this article -- it is very clear and articulate. One question does come to mind, which concerns other experiencers who may not be as "high-functioning" as the group you were part of. I'm referring to people who have had NHI (non-human intelligence) contact for many years, often since childhood. For many, being an experiencer is a debilitating ordeal.

I do understand that you've had enlightening and fascinating experiences with the NHI, but what of other experiencers? Are you familiar with them, and what do you make of the dramatic difference in the nature of contact?

Joseph Burkes MD: Thank you for the question. I am aware of the challenges that many contactees experience because they have been traumatized doubly so. First by the high strangeness aspect of contact triggering what has been called ontological shock. Then, when such experiencers try to share the shocking aspects of contact with family, friends, and the larger society they are again injured by a massive wave of ridicule and denial. 

It is clear to me that UFO intelligences work with a wide spectrum of people, many are contacted at sub & unconscious levels. This permits them to live their lives, have a career, supportive family life and would be characterized by the term you used, "high functioning." When the time is "right" as determined by UFO INTEL, they are "activated." Suddenly they develop a tremendous interest in this subject. I am convinced, but in no way can I prove that every member of my team had a pre-existing sub/unconscious relationship with flying saucer intelligences and that their memories of prior contact events were suppressed. I believed this proposed mechanism probably applies to me.

The implications of this analysis are colossal. We are seeing the creation of a major shift in societal paradigms being driven in part by advanced non-human intelligences that have awesome physical and mental capabilities. I discuss this further in upcoming blogs. Again, thanks for the question. 


r/UFOs 10h ago

Sighting Black triangle moved straight and steady over Edmonton, AB — Sep 2, 2000, 10:00 PM

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Time: September 2, 2000, 10:00 PM MDT
Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada, Edmonton, Canada

Detail Reported
Objects 1
Shape triangle
Closest distance within a football field
Apparent size (arm's length) grapefruit
Movement straight and steady
Observer facing SE
Duration 3 seconds
Witnesses 1

Features / five observables

Observation Reporter's answer
Wings Unsure
Rotors No
Exhaust plume No
Noise No
   
Sudden, extreme acceleration No
Extreme speed with no signatures No
Hard to observe clearly No
Moved between air, water, or space No
Flight without visible means of lift Yes

Why not a common object
Mostly because it made no sound whatsoever and had no visible flaps or other flight surfaces.

Witness's account of the sighting

Always wanted to ask about this, so finally decided to do so. This was about 25 years ago, but still remember it well. I was visiting my sis, and was sitting in their backyard. This was in North east Edmonton. It was maybe between 10pm-midnight, as it was dark outside. The sky was mostly clear. Just little light clouds here and there. Weather was good. I was sitting outside just staring up at the stars when I saw something moving by one of the little clouds. It was only visible for no more than a few seconds. It was triangular, with the shape of a B2 stealth bomber. So wider than it was long. Like a dorito, but short and wide. It was a straight trailing edge, not the 'serrated' end like a B2. It appeared that ends of the body were rounded, as well as the 'wing tips' Not angular like the B2. There were no visible flaps or ailerons of any sort. The bottom looked smooth, and nothing that looked like doors for landing gear. No lights.
The only reason I saw it, is simply I was looking in the right spot at the right time. Pure freekin luck.
It was flying straight. Couldn't guess at its speed, it wasn't slow, or fast. 300kts?? Just a wild guess based on how little time I could see it. Or its altitude. Nor its size. Not very big I would say. Maybe the size of a B2 or smaller. The only reason I saw it was because of the reflection of the city lights on its underside. How low would a craft have to be for that to happen? But it appeared to be maybe 700ish feet? I don't know. And it was silent. No sound at all. It was relatively quiet outside. I was in a residential area, and there was very little ambient sound. As an example, I'd say a Cessna at that altitude would have made plenty of noise. Anything jet powered would have been loud. This was silent. Personally my best guess was a TR3B. But I don't know. Its the only terrestrial craft that fits. I had a clear enough view to rule out pretty much anything else. Edmonton did have an airbase north of it. For some time it was an emergency land site for the Space shuttle because of the 12000' runway. Don't know if that is part of the equation tho. And I don't remember if the airbase was still functional around the year 2000 when I saw this.
But that was my sighting. Any thoughts??

Why no photo/video captured: Happened to quickly and the cell phone at the time would have not taken a good pic anyways.

