r/medicine 4d ago

Biweekly Careers Thread: September 03, 2026

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Questions about medicine as a career, about which specialty to go into, or from practicing physicians wondering about changing specialty or location of practice are welcome here.

Posts of this sort that are posted outside of the weekly careers thread will continue to be removed.


r/medicine 1d ago

Is diltiazem now allowed for treatment of rapid AF in the setting of HFrEF? (and beta blockers not)?

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My learning throughout the years is that in HFrEF, we avoid diltiazem due to its negative inotropic effect. So in such patients with AF RVR, I never give IV dilt and has been giving IV beta blockers (or digoxin or amio). Now, the uptodate article says

For patients with HFrEF, we use intravenous (IV) amiodarone, IV digoxin, (and rarely IV diltiazem) 

We generally avoid augmenting beta blocker therapy in patients with AF and acute decompensated HF. In such patients, the negative inotropic properties of a beta blocker may worsen the clinical condition. 

It seems like what I learned is now flipped. What if the patient has AF RVR and HFrEF but not in acute decompensation? Does the above still apply?

https://www.uptodate.com/contents/atrial-fibrillation-and-heart-failure-management


r/medicine 1d ago

Why US Phase 1 clinical trials are moving overseas and leaving patients behind

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https://www.nytimes.com/2026/09/04/opinion/clinical-trials-drugs-science.html?unlocked_article_code=1.-lA.70Ug.3cQ2jpK8wNBH&smid=url-share

Starter comment: I found this piece on the growing bottlenecks in US Phase 1 clinical trials eye opening, especially regarding how regulatory friction is driving trial sponsors abroad. "We often forget that the most toxic thing for the patient is the cancer itself" is a quote that hits hard. When paperwork and redundant IRB reviews delay early-stage trials by months, patients with advanced disease run out of time.

I didn't know how Australia approached Phase 1 trials, and it was refreshing to read about how the process is streamlined there without sacrificing patient safety. I'm also glad the author cautioned against following China's model, especially given their serious transparency concerns.


r/medicine 1d ago

Poems to help medics burn out in more interesting and reflective ways: Barney’s ALS revision

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Barney’s ALS Revision

If you’re tachy and you know it
Zap with joules
One-twenty to two-hundred ought to do
If you’re tachy and you know it
And you really want to slow it
If you’re tachy and you know it
Zap with joules

If you’re brady and you know it
Zap with amps
Fifty milli ought to do it; there’s a chance
If you don’t do synchronising
Cardiology despising
You’ll ‘R on T’ and piss will fill your pants


r/medicine 1d ago

Free and easy online CME?

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Free CME resources?

Anyone have any recommendations for free online on_demand CME? Can be webinars, podcasts, etc. Looking for something efficient to knock out some baseless annual hospital requirements. All I need is a certificate for proof of completion.

TIA


r/medicine 2d ago

Ethics of working in detention centers

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I am a nurse and it seems that the prevailing take on [r/nursing](r/nursing) is that no healthcare worker should work in the concentration camps period. This take bothers me. I feel that it is refusing to acknowledge the reality of the situation. The camps are going to exist and those people need empathetic care. I personally believe that it is better to have kind professionals actually providing care to the detained than having only the kind of people who take pleasure in working there providing the “care.”

That being said, I do get where the community is coming from. It does feel like you’re compromising your own morals by working there. I get why the gut reaction is to refuse to do it.

I wanted to see what this community’s thoughts on the situation were. I also appreciate that your takes will have an additional layer because you are responsible for signing the orders and taking the accountability when it all (hopefully) comes crumbling down.

Mods: I see that there is a rule against single topic or political threads. I think that this is a topic that affects all of us, and I think we should have a forum to discuss it. But if you take it down, I get it.

EDIT:Even after sleeping on it and reflecting, it’s still not that cut and dry to me. As an aside, I haven’t even looked up how much these jobs pay. I think myself and probably some of the people here would provide aspects of this care for free if we could afford to. I would absolutely volunteer to care for these patients outside of the facility if that was an option.

But that raises another question for me. If a detainee gets sent to my hospital, I can treat them compassionately, advocate for them, patch them up, and then ultimately send them right back to the same camp. Most people seem to agree that caring for them in that situation is obviously ethical. So what exactly changes when the care happens behind the walls of the facility instead? Aren’t you still, in some way, enabling the system to continue?

