I had to enable the microphone on my mac because Firefox does not support mic input when using Google translate (what a shit browser). Anyways, I selected all the Chinese languages, but which do these characters refer to?

From left to right: ? ? English Cantonese ?

I keep hearing this cantonese song on YouTube advertisements by Lazada.

The tune sounds very familiar but the song title escapes me.

It seems to be a mandarin song, and also has a cantonese version if memories serve.

If anyone knows the song title of either version, i will be really thankful.

Sorry for the short clip, that is the best i can do for now.

Thank you.

☯️易學文化解說｜中文字本身就係陰陽

市面上好多嗰啲大師，講得好聽叫「師博」，講得難聽就係「施苦」。

貼錢買難受，畀苦你受，咪就係「施苦」囉😭

我寧願你叫我大C，起碼有Credit。

風水師唔係靠個名，係靠真材實料學問。

你又見過幾多「施苦」？

留言講下你中過伏嘅經歷，等大家唔好中招。🙏

He is from HK and loves cooking for our family. He is an amazing cook and has shared many of his recipes and techniques on how to cook some dishes you might find at an HK Cafe.

yo. this is knight here with the beta 1.0 Colloquial Cantonese edition of TCoAaL. Here's the GitHub. Just push new commits from where I've left off. or fork the whole thing.

here were my previous updates, with corrected titles:

• [Beta] [WIP Localization] The Coffin of Andrew and Lele, Cantonese
• [Help Wanted] [Filler DeepL text added] Looking for Volunteers, Cantonese Andy and Leyley v0.2
• [Help Wanted] The Coffin of Andy and Leyley, Cantonese Localization Update v0.3
• [Update] [WIP] Cantonese Coffin of Andy and Lele v0.4

brief

the general gist of this project is i wanted to make learning resources in written cantonese — which is already in short supply — that was easy to translate (that leaves out Undertale) and which wasn't so E for Everyone.

characters had to actually argue and the game had to have enough controversial content in it to justify the mundanity of editing an xlsx whenever possible.

this horror game contains gore and depictions of human violence, mentions and implications of illicit relations between brother-and-sister in the bad route, and general cosmic horror.

and i had prior experience working on cantocaptions and other things. here is the version 1.0 cld which has not yet been posted to the steam thread. the Jyutping font link has been uploaded to the steam page.

process

this project is mostly monotonous spreadsheet work.

for most of the project, i did incremental batches. or i asked AI to give me the specific rows with context, and manually retranslated them depending on context. if any doubts remain, please see this pre-fix context batch and fixed context batch which is indicative of the type of work i have taken in this project. overall, just over 5k lines are wonky, give or take 6k if we're unlucky.

please see my typed notes markdown for more information.

todo:

i marked a random distribution of the lines across various segments by spreadsheeting and found about 21% of the lines are still egregiously wonky. this is despite me normalizing against set and standardized conventions. i also have played through the game and some of the translations that feel fine when you're doing the spreadsheet such as UI choices are not as imagined and have to be manually redone.

• AI doesn't fully understand 噉 to 咁, 下 to 吓, and other conventions, so I have to redo them by checking the CSV it scans.
• probably lower the font size a little, i know it's cut off
• some of the words are off, i need to replace Entity as solid/實體 to monster/妖怪 or strange creature/怪物.
• the grammar is also not [noun][verb] and [verb][noun], that's the core Mandarin/Cantonese difference
• Entity lines 【text「homophone」text】are not complete.
• some improperly split punctuation caused english text leakage because you can write more translated lines, but English lines will always regenerate in a fixed and limited manner so you can't remove any. this should be mostly resolved but there's a bug with a few lines leaking.
• some other split punctuation likes periods which still undergo next-line leakage.
• Weird mixed cases 什、什嘢？我希望唔係 [split] 喇。我老婆會殺咗我！which should be 乜、乜嘢？我希望唔係 [split] 喇。我老婆會殺咗我！

If you discount the minor errors and awkward phrasing, it's basically done (correction for this part here).

