That's a modern interpretation, sure. No not everyone has a bisexual inside us waiting to come out lol people having gay sex in jail or the military were never straight to begin with. It happens a lot less than it's stereotyped. Contraceptives did exist back then, it just wasn't super effective like we have it today.
Sure, but most people are not entirely gay or entirely straight. The folks who insist otherwise, I suspect might not be too comfortable with where they sit on the spectrum š¤·
Flip this around. Imagine telling someone who insists they are gay that they are actually secretly straight. Or even secretly bi. That's kinda fucked up. Who cares what other people identify as. Let people choose their sexual preferences for themselves rather than telling them what they are.
The section under Impact and later development goes into more recent studies. Our understanding has improved since the Kinsey Scale but itās not junk.
And then justā¦the human experience? Iāve met very few people who donāt find a single member of the same sex attractive.
Finding someone attractive is WILDLY different than having sexual feelings for them.
Attraction is a weird psycho/social mess of things and sexuality is a whole other.
Admitting that someone of the same sex is attractive is not admitting thereās sexual desire - if anything youāre talking about homo-admiration not homosexuality; key part = sexual.
Nearly every woman Iāve interacted with is more interested in female bodies and shapes and more eager to point out what they think is attractive or positive about that; while simultaneously completely unable to acknowledge the concept of attraction to men based on a purely physical components. They will bend over backwards to explain the charming goofball chubby guy is āhotterā than the Adonis, but stop and point out how physically amazing a female celebrity is and how rocking their body is - and nearly none of them have sexual feelings for for women. It would be obnoxiously stupid to say āwell theyre not %100 straightā since they donāt have sexual feelings for women.
Of course it is, gay or straight is an identity that relies on self ID. Youāre straight or gay if you say so, I donāt care either way. I find a number of men attractive but Iām a straight man.
I wouldn't tell them they were actually straight, you tell them the truth, which is that sexuality is a spectrum and just because you are only into men right now doesn't mean you won't at some point want to be with women, it doesn't mean you will either.
Jfc.. you're just as bad as that fucking Bill Nye dude saying the only reason you're straight is because you haven't tried it yet.
No dude, it's a "spectrum" for some people. In fact, a VAST minority of people.
Reddit is just fucking delusional because people who don't fit in congregate here and spread the illusion that there are more of them then there really are.
You can either prove them wrong with actual evidence or you're just another pointless unverified opinion on reddit- the exact thing you're bitching about currently.
Btfuckingw, the idiot above me didn't provide a source yet I'm sure you're inclined to believe them because it fits your warped reddit view of the world.
9% of adults in the U.S. claim to fall along a spectrum that includes the whole LGBTQ+ umbrella.
I don't really care about the guy you're responding to because only one of you is bitching about "reddit's opinions" while actively regurgitating one. I was also more interested in seeing you attempt to disprove the "sexuality as a spectrum" argument.
The article you provided is just about identification, which does not disprove that point. If anything, it reinforces the theory- a spectrum where most data favors one point is still, in fact, a spectrum.
I actually agree with you that the vast majority of people likely just identify as "straight," but that's like how most people will see 625-750 nm of EMR as "red." Do you really believe everyone who identifies as "straight" is the exact amount of "straight" as every other, or likewise with any given identity? Ask 100 straight people where they draw the line and you'll get roughly 100 different answers. The fact that different cultures have such differing views on sexuality is proof enough, I would think.
You may as well say music doesn't exist on a spectrum, and that every rock song is as "rock" as the next, and that it's impossible to have a rock song that is at all pop-y, or vice versa.
Bro when you jerk off you use a man hand (your own), the reality is that if it was widely accepted and even considered a good thing than most people would do it, it's just that we live in a repressive society so most people have a mental block on having homosexual sex, not being attracted to something or someone does not stop you from having sex, you are likely not attracted to toys or your hand yet you can use them to bring you to completion.
. This "everyone is bi" bs really needs to stop. It's like telling gays or lesbians that they still must feel a bit of attraction for the opposite sex. Like, no. If you do you're bisexual. Most people aren't. That's it.