I’m not saying there is no difference. Working inside could make you more complicit in keeping the system functioning, and you may eventually be asked to participate in things you would never be asked to do at an outside hospital. The forced NG tube is an obvious example. I don’t think a hospital would allow that to occur. But I also don’t think every moment of working there would involve participating in something like that.

The strongest objection I’ve seen is that harm reduction could become a rationalization for participating in increasingly abusive acts. I think that’s a true danger and if you are going to work there it necessitates a clear line beyond which you refuse to remain complicit and quit.

The concept of moral remainder or the problem of dirty hands is a recurring theme. Sometimes you make the choice you believe is least wrong and there is still something morally regrettable left over. The fact that you chose correctly, if you did, does not magically make the thing you had to do good.

The underlying issue is so difficult because of two conflicting maxims: do not abandon people who are vulnerable, and do not become the mechanism that enables harm.

Refusing to participate protects us from complicity, but it does not necessarily protect the detainee. The ethical question does not end at would I dirty my hands by working there? It also has to ask, who is left caring for these people if everyone with moral objections leaves?


r/medicine 2d ago

Healthcare organizations can now connect EHR and additional industry data to ChatGPT

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"Today, we’re introducing a new electronic health record integration that brings authorized patient context from Epic into ChatGPT for Healthcare..." "Healthcare organizations can now connect Epic environments to ChatGPT."

Few thoughts here:

  • Generative AI hallucinates, which could pose risks when querying health data.
  • The EHR is already messy and inaccurate, meaning the summarized results may also be inaccurate.
  • Will OpenAI stick to it's promises not to train their models on patient data?
  • Is there any risk of the data being sold to third parties like pharmaceutical companies?

Full Announcement: https://openai.com/index/chatgpt-connects-health-records-and-healthcare-sources/


r/medicine 3d ago

Chronic myeloid leukemia, a 17-year-old, his mother, and Make America Healthy Again collide in Oklahoma (gifted article)

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https://www.nytimes.com/2026/09/01/magazine/maha-cancer-treatment-doctors-cps.html?unlocked_article_code=1.-1A.yeZP.AMPybLj7cTTG&smid=url-share

Brief Synopsis

The patient Presten is a 17-year-old boy with epilepsy (resolved) and autism who was diagnosed with chronic myeloid leukemia (CML) in 2024. His mother, Dayna, speaking on behalf of Presten from 2024 to 2025 and being influenced by anti-vaccine activists, claims that Presten's labs were normalizing on imatinib, but the CML flared up around October 2024, at which point Presten was to start dasatinib. Mooney read a Twitter post on ivermectin and cancer and subsequently started lying to Presten's nurse and physicians. In early 2025, Dayna got Presten to be seen by an unlicensed naturopath (who did not attend an accredited naturopathic college) "to get to the root cause of all of these issues." This naturopath recommended folinic acid tablets, glutathiones, and avoiding oxalates, then claimed that Presten "looked fantastic." In September 2025, Dayna took a picture of Presten at his 17th birthday and posted it on Facebook. Her mother saw that Presten looked thin and pale; she confided in a pastor and then called CPS, who took Presten to Oklahoma Children's in October 2025.

The ED physicians found that Presten had a WBC count of 461,120 and was febrile. He then received dasatinib in the hospital. That is when Dayna, a member of Moms for Liberty, started reaching out to Oklahoma's state senators and representatives, plus MAHA advocates, claiming that this was a "medical kidnapping." Dayna tried getting two physicians on the case for her - one wanted to hear more, while the other, an orthopedic surgeon, initially agreed but then rescinded it upon seeing Presten. Eventually, on October 24, 2025, the courts ruled that Presten is to be under guardianship by his adopted father because Presten was in imminent danger. Since then, Presten has been on dasatinib with significant improvement in his WBCs and has gained about 60 pounds.

Most of all, from Presten's perspective:

Presten held hands with James [father] and Heather [father's wife] as we [Elizabeth Barber - the journalist who documented this NYT piece] spoke about his life with Mooney. In retrospect, when he reflected on the years since his diagnosis, he said it was a lonely and isolated time. It no longer made sense to him why his mother pulled him from school and why she stopped taking him to the oncologists at Oklahoma Children’s. He thought he shouldn’t have been allowed to stop taking his medication, even if he’d wanted to stop. “I was too young,” he said. Now he felt that his oncologists had always been trying to help him. “The doctors — they saved my life.” Presten wore a new T-shirt that said, “I’m proof that God answers prayers,” and he said he believed what the shirt said.