contribution

the public repo will be opened to the public in three to five hours once i finish moving my files. to actually push edits, you'll have to be a contributor. i can't devote that much time to this project unless i find multiple people willing to help.

i am going to take a break from this project and work on it much more intermittently for now due to other obligations as part of CantoCaptions.

the conundrum

1. if captioning something takes like 3-10x the length of the episode, with 100-300 lines with AI, it's really hard for me to justify pouring a few triple digit hours into a translation with 25,000 lines. there's a proverb about using your own lifespan to breathe life into characters, and this is about as much life I'm willing to give Andy or Leyley.
2. despite being considered informal language, verbatim written colloquial Cantonese with a standards document is incidentally something people teach at universities or at advertising companies. can't press a button. you have to get all the sfp combinations like 㗎啦㗎咩/㗎啦咩's close to perfect.
3. the people who could make this mainly write in swc (Guangdong). Or they text informally and have no experience with a standards document (HK). while interested in the results, few want to work on Andy and Lele or have the time to spare.
4. the people who benefit most from having verbatim speech (heritage learners or interested people) cannot make it. they have a lack of any training.
5. coming from experience and doing this with Mandarin and Japanese team (from mainland, Taiwan, Singapore, and NA), this is a 5 person job with AI, with rotating shift schedules. this 7/10 rechecked version might be all i can feasibly make.

if you know anyone who would be willing to help, tell me. we'd have to split the work evenly though.

stuff I'm reasonably proud of translating/localizing (not spoiling the arguments):

fragment 1:

"It is I, your Andy. At your ［係我，你嘅「安安」，］
whim. And at your feet." ［仰人鼻息嘅「安安」。就喺你腳下擦鞋嘅「安安」。］

擦鞋 caat3 haai4 = to shine shoes/praise excessively, 腳下 goek3 haa6 is below your feet.

fragment 2:

waiting for the other shoe to drop. ［等另外一隻拖鞋甩喎。］

甩拖 lat1 to1 = to lose a slipper, to break up with smone

Thus, "waiting for the other slipper to drop".

Hey everyone! I'm Hispanic and I fell in love with a Cantonese girl. I want to learn Cantonese so I can eventually speak with her in her native language.

I'm basically starting from scratch. Do you have any recommendations for apps, textbooks, YouTube channels, or other resources for beginners?

I'd especially appreciate advice on pronunciation and learning the tones properly. Thanks!

大家好! I've heard of the common Cantonese colloquial habit, where words starting with N tend to start with L instead in common speech. The most famous example would be 你 being pronounced as lei5. Other examples I commonly hear are 女 being pronounced as neoi2, and 諗 being pronounced as lam2

I'd like to ask if this pattern applies to most or all Cantonese words starting with n, such as 腦，男，年，能，難，奶，etc. I'm learning Cantonese to speak to my fellow Malaysians, and I would like to speak the colloquial way

唔該晒！

I used to watch tvb a lot when I was a kid but as I got older I lost interest in watching tv.

I am an intermediate learner at best, what tv shows can you recommend for me to watch? I need it to be interesting because I dont watch much TV nowadays and I have a short attention span.

https://tvbanywherena.com/en

Ha zi mein, or dried shrimp roe noodles, are a Cantonese household staple.

Traditionally made from broth-infused dough that is steamed and then immediately baked dry to eliminate moisture, the noodles release the broth when boiled, turning the hot water into a rich, nutritious soup.

As mass-produced versions dominate supermarket shelves, the artisanal craft of making ha zi mein – which is listed as part of Hong Kong’s intangible cultural heritage – is becoming increasingly rare.

But Wing Lok Noodle Factory, a humble operation in Hong Kong’s Kowloon Bay neighbourhood that celebrates its 50th anniversary in 2026, has been leading a ha zi mein renaissance by producing noodles with fun new flavours such as black truffle, curry seafood, pepper pork and Sichuan spicy beef.

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“My dad would make separate batches [of ha zi mein] in the authentic, traditional way for customers who appreciated it and could afford it,” he says. “There will always be real gourmets with high standards for food and flavour.”

