We're sick of her poser bullshit and using our subculture to sell butthole pics because harassment due to fetishization is already something we have to contend with every time we go outside. Hope that clears it up for you!
I’m gonna copy paste part of my reply to someone else and add onto it cause I’m lazy lol
From a fashion standpoint her makeup and outfits are more aligned with e-girl trends than anything close to traditional goth. There’s some light elements inspired by goth fashion, but fundamentally it’s just a darker e-girl look. Traditional goth is a lot bolder and edgier, looks like hers are more “cleaned up” to be in line with conventional beauty standards and trends, whereas goth style is meant to be a direct opposition to that. Kinda just whitewashed counterculture.
There’s nothing WRONG with it, and I think it can look very flattering, but a lot of people reject it as being “real” goth fashion because it’s so misaligned with the original subculture lol
In regard to the aesthetic bit, look up trad goth makeup and outfits and see how distinct it is from modern dark e-girl. They borrow some elements like darker clothes, maybe some chains or cross earrings or some shit, vampy (dark colored) lips, but it’s not really following the original spirit.
In regard to the cultural aspect, goth subculture also comprises of music (named after the genre), political views, etc.. It’s very much a community for “outcasts”, politically conscious, and disenfranchised people. I know elder goths whose lives were saved by people in their scene. There’s a strong sense of community built up because it was people loving and caring for each other in the face of rejection from mainstream society. These were communities taking in gay kids who were kicked out of their homes and helping single moms keep food on the table when women had only been allowed to open a bank account for a decade.
The commodification of (a whitewashed imitation of) “The Look” as a porn category for mainstream society to crank it to understandably upsets these people. It’s not about gatekeeping for the sake of being a pretentious asshole, but more so frustration about their community being belittled and reduced to a fetish. Less about not wanting the girls to have fun with their fashion, more about not derailing the sociocultural movement.
I’m gonna copy paste part of my reply to someone else and add onto it cause I’m lazy lol
Lmao you are definitely not lazy for typing up that much info. Reusing it is just sensible use of time. Thanks for the info! I actually understand your frustration around its appropriation and fetishization
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u/Saltylittlepotato 16h ago
We're sick of her poser bullshit and using our subculture to sell butthole pics because harassment due to fetishization is already something we have to contend with every time we go outside. Hope that clears it up for you!