Starter Comment

What a mess. What is most striking is that Presten was 16 when he was diagnosed with CML and was almost an adult when he was taken in by CPS. An autistic teenager who is almost an adult, having his voice inadvertently stifled by his mother and the MAHA movement that she corralled in the courts. That's not parental liberty (his adopted father and his grandmother saw the issue). That's medical neglect.


r/medicine 3d ago

Novartis announces pelacarsen (a drug targeting Lp(a)) failed to prevent events in clinical trial (gift article)

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Novartis just announced that their drug targeting Lp(a), pelacarsen, failed to reduce events in their clinical trial.

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/09/04/science/heart-drug-fails-novartis-pelacarsen.html?unlocked_article_code=1.-1A.vQzg.P4t-gwEnmq1Y&smid=nytcore-android-share

Obviously this is just the news release and the lay press interpretation, but the results seem pretty disappointing for any line of inquiry regarding Lp(a) being causative. It will be interesting to see the full results in November.

So where do we go from here? After optimizing LDL and then triglycerides, do we just accept that there is nothing else to do lipid-wise?


r/medicine 3d ago

How many times do you do a prescription extension before you refuse to refill when you haven’t seen the patient in >12 months?

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I have a patient who is requesting lithium refill,we have done three 3 month refills each time saying “Get scheduled please”. Coming up on 2 years since they have had any contact with healthcare other than going to do her labs and pressing the refill button. Lithium is potentially a matter of life or death but….just generally when do I just refuse prescription?


r/medicine 4d ago

Residency made me realize how incredibly self-absorbed some people are

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I've been reading residency posts lately, and since its been some time since my own training, I've been thinking about how much residency taught me about people...in a bad way. First, the residency system absolutely has problems. Residents are underpaid, overworked, burned out, and sometimes treated terribly and that needs to change. But two things can be true: the system can be broken, and you can still have a responsibility not to make your colleagues lives harder.

I watched people call out simply because they didn't want to work, knowing someone else would now lose a day off or take on extra work. And I always wondered, if you don't want to be there, why would the person covering you want to be?

Same with endlessly complaining about patient loads, missing holidays, weekends, weddings/trips/babyshowers Those things suck. I missed things too. But I entered residency knowing that for a few years there would be sacrifices. What bothered me was when someone's struggle became justification for transferring the burden onto everyone else.

And this may be controversial, but I sometimes noticed a similar dynamic around having children. Obviously, kids get sick. Emergencies happen. Childcare falls through. Those situations deserve understanding and flexibility. But there were also times when "I have kids" seemed to become an automatic trump card, where people without children were expected to be more available, cover more, or sacrifice their personal time because apparently their lives outside the hospital mattered less. Being childless doesn't mean someone's time is less valuable.

Then there's learned helplessness. These are highly educated adults, yet once someone became known as competent or resourceful, suddenly everyone asked them everything: "How do I do this?" "Where do I find this?" "Can you send me this?" There's a difference between collaboration and turning another person into your personal secretary. We have Google, AI, textbooks, guidelines, institutional resources, etc. At least try to figure something out before making it someone else's problem.

People's ego was fascinating. Residents acting superior to other residents, implying they were smarter or somehow above the program.Meanwhile, I sometimes wanted to say: we matched into the same program!!!! You aint at Harvard either buddy.

Then of course we have the cliques, gossip, entitlement, passive aggression, people expecting endless accommodations, and people wanting grace for themselves without extending any to anyone else. Sometimes I still wonder whether residency actually makes people worse, whether burnout temporarily brings out the worst in otherwise decent people, or whether extreme stress simply exposes traits that were already there.

To be fair, I met wonderful people too, but its the minority...like seriously maybe 2 people. And I'm certainly not claiming I was perfect, probably had my moments too.

But one lesson stuck with me, Your suffering doesn't automatically excuse selfishness. Being burned out doesn't mean nobody else's time matters. Being overwhelmed doesn't mean someone else should constantly rescue you. Having more responsibilities outside work doesn't make someone else's personal life less important. And being accomplished doesn't make you better than the people beside you.