I just tell them that I'm attracted to who I am attracted to, I have no way to control it. it has never been a problem for me, none of the women I have been with cared.
For you. For me. But not for everyone. Queer folk gotta stop this shit, its literally our version of "being gay is a choice" or "I could turn you straight if you give me night" and its gross behavior. Stop it.
Nah I donāt think itās a binary. Iāve literally hooked up with ONE dude my entire life (and it was absolutely cool, but ultimately just not my jam). And had attraction maybe to like 2? Over 20 years. Iāve heard much gayer shit from āstraightā jocks lol.
For sure, some dudes are āNEVERā - Kinsey scale 0. But itās not that black/white identity-wise. Thatās also like too much into the āborn like thisā propaganda. We donāt have a choice over sexuality at all, but itās not that simple.
Dude some people need to explore their sexuality to find out where they land in terms of labels. That is totally fine but not relevant to what we're saying. You had sex with a dude and it's not your thing, okay, then you are straight. Gay men have sex with many women before they realize that no actually they're gay and like men.
Maybe Iām wrong, but I suspect youāre misinterpreting them.
The Kinsey Scale and other models acknowledge exclusively hetero/homosexual orientations. The point is that those people are relatively rare, as are those in the āable to fall in love with/hook up with anyone they like regardless of gender or presentationā middle.
Most people are hanging out more on one side of that midpoint than the other, but not at the extremes. Iād guess your pals are only trying to make that point.
The ones in the āBā range especially may be touchy for essentially the same reason as you, i.e. theyāve had to deal with people making claims about sexuality that deny their existence (ābi erasureā).
On the other hand if theyāre trying to slot you into a category you absolutely donāt fit in, thatās icky :)
Things can't be a spectrum for some and not others. That's not how measuring shit works. That's like saying that movie quality is a spectrum for some people, but for others I either liked it or I didn't and there is no variation to the degree to which I liked it.
I don't get why you are being so offended by the idea (quite well backed by science as well) that sexuality is a spectrum. If you want to place yourself on that spectrum as completely hetero without a gay bone in your body, that's fine, but that is still a point on the fucking spectrum.
What I read is that it's a spectrum. Think of it like an empty to full dial on your gas tank. Everyone falls somewhere on that spectrum, or dial. It might be at the very far sides - 100% gay or 100% straight - but those are still part of that spectrum. They're the outer limits, but still part.
Unless asexuality is the true outer limit š¤·āāļø
Well, somewhat -- everything in the middle would be various degrees of bi. So broadly, you're correct in 3 categories (4 for asexual). It's not quite binary though. Bi is a huge, varying middle ground.
I have read Greek history my guy, it's a misconception that everyone was gay or fluid or all that. Just because it wasn't stigmatized (it actually was, just not the way it happens now) doesn't mean it was the majority.
I'd say it's pretty normal today too, but a straight guy isn't likely to just turn gay because there's no women around to have sex with. They'd have to be gay/bi-sexual to begin with.
In the last 10 years it have been greatly exaggerated how gay Greek cultural was. It was more prominent than other areas of the world, but really wasnāt as prominent as some people like to think it is.
Dudeā¦ it has its own entry in Wikipedia, it was a literal normal part of life, fuck it was actually expected and even encouraged to form stronger military bonds
Nah man. Thereās a reason porn produced for straight men has buff, well hung dudes. It doesnāt mean youāre gay, but human sexuality evolved in a social dynamic. Seeing another person being sexual makes people want to be sexual, sort of like seeing someone eating can make people hungry.
No one drew a line between gay and straight back in the day. Thatās a modern, social illusion. Absolutely gay dudes will always have a story about having sex with a woman, too.
Human sexuality is fluid. If you have no stimuli around you for months or years, the brain will trigger sexual arousal eventually regardless of how straight someone is.
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u/Lower_Pension_2469 Aug 05 '26
That's a modern interpretation, sure. No not everyone has a bisexual inside us waiting to come out lol people having gay sex in jail or the military were never straight to begin with. It happens a lot less than it's stereotyped. Contraceptives did exist back then, it just wasn't super effective like we have it today.