r/StrangerThings • u/AdBackground6381 • 3h ago
Discussion Analyzing THAT scene second by second Spoiler
I have reviewed the scene of El's disappearance frame by frame, and this is what I observed.
1:16:23 As Bradley Big Buy's truck passes through the Gate, we see a Hedgehog to our right, next to the Gate, and an armed soldier behind it. This detail is crucial.
1:16:30 We see another Hedgehog to our left next to the Gate, another one to its left, both with armed soldiers behind them, and yet another on top of a military vehicle. In total, four Hedgehogs.
1:16:32 We see Eleven inside the truck holding onto Mike. This means she hasn't jumped out of the truck or anything like that with the intention of staying behind in the Upside Down, as Kali suggested.
1:16:33 The soldiers approach the truck, forming a tight cordon. Hopper and Murray's Humvee is to the left of the truck (driver's side), less than two meters away. It's impossible to pass through without being seen.
1:16:38 The soldiers approach the truck's cab. We see a wide shot where we can see that the vehicle with the Hedgehog is to the right of the truck, very close by. Kay approaches the vehicle with the Hedgehog. There are soldiers everywhere surrounding the truck. It's impossible to get out of the truck without being seen by them.
1:16:39 Soldiers to the left, to the right, and behind the truck.
1:16:43 At least a dozen soldiers are pointing their guns at our protagonists at point-blank range.
1:16:45 El is still inside the truck. A soldier grabs Mike as he gets out, and Mike protests.
1:16:46 Kay watches the scene with satisfaction.
1:16:47 EL IS GETTING OUT OF THE TRUCK. A soldier is pointing a gun at her from the Jeep with the Hedgehog, and another is pointing his weapon at her. A soldier is touching El, perhaps grabbing her. There are more soldiers very close by. We don't see El again until she appears at the Gate.
1:16:48 Hopper is forced out of the Humvee by a soldier.
1:16:49 We see soldiers near the left side of the truck (driver's side). If El ran toward the Gate on this side, the soldiers would have necessarily seen her and stopped her instantly.
1:16:50 Murray is forced out of the Humvee. This moment is obviously simultaneous with 1:16:48.
1:16:52 Steve is forced out of the truck.
1:16:53 Holly and the children get out of the truck.
1:16:55 Soldiers everywhere. We see Melvald's store in the background. Nancy tries to help Holly but is pushed against the truck (right side, passenger side).
1:16:56 Max, Vicky, and a soldier watch the scene. It's unclear where they are.
1:17:00 Hopper gets out of the Humvee. This moment is a direct continuation of 1:16:48, obviously. It's important to note that the scene shows both simultaneous and successive moments. Reaction shot: we see the Hedgehog in the military vehicle and the one to the right of the Gate. We don't see Eleven at the Gate or running towards it.
1:17:03 Very quick shot: we see Steve and Robin being held at gunpoint by the soldiers (Hopper's point of view). An obvious continuation of 1:16:52; it would be almost immediate, but the time has been lengthened to show us more action. He looks at the Jeep. We don't see Eleven.
1:17:06 Kay is next to the Jeep. She looks in all directions, including towards the Gate. She doesn't see Eleven, neither at the Gate nor running towards it.
1:17:09 Hopper's point of view: he looks towards the Gate. Eleven isn't there. It's then that Kay, judging by her reaction, realizes that Eleven has disappeared.
1:17:13 Mike looks around. From his position, the Gate was in his field of vision. He doesn't see El at the door or running toward it. He asks Dustin if he's seen her.
1:17:15 Dustin looks around and doesn't see her either.
1:17:19 A sergeant looking in all directions, including the Gate, also doesn't see El.
1:17:26 Dustin looks in the same direction as the sergeant. He doesn't see El either, neither at the Gate nor running toward it.
1:17:32 This is the moment we first see El at the Gate. Our point of view is Mike's, as he's the first to see her.
1:17:37 Dustin looks in the same direction as before and now he sees her (he hadn't seen her before), as can be seen from his reaction.
1:17:38 Close-up of El, who has an impassive expression on her face. She shows no signs of being affected by the Hedgehogs or of having recently run towards the Gate.
1:17:40 Mike runs towards the Gate and is stopped instantly. He was running towards the military vehicle with the Hedgehog on top of him. This detail is important because it tells us that Eleven must have run in this direction as well. How come the military didn't see her run but did see Mike?
Then comes the scene of the Void.
1:20:06 Nancy calls Mike and tries to run towards him. Jonathan reacts. Neither of them seems to have seen Eleven yet.
1:20:15 We see Hopper react to Eleven's presence at the Gate (he didn't seem to have seen her before). We clearly see an armed soldier behind the Hedgehog next to the Gate. He doesn't seem to have realized that Eleven is supposedly just a few meters away.
1:20:17 Kay looks towards the Gate. From her reaction, it seems that this is when she sees Eleven there for the first time.
1:20:19 Joyce looks toward the Gate. Same observation as before.
1:20:20 Robin and Steve look toward the Gate. Same observation as before.
1:20:22 Close-up of Eleven. We see that her nose isn't bleeding.
1:20:25 Will reacts, as if he had seen Eleven at the door at that moment.
1:20:27 Lucas yells, "Eleven, no!"
1:20:30 Dustin tries to run toward Eleven.
1:20:34 Eleven takes a breath.
1:20:44 The bomb explodes.
1:20:53 The fireball generated by the bomb dissipates. We see that the lab is still intact (it is a very quick shot but this is indisputable).
1:20:54 Light envelops Eleven (I have a feeling that in the initial plan she disappeared here; at least that's what happens in the later Dungeons & Dragons playthrough with the Mage).
1:21:04 A hurricane-force wind begins to ravage the Upside Down.
1:21:12 The hurricane-force wind ravages the high school.
1:21:18 The hurricane-force wind ravages WSQK.
1:21:23 The hurricane-force wind ravages the Wheeler house.
1:21:30 Even though we see the hurricane-force wind behind her, El is standing as if nothing is happening, showing no signs of making an effort to stay upright.
1:21:43 El turns his palms towards us. It can be clearly seen (if the screen is large) that his "011" tattoo has disappeared (Note that Millie has that tattoo in real life). The wind surrounds her but doesn't seem to affect her.
1.21:45 The camera zooms in on El's face, which suddenly disappears, replaced by the hurricane-force wind. We don't see the wind carry her away (as it did in the script), only that she vanishes.
The conclusion of this analysis is, I believe, indisputable: it was impossible for Eleven to have made it from the truck to the Gate so quickly—a span of 45 seconds of airtime, though in reality it was far less, as the scene’s timing is stretched out, as I have detailed—without anyone seeing her, and with four Hedgehogs active. Even if we don't accept Mike's explanation, it still remains to be explained how Eleven managed to do that. And I don't buy explanations like "it was dark" (it wasn't; there were powerful floodlights) or "they didn't realize it was her running" (her wetsuit made her unmistakable, even from a great distance).
This, by the way, will be the only thing I rewatch from the fifth season.