Medicine talks constantly about empathy toward patients. I wish we talked more about basic consideration toward each other. Sometimes adulthood really comes down to asking

"How is what I'm doing going to affect somebody besides me?" Residency made me realize how many people don't ask themselves that nearly enough.

Also two words adults need to learn: Emotional Regulation.

Rant over.


r/medicine 4d ago

Insurance companies now stating Peer-to-Peer's are now "for educational purposes only" and if you want to an appeal a decision the PATIENT (not the doc) has to initiate and go through the formal appeals process themselves.

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Has anyone else experienced this? It's absolutely insane. As if peer to peer wasn't ridiculous enough now they are doing away with the system entirely and putting it on the PATIENT THEMSELVES to do the appeals. Yes, let's ask sick patients with low or no medical literacy to advocate for themselves to make sure we put as many barriers to getting proper care as possible (as if peer to peer wasn't ALREADY obstructive enough)

How do these insurance company execs sleep at night?


r/medicine 2d ago

How are you guys incorporating AI into patient care beyond charting / scribing?

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I work in primary care and the amount of paperwork has gotten insane. I am charting way past regular office hours. My husband is an attorney and has found Claude very helpful. I’m trying to figure out how to enlist more help with finishing up paperwork faster especially for prior authorizations, life insurance documentations, and medical records for some lawyer offices. We don’t do workers comp. However a few patients still request for records for injuries names in some lawsuits ie they fell at a grocery store. FWIW our EMR is eClinicalWorks, which is probably one of the least user friendly/ AI friendly. I’m currently using FreedAI and the scribing is about 70% accurate. I have to go back to edit stuff too.


r/medicine 4d ago

Some patients really can’t get the message that the appointment is over

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I’ve been a PA for 10 years now and I’m in a somewhat unique position where I can spend 30 min per pt.

You would think 30 minutes is sufficient but so often I cannot get the patient to realize the appointment is over.

“Alright thank you for coming in. You can check out at the front”

“That will be all. I’ll see you at the next appointment”

“Es todo. Gracias por venir”

The message just does not register with some patients.

Is there an ICD-10 code for being unaware of social cues?


r/medicine 5d ago

Banner PCPs Vote to Unionize

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Banner Health physicians just unionized!

After months of organizing, conversations, and a lot of uncertainty, Banner’s primary care physicians, NPs, and PAs in the Phoenix area voted to unionize.
The final vote was 149–66 in favor, with 215 votes cast out of 260 eligible voters.

Full Story Here

Banner is Arizona’s largest employer. Excited to see how this changes medicine.


r/medicine 5d ago

UnitedHealthcare to drop prior authorization requirements for range of conditions from Oct. 1

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Is the pendulum swinging in our favor?

https://www.reuters.com/legal/litigation/unitedhealthcare-drop-prior-authorization-requirements-range-conditions-oct-1-2026-09-01/

-The reduction spans a ​broad mix of services across multiple clinical specialties, ​including cardiology, genetic and laboratory testing, chiropractic care, ⁠physical, occupational and speech therapy, orthopedic and musculoskeletal procedures, ​among others.

-The prior authorization requirements are being eliminated across ​its commercial plans, Medicare Advantage for older adults and individual insurance under the Affordable Care Act, also known as Obamacare, and ​some other types of plans.

-Health insurers have been ​taking measures to simplify their requirements for prior authorization on medicines ‌and ⁠medical services after complaints from patients and doctors over excessive paperwork that can delay or even deny needed care.

-The actions are designed to reduce unnecessary paperwork, make ​information easier to ​understand and ⁠allow patients and care providers more time to focus on care, UnitedHealthcare said.

-The ​company is also reducing administrative requirements for ​eligible rural ⁠hospitals and affiliated providers through a rural prior authorization waiver program scheduled to begin on November 1.

-UnitedHealthcare is ⁠speeding ​payments by up to 50% for ​about 1,400 rural hospitals and Critical Access Hospitals in the third quarter.


r/medicine 5d ago

[The Legal Examiner] Antitrust Lawsuits Show Why Some Generic Drugs are so Expensive as Claims Deadline Nears

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"Generic drugs make up about 90% of all prescriptions filled in the U.S. because they’re supposed to be the cheap alternative to brand-name medications. But for a over a decade, some of the largest generic drug manufacturers allegedly worked together in secret to keep prices artificially high instead of competing for lower ones." "One state attorney general’s office said the alleged conspiracies to create an anticompetitive generics market caused consumers to pay more than 10 times as much for some medications."