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r/UFOs 10h ago

Sighting White metallic jellyfish-shaped object flew straight and steady over Oxnard, CA — Sep 5, 2026, 1:30 PM

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Time: September 5, 2026, 1:30 PM PDT
Location: Oxnard, Ventura, California, United States, Oxnard, United States

Detail Reported
Objects 1
Shape jellyfish
Closest distance as high as a plane
Apparent size (arm's length) quarter
Movement straight and steady
Observer facing N
Duration 1 minute
Witnesses 1

Features / five observables

Observation Reporter's answer
Wings No
Rotors No
Exhaust plume No
Noise No
   
Sudden, extreme acceleration No
Extreme speed with no signatures No
Hard to observe clearly No
Moved between air, water, or space No
Flight without visible means of lift Yes

Why not a common object
I checked for other sightings, military activity in the area, and tried to find actual military craft that are similar — nothing came up.

Witness's account of the sighting

I was driving north on the 101 when I saw a large object at low altitude that looked remarkably similar to the jellyfish UAPs reported by the military. It was white and metallic and made of three separate, vertically-oriented sections — two spheres above a cone. The topmost sphere was smaller than the middle one, making it resemble a snowman with a tail. I watched the object, which was flying southbound, for a solid minute before my car passed below it.

There was also a large, white plane moving at a lower altitude in front of it. The wings were unusually long, giving it the appearance of a glider — though it was the wide of a commercial aircraft.

Did anybody else see this today? I’m wondering if it’s a military craft of some kind? Curious to hear any aviation experts weigh in.

Why no photo/video captured: I was driving.

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r/UFOs 10h ago

Sighting Three changing objects moved erratically over Hastings, Hawke's Bay, New Zealand — Sep 3, 2026, 4:44 PM

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Time: September 3, 2026, 4:44 PM NZST
Location: Hastings, Hawke's Bay, New Zealand, Hastings, New Zealand

Detail Reported
Objects 3
Shape changing
Closest distance a few miles
Apparent size (arm's length) pinhead
Movement unpredictable, erratic
Observer facing NE
Duration 14 minutes
Witnesses 1
Sensor detection other

Features / five observables

Observation Reporter's answer
Wings Yes
Rotors Unsure
Exhaust plume No
Noise Yes
   
Sudden, extreme acceleration Yes
Extreme speed with no signatures Yes
Hard to observe clearly Yes
Moved between air, water, or space Yes
Flight without visible means of lift Yes

Why not a common object
I ruled out conventional aircraft, drones, satellites, birds, and weather balloons due to the unique visual morphology, unnatural flight characteristics, and synchronized acoustic anomalies of the event.

Witness's account of the sighting

On Thursday afternoon, September 3, 2026, between roughly 4:20 PM and 5:15 PM, I experienced an intense series of high-strangeness events in Hastings, Hawke's Bay, New Zealand. I was parked alone in my vehicle about three-quarters of the way up a road at a lookout spot I have frequented for the past 7 or 8 years. Weather conditions were optimal with a completely clear sky and excellent visibility. Shortly after arriving, I smoked a quick spliff containing roughly 30% cannabis and 70% tobacco. While settling in, I noticed a small three-meter tower nearby equipped with a satellite dish and a CCTV camera, which prompted a brief, passing thought that someone might be watching me on camera while I rolled up.

About two minutes after settling into my car, a deep, continuous bass frequency initiated and lasted for six to seven minutes. It was a constant, rhythmic "wub-wub-wub" pulse with less than a second between beats, vibrating through my car frame with the physical intensity of a 300W RMS subwoofer. At the exact second I held an unrolled spliff in my mouth, the bass abruptly stopped. I did not experience any nausea or spatial disorientation, but the sudden termination left a dead silence accompanied by a strange sense of heightened awareness and acute hearing.

Exactly one second after the sound cut out, local wildlife exhibited anomalous behavior. A group of birds burst into song simultaneously, cycling through a synchronized sequence of singing, sudden absolute silence, singing again, and silence, before ending on a distinct, repeated damp coo.

About four to five minutes after the bass frequency ceased, while I was meditating and smoking, I noticed a microscopic UAP materialized in a clear patch of sky roughly 2 to 3 kilometres in the distance. The primary object appeared as a tiny transparent sphere or bubble with a thin black outline and a dark nucleus inside, resembling a single frog egg or biological cell. From this dark point, a secondary bird- or fish-like shape emerged and travelled in my direction, veering horizontally left to right rather than taking a direct line. The object vanished into thin air and reappeared two or three times, with each manifestation occurring further away from its initial origin point. This visual sequence lasted less than 30 seconds while the bird calls continued in the background.