... the ageing Chan senior faced the same problem as many small heritage businesses: he struggled to find someone to take over. His son was the natural first choice, but had been working for more than six years in aviation logistics, in a job that paid well and did not demand the same dedication as noodle making.

“I didn’t want the burden of being tied down by a business,” Angus Chan says. “Then, one day, my dad said to me, ‘I’m exhausted. I want to retire. A friend of mine may buy the factory for HK$200,000.’ I thought, ‘What? HK$200,000 for 40 years of your life’s work?’

“It felt like such a waste. So I decided to come back and give it a shot. If I succeed, great. If not, I could always go back to working at the airport.”

Upon taking over the factory, the younger Chan realised it was even more difficult than he anticipated. There was no formal structure; his father handled everything himself, from taking orders to accounting and issuing invoices.

“I assumed the company was well-developed with proper systems in place, but I had to restructure the entire organisation, hire more staff and start building our own brand – for 40 years, we never had a brand of our own.”

Turning a little-known legacy into a popular brand

The turning point came when Angus Chan read an article in a local Chinese-language magazine that ranked the top five store-bought ha zi mein in Hong Kong. Four of the five were produced by Wing Lok for other companies to sell under their brand names.

He found himself wondering why Wing Lok did not just build its own brand. “That way, we would be free from price pressures imposed by retailers asking us to compromise on ingredient quality. With our own brand, I can use premium ingredients so everyone gets to have better food.”

He eventually shifted from mostly working in the office to learning how to make noodles himself, which enabled him to better understand how the business worked and earn the respect of the sifus, or veteran workers. In 2018, he suggested making speciality coriander-flavour noodles to appeal to younger consumers, which caused friction.

“My dad really protested against it. We had a big argument,” he says. “He was like, ‘Are you mad? How on earth can you make coriander ha zi mein?’”

“I said, ‘Why don’t we just try and test the market?’ It was a big hit and quickly sold out. People were queuing to snap them up. That’s when my dad realised the potential of innovation. He turned around and even started researching how to intensify the coriander flavour himself.”

... Angus Chan has developed more than 10 speciality flavours and recently released single-serving packs with topping kits.

Each variation took between three and six months of research and development, but he says the hard work was worth it to ensure the components, texture and flavour profile were up to par.

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Angus Chan is thankful to the sifus who were willing to adapt to the new business model, and was happy when his father told him he was proud of the new Wing Lok brand before his untimely death in 2023.

Now in his 11th year of running the company, Angus Chan has transformed his late father’s legacy into a well-known retail brand in its own right, with stockists in markets including Japan, Taiwan, Singapore, Malaysia, the United Kingdom, the United States, Canada and Australia. The brand also continues to support much of Hong Kong’s noodle wholesale market.

In the years to come, he hopes to encourage locals to turn away from cheaper mass-produced ha zi mein variations in favour of better-tasting traditional ones. “Authentic ha zi mein is really delicious with a rich broth,” he says.

In the meantime, he hopes to take the Wing Lok brand further and find more fans around the world.

“Over the past few years, we’ve attended various international trade shows. The Japanese were amazed that boiling water alone turns the dried noodles into a rich broth. And while some Westerners may find traditional ha zi mein too fishy, they found our flavoured variations fascinating.

“And for the Hongkongers who have emigrated overseas, they often come back and buy them by the boxful [or place online orders] because they treat it as comfort food and a taste of home.”

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.scmp.com/lifestyle/food-drink/article/3366056/how-hong-kong-maker-authentic-shrimp-roe-noodles-leading-comeback

https://www.scmp.com/lifestyle/food-drink/article/3366056/how-hong-kong-maker-authentic-shrimp-roe-noodles-leading-comeback

I noticed that the Sheik Cantonese Parser is down now. http://www.cantonese.sheik.co.uk/dictionary/parser/

I've been using this for years. Is there any other site that is similar that people use now? I like the fact that I can paste in some Cantonese text and it converts it to Jyutping.

請問有沒有在吉的堡任教的老師能分享經驗？