Full Article: https://www.legalexaminer.com/lestaffer/legal/antitrust-lawsuits-show-why-some-generic-drugs-are-so-expensive-as-claims-deadline-nears/


r/medicine 5d ago

Texas Pharmacy refuses to fill Rx for Sched II ADHD meds, despite appropriate care and legal Rx sent

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I am MD, run my own FP clinic for 20+ years, first time on this issue for me. Basic issue is that a pharmacy told a patient they would not fill their Rx Adderall as they were not seen in person *by the MD/DO* on the Rx within the last year.

Big picture speaking, I understand the hesitation, since the online pill-mill shops are getting to be worse and worse. But this patient is in our (fairly strict, in my estimation) Controlled Substance prescription program, with a signed contract. We prescribe only 30 days at a time, we routinely check the PDMP at every fill, wait until at least 28 days have passed since last Rx before sending, check random UDS at least annually, and patient signs a contract that the rules must be followed or no refill. Patients are required to be seen monthly for new starts, then once stable, every 3 months in office. We do have a small Telemed program, so a few out of town students partake, but they are required to make an in-person appearance for any dose adjustment, or at least once per year.

This patient saw me (MD) first in office way back when we started her on this, about 2 years ago. This patient has followed our program, has been physically in the office every 3 months, but was seen by an NP.

She recently switched to a newer pharmacy, and they apparently asked if she specifically saw "the doctor on the Rx" in the last year, or someone else. She was not sure how long it had been, so the pharmacy called the office and asked our front desk to let them know if the patient was seen by me or someone else. Our staff confirmed she was in the program, had been seen appropriately and met all the contract criteria, and was seen by the NP for the last 3-4 visits or so.

So they refused to fill it.

I called the pharmacy, spoke to the one in charge at the moment, she indicated it was a "company policy," I could call them if I had a problem.

So I sent it to another one instead, patient is happy. (Also a bummer for me, it was HEB, and I generally love that company, lol)

I am still a bit perplexed, since as far as I can tell, her care was appropriate and perfectly legal. Can I legally instruct my staff to tell pharmacy staff to confirm a patient was given the correct Rx, is in our Controlled Substance program, but we are not allowed by our "company policy" to comment further on details? Or something to that effect?


r/medicine 5d ago

Maybe we should legally prevent third party providers billing patients' insurance?

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Hey, Americans, I have a question. (Everybody else, sorry, this is yet another discussion of the awful American health care system.)

The Governor of Massachusetts is soliciting opinions from the public about, among other topics:

Reducing Out-of-Network Costs: Developing new standards to protect patients and reduce excessive out-of-network health care costs.

There's a variety of scenarios where patients might need protecting from out-of-network costs, but one of the most egregious is when a patient presents for treatment at a providing institution such as a hospital or clinic that is represented to them (accurately) as being in-network, but then they find themselves treated by a provider in that institution who is not in-network for their insurance. This provider might not be one they have any say in treating them, and they might be sufficiently impaired by the presenting problem they have no opportunity to vet that the provider is in-network. For patients with no out-of-network benefit for their insurance, this can be economically catastrophic, because it means they are effectively uninsured for that provider's care.

I am entertaining submitting my own proposal to redress this, and before I hand it to the government, I'd appreciate your feedback. Please stress test my thoughts, below. I'd like to know if there's some way in which what I'd propose is bad for physicians or other medical professionals working in institutional settings, before I suggest it to my governor. Also I'm sure there are clues I am missing, which I would be appreciative to be offered.

My understanding of why this problem happens in the first place is that it arises unintentionally out of the staffing practices of medical institutions.

A hospital, for instance, might outsource its radiologists, such that the actual imaging is performed by techs who are hospital employees, but the read is performed by a radiologist who belongs to a wholly separate organization, and the patient gets two different bills from two different organizations (which is precisely how it works at the hospital I get my imaging at). Or a clinic might "hire" behavioral health professionals on a contract (1099) basis, who each are individually paneled with whatever insurances would take them; the patient might confirm that the psychotherapist they are seeing takes their insurance, but then when referred to a psychiatrist at the same clinic for med management, might discover the only psychiatrist with openings doesn't take their insurance.