Throughout the experience, I felt an inexplicable sense of calm and heightened awareness that felt surprisingly normal in the moment despite the bizarre nature of the event. However, immediately following the encounter and persisting over the next 48 hours, I was hit with an intense wave of fatigue and lethargy far beyond my normal baseline exhaustion.

Core Event Sequence:

Approx. 4:20 PM: Arrival at the roadside location; observation of the nearby 3-meter CCTV and satellite tower.

Approx. 4:22 PM – 4:29 PM: Onset of the 6–7 minute 300W RMS-equivalent bass frequency ("wub-wub-wub"), ending instantly when the unrolled spliff touched my mouth.

Immediate Post-Sound: Instant onset of dead silence, heightened auditory perception, and synchronized, cyclic bird singing and cooing.

Approx. 4:33 PM: Visual manifestation of the cellular/frog-egg-like transparent sphere 2–3 km away; emergence of the bird-/fish-like object with non-linear flight and abrupt spatial re-manifestations (<30 seconds duration).

Following 48 Hours: Severe, unnatural fatigue and physical lethargy.

Why no photo/video captured: No access to/do not own a device with camera or recording capabilities

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r/UFOs 1d ago

NHI Interesting Stuff in Episodes 4 & 5 of the George Knapp Interview with Robert Bigelow and Brandon Fugel

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I just listened to part 4 of George Knapp's interview with Robert Bigelow and Brandon Fugal. I decided to listen to this part, specifically, after listening to a recent episode of Danny Sheehan's Full Disclosure podcast.

In the FD pod Sheehan says that he was "disquieted" by Bigelow's and Fugal's accounts of the negative experiences people have had on the ranch. Sheehan was so disquieted that he puts out a call to action to the Citizens for Disclosure group (the grassroots activist arm of the New Paradigm Institute) to reach out to congressional candidates and ask them what they're going to do about looking into these disquieting accounts.

The accounts shared on part 4 of the Knapp/Bigelow/Fugal conversation were pretty...ummm....disquieting is a god word. Here are some of the highlight accounts (sorry for no timestamps - I was driving while listening):

- two separate instances of individuals seeing/following orbs where the orbs communicated with the individuals telepathically where the message from the orbs was "come no further or you will die."

- another fellow had an experience on a horse (fell off?) while there was an orb on another part of the ranch. The fellows leg got damaged pretty badly, but the worst part was that he ended up in a coma. Doctors contacted the fellow's spouse and suggested pulling him off life support. The guy came out of the coma a few days later with full cognition.

- this next one was kinda crazy, and I'm going to have to listen to it again to be sure I'm getting this right (or someone here can confirm), but... I think it was Fugal who said some guy on the ranch "had the back of his head radiated, and his scalp separated from his skull." Ummm...WHAT?!?!

There was plenty of talk about cattle mutilations, animal mutilations, and sightings of shadow figures and strange creatures, as well.

So, I'm only about 16 minutes and change into part 5, presently. Somewhere before that (I believe between minutes 10-15) Fugal reports bringing a rabbi to the ranch. The rabbi does a "prayer/chant to OPEN A PORTAL." Then, through the use of FLIR technology, they spotted something in a doorway, some sort of darkness indicating a cold area. Then, there were some people who went into the area and the reported the space was "like walking into a deep freezer."

I hope that I got all this stuff right. I'm a bit concerned that I am not retelling this stuff, properly. I will definitely have to give part 4 another listen. I listened to parts 1 and 4 and part of part 5.

Has anyone else listened to these parts of the interview? Am I getting this stuff wrong? If so, what are your thoughts?


r/UFOs 1d ago

Question soooo what does it all mean?

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I think there is a genuine anomalous phenomenon. It occasionally produces physical manifestations that look like technological objects. Some of those objects may be extremely advanced technology.

Governments have encountered enough of it to take it seriously and classify portions of what they know.

Different compartments interpret different pieces differently. Some people conclude "extraterrestrial." Others conclude "advanced human technology." Others conclude "interdimensional." Others conclude "consciousness phenomenon."

Meanwhile, ancient humans may have encountered related phenomena and interpreted them through religion/mythology, but that message/story has changed and evolved over time due to humans manipulating things for personal gain.

Thoughts?


r/UFOs 1d ago

Historical Corroborating Curtis LeMay’s 1947 Meteorological R&D Directive

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This declassified evidence of unimpeachable provenance corroborates the various claims made in the “alleged” Twining memo of July 18, 1947. This evidence was only declassified within the last 15 years, ie, decades after the “alleged” Twining memo leaked. Proving yet another Majestic document was real all along.