So it seems to me, the problem here is that the institution is exposing the complexities of its staffing practices to the patients. A patient shouldn't need to know whether or not the person reading their MRI when they're febrile in an ICU is a W2 employee of the hospital. The patient should be able to trust that everyone involved in their care while they are in Local General Hospital will have the same coverage under their insurance as Local General Hospital. It should be enough that the patient checked that the hospital is in-network.

If a hospital or clinic wants to contract with a third party to provide some of the services it offers, that's fine, but I propose that from the patient's view point – and the view point of the patient's insurance – absolutely every medical service through that institution must be billed by that institution, not billed independently by the contractor.

Looked a from the perspective of contract law, the present situation, whereby a hospital can have some of the work on a patient case performed by a third party of their choice and that third party can bill the patient directly, is the hospital enjoying the power to unilaterally enter the patient into a contract for service with the third party. The hospital, not the patient, is the one who decides the image will be read by an independent radiologist, and the hospital, not the patient, decides which radiologist it will be, but it is the patient, not the hospital, then – with no meaningful consent and certainly not informed consent – who has legally contracted with the radiologist for the read and to pay for it.

It seems to me that this is absurd and should be illegal. It seems nonsensical that hospitals (in particular, but also other medical institutions) should have the authority to do that. If the hospital (or clinic or practice) wants to contract for services from third parties (whether institutional or individual professionals), that's their right, but then the hospital should be the party with the contractual obligation to pay the contractor. The hospital should be the party to bill the patient's insurance. It was, after all, the hospital that the patient chose to enter into a contract with. The patient should have nothing to do with and not be exposed to the hospital's staffing decisions and hiring practices. If the patient goes to the hospital, then all the care they get at the hospital should be billed by hospital, and it should be none of the patient's concern how the hospital chooses to staff itself. And the hospital certainly shouldn't have the legal authority to enter the patient into a legally binding contract with a third party, which is what the present legal situation amounts to.

Hospitals and other institutions could still outsource medical services under this regime. Nothing about forbidding hospitals to have third party providers billing independently prevents hospitals from contracting themselves with third parties. They can contract with third parties – but they have to pay them directly. They could even contractually make payment to the third party contingent on the institution being paid by the patient (or patient's insurance) to protect the institution from the additional financial risk of having to bill for the third-party's services and potential non-payment.

And I happen to know that it is legal to do this, at least here in Massachusetts, because in some clinical contexts, we already do: these are precisely the terms under which the vast majority of pre-independent-licensed psychotherapists work in Massachusetts. The entirety of my clinical career prior to my opening my private practice was exactly this: working for clinics who billed insurance for my services, even when I was a 1099 contractor; I have never been paneled, myself, with any insurance, ever. See, only independently licensed psychotherapists can bill insurance directly, and the way one becomes an independently licensed psychotherapist is by working as not an independently licensed psychotherapist; so there's a whole industry of outpatient mental health clinics employing junior therapists who can't yet bill insurance for themselves. These clinics hire pre-independent-license mental health professionals, often as 1099 contractors, and bill insurance for their services. Typically, these clinics have contracts with these therapists where the therapist's pay is a percentage cut of the moneys received for their services on a FFS basis. If the insurance doesn't pay the clinic, the contracting therapist doesn't get paid; if the insurance does pay the clinic, the therapist gets a cut after the check clears. This has the advantage for the therapist of not having to credential with the insurances or bill the insurances themselves. It has the advantage for the patient of not having to worry about whether the clinician takes different insurance (surprise!) from the clinic.

That said, I get the impression that perhaps it is the insurance companies, themselves, that prefer that third parties bill separately. I know that there are insurance companies that refuse to participate in the above scheme entirely. Blue Cross Blue Shield of Massachusetts, notoriously, will not contract (or would not, back when I worked for clinics) with mental health clinics (which bill for their pre-individual-licensed clinicians), only with individual clinicians. Do insurance companies require outsourced services be billed by the party to which it is outsourced in certain contexts? Do insurance companies make it hard or impossible for, say, hospitals to bill insurance for the services of an out-sourced radiology practice?

Note, I am not asking if hospitals or other medical institutions would find it disagreeable to have to bill for their contractors instead of leaving the contractors to bill independently. This arrangement I propose would put hospitals in the position of having to adopt the additional labor of billing for more services than they presently do, and it might expose them to interesting new legal liabilities where they adopt some greater legal exposure to malpractice or other wrongdoing committed by their contractees. I consider this a feature not a bug, because it would serve to discourage institutions from contracting out services. Given the problems we have been having with private equity acquiring hospitals, firing whole departments, and replacing them with contract companies, I think it would be a perfectly swell thing if there were some additional negative consequences for doing that.

In summary, it seems to me the solution to patients finding themselves on the hook for out-of-network medical expenses they did not consent to receiving from out-of-network providers when getting care from in-network institutions is to 1) make statute or regulation that forbids medical institutions to provide services which are billed by third parties and, if also necessary, 2) make statute or regulation that require insurances to pay medical institutions for the service their contractors render on their behalf. It doesn't seem to me that this would have a downside for physicians or other healthcare professionals, and might even have some secondary benefits insofar as it might do a bit to discourage one of the exploitive practices of venture capital.

Any problems with this that you can see? Anything I am missing?


r/medicine 6d ago

Choking Death at Nursing Home [⚠️ Med Mal Case]

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Case here: https://expertwitness.substack.com/p/choking-death-in-nursing-home

tl;dr

Elderly man in nursing home with dementia for many years.

He’s had some issues with swallowing, SLP changed his diet. Then later seemed to improve and his diet got advanced again after being tested with a PB&J sandwich as well as an egg salad sandwich.

Shortly thereafter he’s eating a pulled pork sandwich in his room when he starts coughing and gasping. CRNA (Edit: not CRNA, I meant CNA) calls nurse, who calls supervisor. He quickly worsens, they try to suction him with a Yankauer, try the Heimlich, try a finger sweep, but he codes.

EMS is called, transports him to ED where code continues. They ram a bougie through pieces of pulled port sandwich and get him intubated, but he dies.

Family sues, alleging that the SLP was negligent in not testing him with a meat sandwich (as opposed to PB&J and egg salad).

They also claim that the choking was mismanaged, that it was negligent to use a Yankauer to suction him bc it pushed the food down farther.

On one hand I can understand not wanting your loved one to asphyxiate, seems like a rough way to go. On the other hand, I think most people get so much enjoyment out of eating food that it seems cruel to ban elderly patients from eating what they want bc they might choke. And how was this guy still a full code???

Never thought I’d see a lawsuit related to PB&J 😩


r/medicine 5d ago

How do you handle colleagues that are constantly bragging?

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Hope this kind of question is allowed in this sub, but I felt like people here would understand my struggles better than non medical people - if not, please delete.

Basically, I have a friend that I have met during my hospital rotation during residency (I'm a family med doctor in Europe) that I've known for years now.

Back then, she was still a medical student and I was a resident. She was friendly then and was pretty eager to make friends, so we kept in contact even after her internship at my department.

Everything was fine back then, but recently - more precisely, since she now finally started residency herself - she has become INSUFFERABLE to me sometimes.

I'm now a family med attending and left the hospital last year. She is now in the same hospital I was in before, so whenever we meet up, the hospital and her residency is the main topic of conversation for her (which I totally understand, I know pretty much everyone there so I know who she's talking about and also because I know how difficult starting out is).

But what I can't stand is how everytime we meet up, about 20 percent of the conversation is dominated by her bragging - one time it was about how at her final graduation exam, she was offered a residency spot at her uni at the spot; the other time, it was about how everyone almost cried when she left the last department she interned 3 months at.

Then another time, an intern was just in awe about how amazingly deep her knowledge was. How the recruiter for the hospital wasn't actually allowed to give her her spot, but because she was just so amazing in her rotations and because she's so likeable he just had to give her her spot. Or how now the chief of surgery wants to talk to her and offer her her spot, because she's done so amazingly well. And how the attendings have recently told her that she's the only resident who's name they ever remembered.

There's much more, but you get the gist.

At the beginning, I used to be genuinely happy for her, and encourage her. But now, I feel like every time I listen to her stories about how amazing she is, I'm just annoyed.

Maybe it's because I was raised in a culture where bragging about oneself is frowned upon, or maybe I'm unhappy about my own situation?

Even though I make incredible money now as an attending (more then 3 times of her salary, probably) while working part time (work life balance is amazing), I still can't help but feel inadequate when she talks like this.

Even though I know I received and still receive constant praise from attendings, nurses and patients, it somehow makes me feel bad when she's always talking about how great everyone thinks she is. In contrast to her, I rarely ever share the compliments other people give me with the exception of my partner, because I had noticed that people were rarely happy for me when I mentioned my achievement, so I stopped.

I really want to be a good friend to her and be happy for her, and maybe I just need to work on myself more - but what would you do in this kind of situation? I want to talk to her about it, but feel like I'm being a bad friend that can't be happy for her.


r/medicine 5d ago

Mixed cells in DLC

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So in routine practice, differential leucocyte count is done via cell counters. N most clinics have 3-part counters. Means they can measure granulocytes, lymphocytes n mixed cells. Mixed cells are basically monocyte+basophil+eosinophil. Abbreviation is mid/mxd. Now how is the report given in your area of practice when 3-part analyser is used ? Any clinician pls respond. Also can any pathologist or lab physician or hematologist here enlighten me what are the guidelines for reporting dlc from 3-part analysers? N what is the common practice in your experience.

Lab technicians in my area are assuming basophil as 0 n then say if mid cells are 5%, they are writing eosinophils 3, monocytes 2 based on their mood. When I confronted them, they say that is what their seniors taught them. So I wanted to see how things r working in rest of the world n what are standard guidelines. I work in a relatively remote n low resource center of India with junior lab techs.


r/medicine 6d ago

What do patients not understand about medicine that makes them distrust specific physicians?

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I'm aware that there are many bad physicians out there, but I'm curious what makes patients who are reasonably health-literate feel like their physician was bad even when they are receiving good care -- or whatever the most tactful way is to say, I'm not talking about people who come in with medically unreasonable requests who are less than open-minded.

Essentially -- what are some reasons patients feel they weren't listened to, or that doctors didn't take their symptoms seriously and missed a diagnosis, etc, that are not related to poor medical practice?

edit: seems like a good amount of this might be from the fact that not all diagnoses are easy to make right away. Ie, patients with rarer conditions might not immediately be diagnosed, not due to incompetence but because it was just less likely and it's not reasonable to test everyone with symptoms. Even if it's on the differential

edit 2: another thing I just read -- "none of the doctors I saw could figure it out" could be because every doctor will start with more common possibilities (or maybe insurance requires it before other tests), so if you're getting 10 different opinions you're not really getting the chance to be fully evaluated?

edit 3: I don't think I phrased it well, but to clarify I'm more thinking about scenarios where patients feel like doctors were incompetent despite receiving standard care, which is not something patients would be aware of. Which is why I am asking here.


r/medicine 6d ago

APCM/CCM by other specialties

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Primary care physician here. Recently discovered that one of my patients is being billed for Chronic Care Management by their urologist. She says some woman calls her a few times a month but she doesn’t know what it’s about. She said that she did raise one medical concern but the woman referred her to her PCP.

Then I found out that another patient, on a visit to her podiatrist, was told about a program they were offering that would “cost you nothing”. They sat her in front of a tablet and she had a 5 minute conversation with a nurse practitioner who was—somewhere. Then they billed her for Advanced Primary Care Management (APCM).

Both Medicare beneficiaries, both elderly.

Not only do these situations seem sketchy at best and maybe fraudulent, they prevent me, who I think is a more appropriate provider of these services, from charging for them. I’m doing the work and they are getting paid! In both these cases the practice is part of large, multi-state group.

Has anyone else run across this?


r/medicine 7d ago

Tips on how to be firm in not caving in to unwarranted treatments/demands?

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This applies more so with patient asking for opiates for chronic pain (frequent flyer for recurrent abdominal pain usually). I usually can get past the first hurdle:

Patient: i want dilaudid

Me no, your condition does not warrant opiates and in fact can get worse with opiates. You can try XYZ instead

A few hrs later nursing will call me saying pt tried XYZ and still in 10/10 pain and asking for dilaudid. Sometimes patients will even say "I'm allergic or have a bad reaction to XYZ so I can't take the other meds." They sometimes make the RN put those non-opiates in the allergy list just so it wont even be offered.

What do I do when this happens? Pain is subjective so it's not like I have an objective measure if they're indeed at 10/10. I've heard that some pts can have 10/10 pain even if they aren't actively writhing or grimacing. At this point I usually just cave and give something although I'm pretty sure I'm just getting played.

tips?